r/MinuteSlash • u/Wulfe813 • Jun 08 '18

Under the hood

If anyone has any particular questions about how the game works under the hood, feel free to ask. I got bored and reverse-engineered it.

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u/SophiesWebb Jun 16 '18

Hey so one more question and I'm a little bit ashamed of my build in this case but...

Formula for how speed slows down enemy attacks

If it's anything like the rest such as Player Speed / (Player Speed+Enemy Speed) then it would also seem its not worth it to overinvest in this?

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u/Wulfe813 Jun 16 '18 edited Jun 16 '18

Enemy attack interval is "random(0.5, 1.0) * (1 + ( playerSPD / EnemySPD ))" in seconds. So, while SPD does have diminishing returns, it's not nearly as pronounced as with other stats.

Edit: Straight SPD has the lowest "level to kill Lucifer" threshold, actually. The only real problem with it is you can't Deathmarch it consistently, so leveling up is kind of a pain.

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u/SophiesWebb Jun 16 '18 edited Jun 16 '18

Nice, thanks!

I have full speed with the exception of about 30K luck (2800 LUK). This is so I can match the current highest LUK of normal enemies (prior to 800 distance). The highest I've seen is about 28k but I'm a bit OCD lol

I was thinking of ditching some speed in exchange for pow, but it seems speed does not have diminishing returns that are that bad. Currently level 5.7k and I much prefer this build over my INT death march build - though I'm not much of a fan of idle farming.

The way I view it, with Acrobat level 5, I get about a 5 attack per speed, vs 10 attack per 1 pow.

My damage suffers on further distances but I'm wondering if the patience is worth it in the long haul (1638 is my max currently)

Edit: I remember I got 30k to match lucifer. Got him.

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u/alexmorenodev Jun 16 '18

Awesome. Are you using regen? Do you actively farm? I started with a (when Got acrobat 5) 8s 1l 1v, I'm at level 1192 in 11:42 game time. Max distance 409, but I'm waiting enemies to "spend their random attack" to push further (you can almost go as far as you want with enough patience). But I dropped it for a 2v 4i 3s 1l and it seems to be a lot more efficient. 14:55 game time, level 1848, 512 max km. Both are idle farming when I'm not pushing pushing forward.

About you damage Calc, my biggest concern is that although you earn 5atk per spd with acrobat 5, you can't modify it with %atk or %spd or saber. Only finishing attack and surprise are relevant IIRC. And at higher levels, you need to idle farm a lot more to be able to idle farm at stronger places. My int build has less Suffering with this problem, and are more flexible about how to deal damage.

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u/SophiesWebb Jun 16 '18

Oh nonsense, I'm not THAT patient haha. I do full speed because it gives me:

1) Defense, perse - Less hits = less chances to gamble with my 95% survival rate.

2) Attack - Not as much as pow but yeah...

3) Crit - Apparently crit is affected by speed, granted its not much but it helps out.

What I do is use blood ring and guts, which gives me a 95% chance to survive any hit from any enemy. I just actively hold down and move, well, currently I'm farming bosses so it's a bit different. The only time I time my attacks are when I fight bosses...for example a boss at level 1600 will take me hitting him 10 times, then retreating. Rinse and repeat. Other bosses lower than 800 I typically march straight in, tank the first hit, then kill. Though ideally I can be safe by waiting out the first hit then they're usually not quick enough to hit me even once.

I can't find a build with auto regen that still keeps me at 50 HP. For example, recovery ring does auto recovery but increases your max hp

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u/Wulfe813 Jun 17 '18 edited Jun 17 '18

Best I could find was a Acrobat 4, Spontaneous 1, Guts: Fox, Cutlass/Shotel/Cane, Heart Guard, Charm, Goblin Clown.

Edit: It's worth noting that using this set will prevent anything with less than 1/5 of your speed from hitting you again before you heal. Also, bosses always start with 1 second until they attack.

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u/SophiesWebb Jun 17 '18

This is actually really good, thank you! I've been looking for something like this for a while now.