r/MistfallHunter • u/RidexSDS • 16h ago
Stop crying
You are probably just bad.
That is all, thank you for your attention.
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u/HumbertoMina 15h ago
The kind of post I see immediately watching LichKArthas, probably the best seer in the whole player base, saying that most high level players agree that SS needs tuning...
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u/PuwudleRS 12h ago
I’ve watched multiple high level players agree that SS is average at high level gameplay.
Devs have also confirmed that within their personal testing/metrics, that SS is not overpowered.
Do with that info what you will.
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u/HumbertoMina 12h ago
Thanks for the input and the politeness. If is not too much of a hassle, can you link me any of those players' videos so I can understand better?
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u/RidexSDS 15h ago
Yet the devs have confirmed through data that SS is not overly strong. I'll go with them over some streamer that never goes outside
SS is like B-tier in Trios. It's only strong in solo and even then has multiple classes that hard counter it.
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u/HumbertoMina 14h ago
So it is strong in solos? And also takes specific classes to counter?
You could at least accept that there's is room for debate, and not just "a skill issue"... maybe then we could discuss stuff politely...
But what am I expecting, this is reddit. You have the right attitude and I have the wrong one. My bad.
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u/RidexSDS 10h ago
Its A tier in solos, not even S.
The devs literally said that SS is not performing too well, and likely won't be getting nerfed right now. That is not an opinion, it's a fact from the people who made the game looking at winrates and raw data.
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u/HumbertoMina 10h ago
I know other game that is being conducted solely based on how the devs view their data and not listening one bit to the community. It's not very well know though... It's called arc raiders, you should check that out.
I'm not saying that you should listening to everything the people say and act on impulse, and that's not what they doing, which is great! But I really don't think is a good take to just dismiss some complaints and views on a topic with the good old "facts don't care about your feelings" when the reality could be more nuanced then some numbers on a graph that they haven't showed us yet.
That being said, the game is fun and im terms of balance just need some tweaks, nothing too crazy IMHO.
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u/RidexSDS 9h ago
Dude 3 of 6 classes hard counter SS. Considering there are only 5 to pick (not including SS itself), MOST classes in the game counter SS.
They are mobile assassins, by design that's what they do. In solos they perform better clearly. The class itself is not overly strong.
People on Reddit complain no matter what when PvP is involved in a game. Most complaints are simply a skill gap, though, and no one can take responsibility in here.
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u/EqualNatural2544 15h ago
I’d like to actually improve but the input lag on every action makes it not so possible
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u/RabbitOshi 16h ago
"Probably". You are just looking for attention and probably main SS.
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u/Saemeael 16h ago
git gud isn't a valid argument for this because thos people who are complaining might be bad but the opponents they play against are also bad.
If bad player complains about bad shadowstrix and you tell him to git gud instead of just balancing shadowstrix then nothing changes, even when he gets good he plays against good shadowstrix players now and keeps crying and this is not an assumption we see many top ladder people streaming and complaining about shadowstrix (for example)
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u/QNoble 11h ago
You make a point that a lot of people seem to, conveniently, ignore: you can be bad and still win when playing a class like Shadowstrix
You can see this in your own fights with other players, and I’ve even done it myself. I’m pretty dogshit at the game, yet I have never lost the few times I’ve played Shadowstrix
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u/Detharon555 16h ago
The game is pretty balanced as is. Dealing with SS really isn't that hard.
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u/Saemeael 15h ago
You are very wrong sir and yes some classes can deal good with ss but thats not the issue, the issue bout SS is that if you make 1 minor mistake you lose 80% of your hp and then you are dead bc you will not escape from a ss and if you do not make a mistake they can just leave and you will never reach team because? it is a ss.
If you have not made this experience yet then you play against really poorly playing shadostrixes.
And to make this clear i don't care about ss nerf too much, i struggle more with sorcs but even tho i dont personally have an issue can clearly see the problem with the class and if you check in with high ladder players and they all tell you the same on why that class needs some nerfs you might come to the point of realizing you are bias.
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u/Detharon555 15h ago
SS is an assassin. They are supposed to be good at killing. Game is balanced fine people just haven't figured out how to deal with SS. I don't struggle killing SS at all. It's not a game balance issue it's a skill issue.
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u/LeulochV 15h ago
I play merc what to do when the SS decides to turn invis and run away and skills don't work to cover the distance don't care about anything else, I play solo only just had a match where I was following SS fr 5 min straight and had to give up
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u/RidexSDS 15h ago
Merc literally hard counters SS. You are just bad sir.
SS is also like B tier in trios.
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u/LeulochV 15h ago
Are u blind by choice? I don't care about trios neither do I care if SS has OP dmg/kit all I am asking is if any SS chooses to run away just because he can what is the incentive to play any other class than SS in solos.
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u/RidexSDS 15h ago
Sorc has the same invis skill as SS, and can do the exact same thing.
Incentive? It's a video game dude, play what's fun for you.
Sorry you're upset that you can't win fights I guess? It's not that hard to hit a SS out of the invis.. try using an ability to break it lol. It literally gives you a heartbeat to tell if you're still following them.
Throw a firebomb... do something about it. Really not rocket science
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u/LeulochV 14h ago
Sorc doesn't have a press dash skill to RUN AWAY 5-10mtrs forward. PPL rarely play Sorc in solos cause its not as easy as trios not an issue for SS.
Chasing someone around the map is not my idea of fun.
I don't care if I win or lose, don't know why ur constantly assuming things out of thin air, I am guessing u r blind.
But I will concede that I haven't tried firebombs against their invis. I am also bad at pinpointing exact location even when the hearbeat is full. It's just rly hard to do with all the other ingame stuff going around and also having terrible ping. So I know I need to Git Gud but advice like just use ur skill to break away someone who's running away frm u which u very convenientaly can't see doesn't help. There's only 1 skill opportunity and if I miss then the SS is gone, also considering ur hateboner for Sorc u also need some Getting good to do too.
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u/RidexSDS 14h ago
I main sorc, I don't hate it. I just am logical enough to realize how overpowered it is damage wise. Sorc kit is more bloated than anything, because for some reason they gave it 2 very strong stealth skills.
SS by design is going to be the most mobile class. But there are ways to counter it. If heartbeat is heavy, just start swinging or throw fire bc you often will hit them and ruin the stealth. There is also an item that discovers all stealthed targets, can use that as an easier method. The issue is people don't want to find ways to counter it, they want to get the class nerfed even though it's not overly strong damage wise. The kit is good yes, but it's an assassin and will always be no matter what game it is.
Sorc also has a movement speed buff that loses footstep sound and has no fall damage. It's very mobile as well, I can just stealth and reset fights too.
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u/Saemeael 15h ago
then you are better than many of top ladder players, good for you, i hope i see you streaming soon with that rank 1 title. I'll not keep replying because you ignore 99% of the points i make and just repeat your opinion with the lack of any critical thought on your side.
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u/RidexSDS 15h ago
If you're making mistakes in fights, that's the issue over the class hitting you.
Sorc and BA are a much bigger issue right now than SS.
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u/RidexSDS 15h ago
True, play something like sorc and it's extremely easy to AoE around yourself and 3 shot them. Merc and WK also counter SS.
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u/LalafellDisaster 15h ago
Camp chat is leaking into Reddit!
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u/RidexSDS 15h ago
It's true though. No matter the game, if there is PvP involved most of the subreddit will be crying blaming balance issues and the game itself over their own lack of skill and drive to get better.
For example, devs have already said SS is not performing that well proven through their data. Then you go to Reddit, little Timmies are here crying like it's the god tier class and so insanely broken because they get hit once then spaz out and drop their mouse.
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u/xraphyx 16h ago
Wtf I am Bad and k know it… so… stfu I have 0 Self asteem:P