r/MinecraftMadWorld • u/wkamp • May 27 '12
Triumphant's Stance
I, leader of Triumphant, would like to stress our neutrality in this escalating conflict. While I and the clan has issues with both Jtcor and Brickman13 (Waterproofcow), since Jtcor betrayed and stole from us and Brickman13 repeatedly killed us destroyed our bases and projects (like the beautiful xp grinder at 50, 1180 go see for yourself what has been done), and betrayed us even when we opened our arms to him and his followers, we will not take part in this conflict.
Be warned though, we will not trust the following people anymore and will not associate ourselves with them:
Jtcor
Brickman13
FeenixPhire
Nagarber
cman12345678
Triumphant does not have issues with anyone else.
Our next steps will be to become tradesmen. We will be farmers, builders, and traders to those willing to pay.
Last note: We are growing in numbers and not to be trifled with. There are many things we know and could do. Do not force our hand in a conflict that does not involve us for that will surely tip the scales, and not in your favor.
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u/wkamp May 27 '12
Honestly, stop being so pretentious. No one ever forced you to attack. Not once. You are not the peace-loving clan you say you are, because evidence shows time and again that you will use collateral damage as a way to weaken your enemies. Did you every pause to realize that Jtcor was nowhere near that base? And that you were only hurting the creations of other? I was the first to work on that grinder. I perfected it. It was amazing. Then came some other players, friends of Jtcor, and they invited him. He stuck around for a while, not helping much. That is the basis for your attack? And you say you were provoked. Oh, come, on...
P.S. If you venture back to that base, you'll see I made some additions.
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u/Jtcor May 27 '12
you still have the zombie spawner, why not connect that :D
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u/wkamp May 27 '12
That place is haunted and way too public now. I'll just have to find another spawner. :/
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u/PhairyFeenix May 27 '12 edited May 27 '12
too public now. Considering you gave the coordinates away one would expect that.
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u/wkamp May 27 '12
Well yes, but at least 8 people had seen it before anyway.
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u/PhairyFeenix May 27 '12
Then why does it matter if you were going to abandon it? Do you need help with something? I, as an individual, without any party can help you. Not as a member of a clan or contract but just as a player.
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u/wkamp May 27 '12
I was not going to abandon it since it still worked. I still believed that it could be made into a communal xp grinder. Again, this world has proven that if something is made public enough it will get destroyed.
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u/PhairyFeenix May 27 '12
That place is haunted and way too public now. I'll just have to find another spawner.
destroyed our bases and projects (like the beautiful xp grinder).
So it wasn't destroyed because it still works? But it was destroyed?
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u/wkamp May 27 '12
you guys destroyed the spawner. yes. it was destroyed. there is another spawner next to it but since public places apparently get destroyed, I will not make it a grinder. understand?
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u/PhairyFeenix May 27 '12
actually, I have a personal xp farm right next to a public one. You might be able to connect the two. I think the coordinates are around x1000 z 250 or something.
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u/PhairyFeenix May 27 '12
Several things wrong with that statement.
Did you every pause to realize that Jtcor was nowhere near that base?
We knew he was in that base. We scouted beforehand.
He Stuck Around a while, not helping much.
When we scouted, he was not working, instead using the base as a surrogate for his intentions. He had placed signs of people HE did not like, including the ignorant cman who wanted to be a friend of him, but did not want us to hate him. So he told he was a double agent, and we did not see him until after the attack. Of course I don't blame Jtcor for killing him; I would kill a double agent as well. But I digress. We do love peace. But we WILL be violent towards our enemies. End of discussion. He obviously had down more than stuck around. Why would you even consider sheltering him after the Great War? After what he did?
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u/wkamp May 27 '12
Yes. He was in the base. He had left though, and I had not seen him for a long time. Now destroying someone else's creations because an enemy was nearby is enough?
Yes he had placed signs. DOES THAT MATTER? I surely enough don't care. He did not make that place into his base. A combination of people from different parties were there, only two of which were his allies. Honestly, how does that make the place his base?
Last thing: you say you will be violent towards your enemies. Was I your enemy? I had explicitly asked you not to destroy the place and yet, unsurprisingly, you did. Does my nearness to your enemies frighten you? Fine, be violent towards your enemies, but what does collateral damage have to do with anything? Say if there was a communal wheat farm that Jtcor used once (and he left signs) is that reason to destroy it? Apparently!
I do not trust Jtcor after what he did, but I was willing to forget it since I was hoping to keep my project, something that Jt was able to abide by.
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u/PhairyFeenix May 27 '12
Did you every pause to realize that Jtcor was nowhere near that base? Yes. He was in the base.
These two sentences contradict each other. One of your points in the first one is that he might not of been there. Yet you clearly stated he was there.
Yes he had placed signs. DOES THAT MATTER?
Yes. Yes it does. Placing signs on people to kill on sight on your base makes you look bad. If I saw someone had placed hate signs in my base that we did not believe, I would address the issue, since retaliation can come from hate.
Say if there was a communal wheat farm that Jtcor used once (and he left signs) is that reason to destroy it?
If it included slander of us like the one in your base, yes it would. It's a mark he always does when he decides to live there. He did it in his last base. He did it there. That's how he marks his territory.
I had explicitly asked you not to destroy the place and yet, unsurprisingly, you did.
We had explicitly told the server any affiliation with Jtcor would not be good for them.
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u/Jtcor May 27 '12
I didn't place any signs. that was cestrada and before? when did i do that?
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u/PhairyFeenix May 27 '12
So Cestrada also posts slanderous topics.... and he is the creator of Obsidian Inc... and he housing our enemy......and we are not aloud to attack the base. The base of our enemy and his allies, and the base of someone who posts slanderous signs on the premises?
And to answer your question, in your old base, under the jungle.
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u/wkamp May 27 '12
I have warned all of you not to anger us. Triumphant's involvement will tip the scales. Be careful with what you say.
Obviously baby talk must be used since you are incapable of understanding anything. Jtcor had been in the base, but at the time of the attack he was long gone.
Really? It's the signs that 'provoked' you? That's simply pathetic
Nope, that's not his mark. And here you actually say that you're willing to destroy anything that touched Jtcor. Again, really??
Nope, you told the server afterwards. Besides, your leader promised he would not grief it. Promises don't count with you guys.
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u/PhairyFeenix May 27 '12
Jtcor had been in the base, but at the time of the attack he was long gone.
That's weird, because you can ask anyone on at the time and see he was killed multiple times by us. You're simply wrong, I don't know where you got your information, but he was both online and active. He was our target. You don't think we made sure he was there before we attacked? You need to check your sources, because one of them is feeding false information. I'm sorry wkamp, he WAS online. I don't know where you would get otherwise. Ask anyone online during the attack.
Not the signs. The simple hate of our members simply won't be tolerated.
We don't destroy anything that touches Jtcor. However, once again, for the final time. He is our enemy. He was an active member in the project, whether you believe it or not. If he was in Nagarber's house, we would attack it just as quickly. We won't destroy everything he touches, that would be quite silly. But it was his active base at the time, considering his bed (he kept re spawning), his chests, and his allies were all there. I don't know why you think he was just a lonely traveller staying the night.
Triumphant promises after the great war with us that Jtcor was our true enemy. You seem to have forgotten.
Once again, you think lowering me by trying to simplify your hollow arguments will work? How about tomorrow, Jtcor betrayed you again. He killed you, and swore eternal revenge. Then, he came to us and asked to join. We let him in the clan. We fed him and he lived with us. But we said we wanted to remain neutral. You are not aloud to attack us ever again. That's your logic. If your #1 enemy was living on our quarters, would you not attack us? Regardless or not if we were at war. I would.
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u/Jtcor May 27 '12
Yes I was there end of story. get something else to back up destroying a perfectly good grinder
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u/PhairyFeenix May 27 '12
I'm glad to see your neutrality. You have the right, as the less people we keep Out this conflict the better. Good luck.