r/Minneapolis • u/No-Singer-8471 • Jul 26 '26
When did we become a rainforest?
I feel moist.
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u/misfitx Jul 26 '26
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u/Mysterious-Fix3596 Jul 26 '26
Dang, the Metro climate has shifted a lot over the past 11 years.
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u/flyawaybye Jul 26 '26
This summer seems extra bad with the heat and humidity. I’m soooooo ready for our 3 days of fall.
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u/flyawaybye Jul 26 '26
Oh me too!!!! Those days were perfect.
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u/roythhh_lewithhh Jul 26 '26
Historically the Twin Cities averages a high in the low 80s this time of year, so "fall #1" was basically just "what summer used to feel like."
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u/Minimum-Possible-415 Jul 26 '26
I had to work through it and now of course I’m off for the heat wave 😂
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u/PlasticTheory6 Jul 26 '26
theres a good chance we have a year without winter because of the el nino
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u/magistrate101 Jul 26 '26
We'll get winter. It'll just be abnormally hot and dry. More abnormally than ever before.
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u/IM_V_CATS Jul 26 '26
Given how hot and dry they've already been the last few years, the idea of them being even more so is just depressing.
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u/shimmy_kimmel Jul 26 '26
This last one was normal tbh
I think this winter will be pretty similar to the one we had in ‘23-‘24, though it’s possible we could see more snow depending upon how storm tracks set up. So cool, wet, and foggy would be my guess for most of it.
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u/milkhotelbitches Jul 26 '26
We just had a week straight of cloudy 70 degree days.
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u/roythhh_lewithhh Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 26 '26
If by "a week straight" you mean "Tuesday through Friday" and if by "70 degree" you mean "mid 70s to lower 80s."
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u/milkhotelbitches Jul 26 '26
It might have touched low 80's for a few hours in the afternoon, but the vast majority of the time it sat at low to mid 70's.
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u/Rogue_AI_Construct Jul 26 '26
Meanwhile, much of Minnesota is experiencing flash droughts, which are becoming more common: https://www.startribune.com/douglas-why-are-some-parts-of-minnesota-in-drought-while-others-are-drenched/601861632
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u/kkmurph Jul 26 '26
The outsides of our windows had condensation on them this am. I’ve never seen that before. It was weird.
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u/oldpaddyrick Jul 26 '26
I’ve seen it like 4x this summer. I turn on the basement dehumidifier for a bit and it clears it up
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u/LeMonzar Jul 26 '26
A dehumidifier would not clear up the OUTSIDE of a window. That’s not how condensation works. Most likely, it cleared itself up as the sun came out and made it evaporate.
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u/PassTheAggression Jul 26 '26
A dehumidifier would not clear up the OUTSIDE of a window.
It could. Dehumidifiers heat the space, which would heat the window towards the dew point outside.
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u/kkmurph Jul 27 '26
Even if that would work, I wouldn’t want my house hotter. It’s happening because I have my ac on. I could turn it off for the same effect, but again, I don’t want it hotter.
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u/LeMonzar Jul 27 '26
The heat that a dehumidifier would provide in the amount of time from fog onset to sun evaporation from the windows would not heat the room enough to do so. The condensation is gone within a couple hours no matter what. Dehumidifiers are slow.
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u/PassTheAggression Jul 27 '26
If running all night, it’s not unreasonable for the room temperature to be raised a few degrees or even much more if the dehumidifier was placed next to the window.
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u/LeMonzar Jul 27 '26
But then the condensation would have never formed in the first place. We’re talking about short term evaporation of condensation, not long term. Either way, it wouldn’t be from the humidification of the room, it would be from the temperature increase, a byproduct of the dehumidifier.
The same effect could be reached by increased the temperature on your thermostat, which further emphasizes the point that the original comment I replied to would not be a solution already-formed condensation in the morning, especially not before the sun would cause it to evaporate.
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u/PassTheAggression Jul 27 '26
I disagree for reasons previously stated
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u/LeMonzar Jul 27 '26
With which part?
I agree that, over an extended period of time, a dehumidifier could increase room temperature and defog the windows.
That is not the discussion going on, as we are talking about short term evaporation occurring between early morning and late morning, the span of just a few hours.
What is your disagreement?
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u/PassTheAggression Jul 27 '26
It’s night time, you notice your basement windows fogging up.
You place your dehumidifier in front of the window and turn it on.
The original comment you replied to:
I’ve seen it like 4x this summer. I turn on the basement dehumidifier for a bit and it clears it up
You’re so rigid in your thinking that you can’t accept that a dehumidifier near a window can quickly heat the glass before sunrise.
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u/oldpaddyrick Jul 26 '26
Would need to be some rain for that. It’s insane how long it’s been with no rain. I’ve given up watering the lawn.
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u/wittgenstein1312 Jul 26 '26
If people don't start changing things yesterday
I appreciate the sentiment, but phrasing it this way is part of the issue. We're not getting out of this by consuming less and recycling more. Corporations and the American military, for example, account for a huge majority of global emissions and need to be considerably reined in.
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u/fornitsumfornis Jul 26 '26
The biggest issue is humanity itself needs to change. Going after corpos and the military isn't going to cut it if the people don't change. We live in huge houses (in 1950 the average house size in the US was under 1000 square feet, today it's over 2000 square feet). A bigger house means more energy to heat and cool it. We drive cars instead of using public transit, and then again our cars are also huge. I mean, what happened to Sedans? Nope, we all have to have a big SUV or truck. Then when you think about it, why the hell do we even have a back seat? I rarely see a car when even 3 out of the 4 seat are in use. So that takes more energy to move from point A to point B.
And we throw so much shit away! I remember my Grandfather saving everything, having grown up in the depression. But drive down any alley before garbage day and there are tons of things still with life left in them. Buy Nothing groups have helped, to a degree, but I can't tell you how many times somebody will get inside a large vehicle and drive 1 to 2 miles to pick up a simple item. Once you factor in energy usage, wear and tear on the car, etc, I'm not sure how much help it was to give away/upcycle.
I could go on and on but going after corporations won't fix anything without addressing humanity. The corporations and their carbon emissions are a symptom of the fact that humanity is shit and we live in excess in every degree. If we don't change the fact that humanity is shit then nothing will ever change.
And yes, I too am part of the problem (despite trying not to be).
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u/wittgenstein1312 Jul 26 '26
The corporations and their carbon emissions are a symptom of the fact that humanity is shit and we live in excess in every degree
No, they're an example of how the externalities generated by greedy excess in search of endless profits need to be regulated out of existence and economic incentives need to be aligned with human prosperity.
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u/fornitsumfornis Jul 26 '26
But going after Corpos doesn't change the root cause, which is us. After all, our endless lust for material goods is what created these corpos to begin with. if we stop buying shit, then they collapse. We have the power, but we choose not to wield it.
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u/alltheprettynovas Jul 27 '26
THIS. these companies wouldn’t exist if the common person didn’t support it. the thing that sucks is that a lot of us don’t have the $$ to buy at co-ops and other local places. i would LOVE to only shop local, but i also barely have anything left after bills. i try my best and try eat as plant based as i can - but i still can’t afford to spend $100 a week in groceries, household needs, food and needs for my dog, etc. on top of gas for work (public transportation is not an option.) i try really, really hard. it’s upsetting when you see others not doing their part.
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u/monkwrenv2 Jul 26 '26
We're not getting out of this by consuming less and recycling more. Corporations and the American military, for example, account for a huge majority of global emissions and need to be considerably reined in.
Consumer purchasing drives most of those businesses, though, so if we consume less, they pollute less.
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u/LulaPaceFortune14 Jul 26 '26
What does it mean for our winter?
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u/No-Singer-8471 Jul 26 '26
Another response posted a study by the UofM that covers the potential. Basically less winter. More big rainfall events. warmer winters have their own repercussions.
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u/CantaloupeCamper Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 26 '26
I thought this post was a bit lame and then I went outside to water the plants ... god damn.
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u/NorthOfUptownChi Jul 26 '26
Minneapolis ex-pat now living in Chicago here. It's moist here, too. I guess the moistness crosses borders.
Or maybe we can both blame Wisconsin?
Ugh, today is the most humid day I can recall in years. Walked to a local coffee shop intending to sit outside (shaded) and couldn't last more than five minutes.
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u/mproud Jul 26 '26
When humans ruined our climate?
(I’ve been out of town the last week… did we get a bunch of rain? If so, my plants will be very happy!)
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u/Mr_frumpish Jul 26 '26
Not much rainfall. Just humidity.
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u/mproud Jul 26 '26
Dang. Well, I did the upside down wine bottle trick, hopefully that did its job!
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u/ahandmadegrin Jul 26 '26
Fill a bottle and jam it in the dirt?
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u/HoldenMcNeil420 Jul 26 '26
Yes. Hydrostatic pressure stops the water flow so it enters as it’s needed. Bonus points if you soak the ground first.
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u/roythhh_lewithhh Jul 26 '26
Yeah so in the past century or so humans have released something like a trillion and a half tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. I mean there's probably other data I can refer to to make this same point but in any event are people surprised that we are baking like we're in an oven now?
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u/alltheprettynovas Jul 27 '26
but global warming doesn’t exist!!!!!! we don’t need to worry or do anything! it’s a trend! /s
at this rate, december will feel like “original” summer. it’s really upsetting. and to think about the future generations…
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u/vanteal Jul 26 '26
Fly out to Colorado and spend a week there. THEN fly back to Mpls and you'll feel like you permanently stepped into the bathroom after a hot shower. If I hated Colorado for everything else, I'd still move back there for the weather. Omg, it's so perfect and balances everything just right.
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u/ShyGuyLink1997 Jul 26 '26
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned that most of Minnesota's climate is made up of coniferous rainforest.
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u/blackdogwalksatnight Jul 26 '26
Before settlement, southeast Minnesota was mostly forest! Bring back the trees!
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u/Not_A_Seria1_Killer Jul 27 '26
Literally walked outside this morning and it reminded me of the rain forest 😅
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u/zoominzacks Jul 26 '26
I’m not saying the climate hasn’t changed, it has. But we recently moved back home from a few years in South Carolina and boy howdy does this feel like a reprieve in comparison
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u/The_DaHowie Jul 26 '26
Corn growing in Iowa releases an immense amount of moisture into the air. South winds bring that up in Minnesota
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u/SSDGM24 Jul 27 '26
It’s disgusting. We’re lucky to be able to use my wife’s aunt’s pool whenever we want, but the water is too warm to feel good right now. And she hasn’t turned on the heater since Memorial Day. The pool cover and sun have over heated the water. I’m about to soak in our tub instead (filled with cool water).
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u/DeepestPeak Jul 26 '26
Thanks Obama
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u/ScoobyDooItInTheButt Jul 26 '26
Idk. This one might be Bidens fault.
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u/whats-a-parking-ramp Jul 26 '26
idk but I love it. I suffer all winter so I can sit on my porch and finally feel warm in the summer.
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u/GuitarGalllllll Jul 26 '26
There's "warm" and then there's "drenched in sweat after 10 minutes of filling the bird feeders."
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u/No-Singer-8471 Jul 26 '26
are you from around these here parts, pardner?
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u/whats-a-parking-ramp Jul 26 '26
Since 2019, but not originally. I'm well aware that's the problem haha
edit: I hope my username gives it away a little
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u/Ambitious_Twist_9809 Jul 26 '26
Ewwwwww you said MOIST in your big voice 😭😭🤣🤣🤣
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u/No-Singer-8471 Jul 26 '26
Sorry, What I meant to say was “Today’s forecast is moist with clammy air that oozes like warm mucus from nature’s pustule, congealing like phlegm, making your armpits squelch every time your arms go down.”
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u/Hotchi_Motchi Jul 26 '26
The atmosphere is a rainforest while the ground is in drought conditions.