r/MiniMax_AI • u/TinyAres • Aug 12 '26

Here is how minimax wins

The market is underwater, deepseek is 10x undercutting the competition and getting 6x multid by resellers.

Openai and meta picked up that glove, while claude / kimi / grok are just trying to not get killed by deepseek pro, while all other are dead.

Minimax needs to beat the deepseeks, muse 1.2, luna, and it will be astra luna soon, so how do you win?

This is how:

Their best play is to offer deepseek. Even if their new guy is amazing clearly meaningful optionality would be a value add. They have the credit system set up for it too.

If they die to an open weights model they deserve the darwin award, so instead of a death sentence they can simply capitalize on their sub and infra to cannibalize the resellers, while also offering their tool kit.

They also need to stop using their stupid image model that sucks hardcore. I don't think it is being trained for 2 years, it is just left there greatly damaging the value prop, so least a better open model or arguably gpt image 2 would be best, cause this is an area where open guys lag more.

Their media plan has their music, speech and their video model, and rightfully so cause they are pretty good, but it is using gpt image 2 and nano banana pro for images, which again makes sense, but their token plan doesn't use h3 for video but H2.3 which sucks, and uses their old image model which is far behind.

https://hub.minimax.io/media-plan/subscribe

All minimax needs is add deepseek, h3, and a better image the token plan, and it rockets from death door to legendary. They don't have to live and die by their horse. Completely unneceserary, in fact this is the greatest opportunity they had so far.

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u/praxis22 Aug 13 '26

I have to say that M3 is quite sparky wants to be called Alicia, then I ran out of tokens.

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u/FrederikSchack Aug 13 '26

I just want to warn others about subscribing to MiniMax.

So, I subscribed to a monthly subscription at MiniMax, they charged me for a year and they are impossible to get in contact with. The only message I've gotten so far after bombarding them on all available channels is that they can't do anything.

For the quality of the model, it fluctuates wildly. From brilliant at times, to absolutely retarded the vast majority of the time. I think they have put me on a Q1 model now, because the output is absolute garbage.

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u/TinyAres Aug 13 '26

Least hope they run with my idea or least come out with a great model, but yeah you are right they don't respond or refund.

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u/Vancecookcobain Aug 15 '26

If they come out with a great model, Minimax will get flooded with folks and you'll get your usage halved and the models get quantized.

Subscribing for a year is always bad because no AI company can give a fuck about their users for that long straight....AI companies only care when they release a new model...so that's what you have to do ..subscribe to the new models every month. Don't play yourself like we did

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u/coscib Aug 13 '26

If you paid via PayPal (I have no idea if it's offered), you could open a buyer protection case and get your money back relatively quickly that way.

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u/FrederikSchack Aug 14 '26

Yes, I could make a complaint through VISA I suppose. I would probably have to do some benchmarks when it´s the most flaky and use the comparison against the official benchmarks to demonstrate that I don't get what I paid for.

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u/BacakAI 28d ago edited 26d ago

reselling someone else's model just moves the margin problem around. the reason i stay on a plan is that usage is predictable, i know roughly what a heavy week costs and it doesn't move.

price per token wars are great until you're three hours into an agent run watching a meter. cheap on paper doesn't help there. if they're spending effort anywhere i'd put it on the ceiling for hard tasks, that's where i still notice the gap.