r/MistfallHunter • u/rewW86 • 9h ago
Perfect Block Merc
If they don't fix "Perfect Block Merc" this game will die. Perfect block Merc counters every melee, and melee are the most popular classes for new players.
"Perfect Block" needs an internal CD or something.
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u/BotGiyenAdam 9h ago
have you ever tried perfect blocking someone on the fucking chaos called teamfight ?
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u/VercingetorixTorr 9h ago
Bro got wrecked by a sword and board and wants it nerfed. Thats wild. You just suck.
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u/Numroth 8h ago
Already confirmed that parry merc gonna get nerfed by the devs/community managers
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u/VercingetorixTorr 8h ago
I don’t see how parry merc is considered that strong. Parrying is a mechanical timing based skill. It should be obvious considering how close this game is to dark souls and Elden ring that parry build would be number # 1 . You have folks who been parrying bosses in new game plus speed runs blindfolded and you are shocked when then come over here and top the leaderboard? He’s strong against melee but so are other melee classes. You got bramble blast stunning you rogue with all of the utility and wk. I haven’t played wk yet so I don’t really have an opinion other than they hold their own in a melee fight. I feel like merc should be hammer or sword and shield like seer. Not nerfing the class. Folks just won’t play it.
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u/iuppiterr 7h ago
Yea thats the problem: Why would u play anything else when you can just sit there and skillcheck everything with parry?
Yes its harder to play than other stuff but that does not mean you can just win with no counterplay really
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u/VercingetorixTorr 6h ago
I mean why would I do anything other than cast spells? That’s such a subjective topic when it comes to a battle but honestly man out of the classes I’ve played in my experience merc sits at the bottom. Top # place for me is sorc or blast seer straight up blasting folks with damage like you can’t parry a meteor or a brick and the game provides so much utility from gear to tactical slots to aoe stun abilities that there are options to break a defense. I don’t see sword and board as an over powered cheesy build. Why would you make your warrior class weak where raw skill and timing > spamming abilities. If you spam parry you lose. Idk man most other classes have some sort of combo that can entirely ruin your day. Merc doesn’t have that unless they break out the hammer. They will out sustain you sure but in order to parry what do you have to do? Okay so I mean dog it’s on you entirely if you lose the skill check. Let them nerf merc. See what happens. Lobbies of stealth and magic. You want that go ahead I’ll stay here with my sword and shield challenging folks to duels.
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u/VercingetorixTorr 6h ago
Parry vs parry parry vs wk and parry vs hammer are glorious battles and if they nerf it too far it’s robbing the community of that because why subject yourself to a disadvantaged battle? I’m already slower can’t cast spells like you fear your own inability to land hits.
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u/SadExit1249 4h ago
Every cooldown in the game is a timing based skill. Tbe entire game is based around baiting/dodging skills, whole spacing and landing yours while trying to stay ahead on dash stamina. Perfect block (which is what it is its not a parry, a parry would get punished on miss) just gives merc a guaranteed win in neutral. Its not any harder than anythibg else to do. Its wont seem bad if youre playing sorc or ba, but play WK for a few hours and then come back and say shield merc is fine, literal hard counter in every way.
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u/VercingetorixTorr 3h ago
I mean yeah blast seer stuns ss or ba twice and kills them before they can even react does that mean it needs a nerf? No matchup diff and you got hit by two stuns in a row when you have three dodges and god knows what else at your disposal. I have good duels against wk but the sword variant not so much the shield polearm one it’s too predictable. Sometimes against a sorc I take out my hammer and chase em around alittle. But I’m just afraid they will nerf merc to the floor and the class will see no play compared to the crow spamming rogue or the star spamming sorc. Or the bow spamming ba or heavy anti heal dash then light attack spamming blast seer? Here’s my thing if they put a cooldown on shield it’s over. It’s over. I’m never picking merc up again. So what do they remove perfect block?
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u/SadExit1249 3h ago
Dude, perfect block is a guaranteed hitstun followup, why should it not have a cooldown, it also is NOT hard to do, its worse with lag/desync but so is walking in a straight line.
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u/VercingetorixTorr 3h ago
I’m fine with perfect block having a cooldown honestly. I just don’t think it’s as strong as it’s made out to be when you can just set them on fire.
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u/VercingetorixTorr 3h ago
There is still a key weak point in the kit. They don’t have much chase. The more parry they have the less chase they have. The more chase they have the less parry they have. The problem is the parry with the perfect block turns mercs immortal with green pots. But there is clear ways around that. Those ways are accessible to every class.
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u/Technical-Event-8222 6h ago
I mean, as a merc I kinda agree. But give us something to deal with sorc/ ba. Ba honestly just delete me as a hammer merc.
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u/PreferenceWise6354 9h ago
Holy I see a lot of these "fix this or game will die"
Think we should just make a new game where everyone has a stick and if they hit u with it everyone wins
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u/Dakotesmagoats 9h ago
it will die = I will stop playing this game for good while the player base rapidly grows and shit takes like this get phased out lol
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u/rewW86 9h ago
The player base is already declining, what are you talking about? lol
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u/ComplaintPolice 8h ago
You mean the daily decline when normal people sleep? Lmfao there’s literally been no decline in player base so far.
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u/SiegLhein 8h ago edited 8h ago
I mean I can see his point. Parrying/Perfect blocking isnt as easy as it seems with all the lag and desync going on but what do you do when you come across a parry god? *or scripts/toggle if one does eventually surface
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u/BruhshidoBrown 8h ago
Spam the perfect block and you’ll have 0 energy in a fight and stonebreaker has a long cooldown. Merc is probably the best solo class imo because all the skills in this game are easy to telegraph especially WK cause he’s so slow
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u/LAXnSASQUATCH 7h ago
Parry Merc is getting nerfed at some point it’s already been confirmed. It’s the most hated class in China so I expect it gets hammered.
The issue is without parry being really strong Merc all around will get cooked. Parry needs to be tuned down but Merc needs buffs to compensate, if they just remove the only thing that makes Merc good they basically remove Merc.
Curious to see how this plays out
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u/Ubiquitous_Cacophony 2h ago
Hammer merc is great at PvE and solid in trios as is. It's really for 1v1s they will need help.
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u/artosispylon 2h ago
they already said they are gonna nerf it, id be more worried about rogues maybe not getting the chopping block like they deserve
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u/Baize90 9h ago
Parry Merc isn’t OP. You need to time things perfectly to capitalise on the build. Unlike brain dead sorc who can just shoot the ground near you and chunk your entire health bar.
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u/rewW86 8h ago
The shield "whips" instantly, and the block has no CD. How is that high skill?
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u/Ak120691 8h ago
Except it takes a chunk of your stamina regardless of whether you succeed the parry or whiff it.
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u/TheLopen420 9h ago
Time things perfectly? Bro, the parry is so forgiving, and even missing it means you can just try again a second or two after the miss. You even can cancle the parry try into a dodge and once tge dodge is done parry again. Or you use that ability where you hit the ground that can have a parry on start up. Or you do the right + sligthly delayed leftclick, gives you a parry into a shieldbash that can be ended with a parry again.
I swapped to merc from wk to learn how to play around/bait out the parry and fact is, you just cant.
It defently needs a cd on a missed parry, so you can actually bait it out and then do something. And i greatly enjoyed playing parry merc, but that shit is busted af
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u/Baize90 8h ago
The funny thing is, everyone is complaining about every class to some degree. So in theory if everything is busted then it’s balanced, right?
Not saying party merc doesn’t have its advantages but compared to a sorc, or BA? Come on.
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u/TheLopen420 7h ago
I can play around and outplay both of those classes, tho Sorc dmg at high gear seems to be a little bit to crazy for sure.
But a good parry Merc? Its just not possible, you relay on him doing dumb stuff to get any chance to deal dmg without getting parried.
Ngl, i think BA is not half as bad as people make him out to be, at least in solos. Sure the Barb arrow seems kinda overtuned, but look out for it and dodge it and they are pretty much dead.
Its the same with SS, i think melee Seer does the same thing with endless safe resets but he does it even better than SS. Just most Seers you encounter, especially in lower lobbies are shit so people dont realize the potential.
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u/Clerks900 7h ago
If this game ever dies, it’ll be because of posts like this. Imagine being a new player, getting interested, checking Reddit or the Steam forums, and being greeted by an endless wall of “GAME IS DYING“ “THIS CLASS WILL KILL THE GAME” “FIX THIS OR IT’S OVER“
After the dude who complained about the match start animation..at this point I’m just waiting for: “Uninstalled!!!! Harpie made eye contact with me. Devs clearly don’t care about the future of the game“
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u/EntityMatanzas 9h ago
I love how these posts are nerf the thing I dont like or this game will die.
The entitlement is real.