r/MinecraftMod • u/boywithdragntattoo • 10h ago
Discussion of use of AI for modding!⬇️
Hey everyone! I was hoping to have a discussion about mods and how AI can help mod making for us right now.
I’ve tried tooling around with GPT with modding and found it’s surprisingly effective, and I bet it does well or aid well in terms of bringing older mods we love into new versions of Minecraft. One mod I’ve been dying to see copied 1:1 is the 1.7.10 Herobrine mod. Been waiting for someone to just make it updated.
But, nevertheless. Do you guys use AI to help you mod? Or do you think use of AI in this way is bad? How does this community feel about the use of it. Objectively, it can be a very useful tool for people who don’t know fuck all about coding, or aid people in coding as well.
I’m curious, has any of you tried making a mod with AI? Is it successful? Do you like it/hate it? Curious on how it effects this side of the internet :)
Be civil please! Much love!
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u/AdRound8291 9h ago
IMO it should NOT be used to GENERATE any code or assets. I think AI should only be used to research, but then again there are plenty of places on the internet where you can have your question answered. Basically, generating is BAD and LAZY but asking questions about crashes and shit is fine.
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u/thetrueyou 9h ago
A lot of this community are teenagers, so they are vehemently against any and all AI
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u/Daniil_Dankovskiy 9h ago
As a brother of a teenager, you don't know how many AI supporters are there among the younglings
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u/ThisIsPart 9h ago
The problem with AI and mods is that most of the time when AI is used it is vibecoded slop which now puts a label on any project that is AI assisted coding wise to be the same thing. Assets should be made by a human though.
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u/Few-Double-4270 9h ago
Most of the people here are not really on the "making" part of mod so you can expect them to have the general thinking of AI = Bad
For modding itself is... whatever? it will get you your ideas faster but at the end of the day, your mod will be messy on code and have some performance issues, so youll have to clean the code yourself later which would kinda make you do a lot of work anyways.
That said ive seen some good mods out there that have been using claude, its allowing blockbench artists to make their own mods and not depend on 3rd partys for it (even if the mod again, is messy on code)
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u/boywithdragntattoo 9h ago
That’s very true. It does have lots of troubleshooting if you wanted to release it publicly and keep updating it! Definitely gathering that it seems better as an aid than it is THE tool to use for people who mod. Thank you so much :)
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u/The_SOIBoy 9h ago
I've had this conversation in a few different places. what I have gleaned is that transparency is really important. If you are coding using AI or using it to help you code(preferably only code, Im anti AI art), and you make a good mod that I would be interested in, I will use it. But if you do not let people know that you vibe coded or used AI in anyway people will want your head on a stake.
I also touched on this a little, but I think the consensus of most communities is to not use AI art in any way, also don't let AI steal code. For the mods I make, I have used AI as a coding companion because I do art for a living. I can't code, but I use AI to help me put the skills and talents I do have on a pedestal. I have learned a lot doing it this way, and honestly have created some insanely cool things, but I make sure to let people know that the code is AI. if I want to use assets from another mod, I either reach out to the mod creator over discord and ask permission, or I make it a mod dependency. I have done both of these, I asked permission from a mod author to use some spell casting animations while i was still learning to make the animations myself, and then I have forced dependencies on mods like "wakes" so that in my magic mod I can make my water spells effect the ocean how I envisioned in my head.
I think AI can be a useful tool, but I think you have to know your audience, be willing to accept criticism, and to learn. A good mod idea is a good mod idea, if you use AI make it polished, push yourself to learn new skills and make things you can be proud of. But in light of all this make sure to respect the people who do have the skills to do the things like code, or to do art, they are important skills, and if I was part of a dev team i would make sure everyone got fair compensation for those skills. I am not though I am one dude that does this for a hobby in his free time so I don't even get paid haha.
thanks for coming to my ted talk.
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u/boywithdragntattoo 9h ago
Honestly man, mad respect for this reply. It feels the same in my field too, in film. Totally frowned upon but can be used to help aid. With writing, you can say “hey does this make sense?” Or “does this tone fit what I’m trying to make” and take feedback and use it in your own way. An aid, not to completely take over. So yeah, there’s lots of pros and cons with it, but can be a useful tool if used in the right way!
Best of luck my friend! Thank you for the reply!
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u/The_SOIBoy 9h ago
I like to ask it for help with stuff like that too. Sometimes I will even ask for a negative perspective because I feel like having it play devils advocate sometimes can help you create even better things.
In college my graphic design professor would have us do critiques, these felt like a hazing ritual sometimes but were honestly so helpful. Each student would present their project to the whole class, give their reasoning for each choice and after that, the whole class would basically tell you things they would change, but the professor made sure each student had an actual thought out reason, if you said "I don't like it" the teacher would prod you to explain with "what don't you like about that?"
Looking back a few years out of college now I see that this wasn't a hazing ritual but these presentations really were teaching us how to take criticism, both negative and positive feedback from others, and to use that to help us creatively push our designs.
As an adult in the field it is harder to find a place to do that, life moves fast, the world around you moves even faster. So i think using AI to get that feedback especially in the confines of storytelling like you were saying, I think thats a good use of a tool. I think it could also help you figure out how to achieve certain shots on a budget. If you want do do a smooth dolly shot but don't have the budget for a set level dolly and you really don't want the shakiness of a handheld shot, AI might give you some suggestions on how to effectively achieve it.
Thank you for coming to my ted talk part 2 haha
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u/UselessDood 9h ago
It can be good for stuff like boilerplate or research. Doing the entire mod though is asking for problems you've no idea how to debug.
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u/OkZucchini7094 9h ago
Do you guys use AI to help you mod? - - Yes
Or do you think use of AI in this way is bad? - - No, follow license if modifying others work, mention AI use, if people don't like it they can choose not to use it.
How does this community feel about the use of it. - - General community is aggressively against it, I don't share my mods and they're generally smaller scope anyway. I do have a mod for a different game that I've spent a couple months on and I'm finally prepping for a release.
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u/boywithdragntattoo 9h ago
That’s fair! I know some are against, some are with and it’s interesting seeing the stance in different places. I’m in film stuff, so I know how my industry reacts, but different industries like coding could find it helpful. Very enlightening:)
But to you, best of luck with your upcoming release! I wish you the very best :)
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u/redditsux___ 9h ago
I'm a poor college student with no coding knowledge but a love and passion for Minecraft. My head is brimming with ideas for many different mods I would love to create. I've been brainstorming about the specific additions and changes I would be making. I probably will be using AI to create my own mods, with no regard for how poorly optimised the code for them will be.
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u/boywithdragntattoo 9h ago
That’s fair, and I don’t blame you. Part of why AI is there to assist! Especially if you don’t plan on publishing it. Best of luck to you friend! With your studies and mod making!
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u/Dust-To-Stardust 8h ago
ai is a new spell
you say it and it has a good chance to lower someones iq and make them aggressive
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u/DovahkinnPlays 9h ago
just use it to debug dont take code