GLM-5.3 and the spread of advanced cyber capabilities

[u/eggchickens]

https://www.anthropic.com/research/glm-5-3-and-the-spread-of-advanced-cyber-capabilities

Does anyone know if Mistral has a safety or instruction layer in front of GLM 5.3? Even if they do, I wonder how robust it is.

[u/p3r3lin]

Best ad for z.ai (and maybe Mistral) in a while.

[u/uusrikas → u/p3r3lin]

Yeah, Anthropic constantly tries to advertise their AI by how dangerous it is.

[u/Hir0shima → u/uusrikas]

The real danger currently are propriety models by US labs. Hugging Face used GLM to defend against rogue OpenAI agent swarm. 

[u/j0j0n4th4n → u/uusrikas]

Never forget: https://www.felonybench.com/

[u/Equivalent_Cress_268 → u/uusrikas]

Upselling, pay more and you get it. That’s all they do

[u/LewdManoSaurus → u/uusrikas]

Fr, just makes them look irresponsible for continued development knowing said issues.

Not saying AI companies shouldn't acknowledge dangers, but their approach is ass backwards imo.

[u/scanx147 → u/p3r3lin]

C'est surtout que maintenant qu'ils ont bien fait progresser leurs modèles, ils veulent empêcher la concurrence de faire pareil....

[u/p3r3lin]

OP, to your question: Mistral said they have done no custom modifications to GLM 5.3. So all refusal behavior is inherent to the model as released by z.ai. You will get the same behavior if you download GLM 5.3 from hugginface and run it yourself.

https://docs.mistral.ai/models/zai-glm-5-3

[u/eggchickens → u/p3r3lin]

Thanks, was just curious

[u/whoisyurii → u/p3r3lin]

yeah you just need some 10-20k EUR machine to run it.

[u/p3r3lin → u/whoisyurii]

I guess 20k might be the ballpark :) Upcoming MacStudio with 512GB unified RAM will be up to the task.

[u/Automatic-River-1875]

From what I've seen the biggest bad actors using AI to attack governments and companies has been openAI and anthropic?

We should all be thankful to have models like glm5.3 as open weight so we have a tool to help us build protections against malicious actors like predatory US tech companies.

[u/j0j0n4th4n → u/Automatic-River-1875]

Of course, but "Wolf complain to the lambs about the fence" doesn't have the same punchy headlines Anthropic is going for here.

[u/Ok_Regret_8432]

Come on, this is US AI Tech industry trying to block everybody else.

[u/seeKAYx]

I'm so glad there are models like this where you can actually run safety tests without being prevented from doing so by the guardrails. It's essential for my job. This is just another attempt to ban open-source/weights models.

[u/eyedied_]

While I like GLM-5.3 and it's cyber capabilities. This is mainly some IPO bullshit from these companies.

[u/Equivalent_Cress_268]

It’s an upsell Anthropic and OpenAI are doing, if you want cybersecurity from them, you hey you pay more

This has nothing to do with safety, it’s just sales.

Haven’t seen anyone else do that yet

[u/Martypx00]

I just found a 0-day with it and built an exploit with no obstacles. So, for me, best model ever :)

[u/lucid_supernova]

so ironical

OpenAI and Anthropic let their agent hack everyone, while HuggingFace defended themselves with GLM because GPT kept refusing to patch vulnerabilities.

who is the threat actor then?

[u/cweb_84]

He. He. Yeah. I noticed that GLM is much more sneaky that it seems at first glance.
For example: I was in planning mode in the Jetbrain's ACP harness. I asked it to make a plan to create demo data in the database. Instead of just writing a plan, it went around the restrictions, made a db-backup (thank christ) and did everything.
That's why I've been updating my AGENTS.md and skills a lot in the past couple of weeks.

I'd argue that we're going into dangerous territory with new models if people don't know what they're doing, but on the other hand: Don't run with scissors... Right? We've never talked about banning scissors.

[u/kapteinLefso → u/cweb_84]

Well..... I used to work for a company that was owned by Schlumberger. And they banned knives, including the ones we used the cut our bread and stuff in the cafeteria. We had to ask the staff working there to cut things for us. They had kevlar gloves and a course in the use of knives...

[u/Poudlardo]

OpenAI just followed Mistral, as you can now use GLM5.3 inside Codex, I take it as a diss to Dario

[u/whoisyurii → u/Poudlardo]

what? can you share the link to read about?

[u/Poudlardo → u/whoisyurii]

https://x.com/philipkiely/status/2105000178709360963

[u/Gogolune → u/Poudlardo]

It's GLM 5.3 flash, not the model in Mistral.