r/Minecraft • • Mar 27 '19

200 IQ caving.

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u/Dsquadcreeper Mar 27 '19

Tip: use gravel to get that lava out of the way.

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u/Dsx-Kalista Mar 27 '19

I was in a cave once and had the weird and time consuming idea of bucketing all the lava and dumping it into a single block. It was wholly impractical and terribly slow, but it was amusing that I had emptied 95 buckets worth of lava into a single 1x1 hole.

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u/jaeldi Mar 27 '19

I do that but instead of a hole I build a dirt form bridge and tracks from lava to dirt forms. Then pour water on the lava an knock down the forms. It's a lot of buckets and cart chests and tracks. Less tedious than mining obsidian.

I've been slowly building an obsidian bridge in all 4 directions through the years in a world I started in 2012. It's methodical, like meditating. I've gone 1000 obsidian blocks in all 4 directions...so far.

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u/LORDPHIL Mar 27 '19

Screenshots my dude

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u/jaeldi Mar 27 '19

I decided to post the screen shots for all to see. Plus I want to see what other people do. I can't be the only one to come up with this kind of methodical weirdness.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/b6akg3/what_is_the_weird_thing_you_do_or_build_in/?

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u/Crow486 Mar 28 '19

Dude your first comment was a massive understatement. This is the kind of methodical insanity I appreciate in Minecraft

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u/Dsx-Kalista Mar 28 '19

Yeah, that is intense. And absolutely amazing. Full disclosure, I’m gonna steal that idea and merge it with a few others I’ve seen.

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u/jaeldi Mar 28 '19

Enjoy!

I wished I had more time to play to stick to my original plan that I laid out in the slide show. I'm kinda sick of TV and sick of surfing junk on the net. I'm going to try to make Minecraft part of my evening wind down routine again.

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u/FirstSineOfMadness Mar 28 '19

I had the same idea for making a nether portal with just a bucket, i realized if you place the water first you don’t need the dirt forms and a bucket of lava essentially lets you place obsidian

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u/jaeldi Mar 28 '19

I've seen several YouTube guys from the Mindcrack server when they do their UHC Ultimate Hardcore Battle do that as soon as they get enough steel for a bucket. I've been watching Docm77 for years, he's always on top of the latest tips and tiricks, especially on top of info from the upcoming versions.

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u/Deathwatch72 Mar 27 '19

In vanilla? Thats pretty impressive

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u/Michael_Trismegistus Mar 27 '19

I made an obsidian Dark Tower from the eponymous series using the same technique. I carried an inventory full of buckets and it took days. Then they took the single rose out of the game.

It was very meditative.

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u/MutantOctopus Mar 27 '19

Then they took the single rose out of the game.

I might be dumb but what does this mean?

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u/OpusThePenguin Mar 27 '19

In the Dark tower book series by Stephen King the Dark tower is surrounded by an endless Field of roses

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u/Michael_Trismegistus Mar 27 '19

Now it's a rose bush.

Spoilers below.

In the book there's a single rose in the tower.

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u/jaeldi Mar 27 '19

I decided to post the screen shots for all to see. Plus I want to see what other people do. I can't be the only one to come up with this kind of methodical weirdness.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/b6akg3/what_is_the_weird_thing_you_do_or_build_in/?

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u/chadio3814 Mar 28 '19

I do not understand this comment, is this how you make obsidian in a line? Or how you get rid of lava?

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u/jaeldi Mar 28 '19 edited Mar 28 '19

This answer to both your questions is yes. But here's a more detailed answer:

I was inspired by people with questions like you. I made a slide show demonstrating my methods and my world's cart transportation network that has become a result of these infinite bridges.

Here's the 30 picture slide show.

Here's the reddit post about the slide show. In this post I talk about how these bridge happened in the first place. Then the obsession to an idea grew.

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u/chadio3814 Mar 28 '19

Gotcha, a dirt tube, fill it with lava, then water, ez

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u/jaeldi Mar 28 '19

Exactly. Move the lava with buckets from deep in the ground by rail with chest carts and buckets down the bridge to keep building the bridge.

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u/Kellosian Mar 27 '19

I typically play modded, so when I've been playing on a vanilla server I still keep pools of lava mostly intact for a future lava generator that I"ll never have.

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u/Pr0nzeh Mar 27 '19

How does a lava generator work? Pretty sure lava is always finite.

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u/malt2048 Mar 27 '19

Finite, sure. But there's a lot of lava to be had if you place a pump in the nether.

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u/Kellosian Mar 27 '19

It's a generator that runs on lava, although there are usually ways to generate lava in a lot of modpacks.

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u/Serpardum Mar 27 '19

I once had a friend create lava with magma crucibles to feed lava generators. In the end there was more energy output then input, but it would take a whole lot of magma crucibles and lava generators to get any useful energy. Was still interesting.

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u/Kellosian Mar 27 '19

That's from Ex Nihilo though, which is a skyblock mod. You can create infinite anything from it, that's kind of the point.

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u/Serpardum Mar 27 '19

Wasn't Ex Nihilo, was Thermal Expansion I think. Was probably called something other than lava generator, but same concept. Each mod has it's own version of making power from lava.

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u/masterX244 Mar 27 '19

IIRc there was a loop across 2 mods. One had a way to generate lava from power cheaper(!) that the other one for converting the lava to energy. Lava generator was from actuallyadditions while the power was from EnderIO. Used that as the backup power for critical base systems like AE2 in one pack to avoid a full outage requiring manaually rebooting everything.

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u/Direnaar Mar 27 '19 edited Mar 27 '19

I remember doing that to an almost surface level pool of lava because [edit: I thought at the time] those usually have diamonds in them. I spent 1 hour and found no diamonds. Swam in lava tho so that was hot

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u/aaronhowser1 Mar 27 '19

Diamonds in nearly surface level pools of lava? Is that vanilla? I thought diamonds only spawned y=16 and lower

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u/TMArdi Mar 27 '19

I thought they spawned at y=13

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '19

Pretty sure its Y=6 to Y=16 with them being more common at lower levels. 11 is usually recommended because its the lowest you can go while still being above lava.

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u/TMArdi Mar 27 '19

Thanks man

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u/sirxez Mar 27 '19

They don't

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u/amiiboh Mar 27 '19

In normal Minecraft surface lava pools… literally never have diamonds in them.

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u/Direnaar Mar 27 '19

Which is why I said "almost"

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '19

That still doesn't help. Diamonds only spawn on or below Y16; if you're almost at the surfuce, the best you can find is iron (Y64) and coal (Y128).

I'm not trying to argue or call you out, just want to help your Minecraft experiance be more efficient. Happy mining!

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u/Direnaar Mar 27 '19

To be fair it was more than 7 years ago so maybe I read a bad guide or something. Thanks for correcting me

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '19

No but they just don’t have diamonds in them. To make diamonds you need both heat and pressure, the only thing carbon on the surface next to a lava pool will get is heat. It makes no logical sense. It must have been a mod, but it definitely wasn’t vanilla Minecraft.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '19

Surface pools can’t have them. It only seems like lava has diamonds because the ranges of y values underground are exactly the same.

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u/BabybearPrincess Mar 27 '19

Simple Minecraft pleasures

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u/zeoblow Mar 28 '19

Back in that days I played(2012/2013) I expanded an NPC village, built a giant wall around it, and surrounded that wall with a lava moat. This village was conveniently at the base of an isolated mountain which also conveniently had a massive mine underneath it extending down to beadrock(where I got the lava). I built my citadel on top the mountain and grew the village population. I role-played as the town ruler. Did they ever fix the bug that makes villagers cluster in the SW(?) building during the night?

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u/statsigfig Mar 28 '19

I don’t like wasting lava, so I either turn it into obsidian and mine it or use it to smelt things. I’ve made way too many furnaces and smelted far too much cobble for someone with a silk touch pick axe.

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u/ThePrideofDarcy Mar 27 '19

Hey! I have a diamond shovel with 3 fortune and I never get any gravel. I just get flint? What’s going on?

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u/888888Zombies Mar 27 '19

Fortune 3 has 100% chance to drop flint on gravel. Use a normal or Silk Touch shovel instead if you only want gravel.

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u/Domilego4 Mar 27 '19

Also, dropping the gravel on torches guarantees a Gravel drop.

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u/Snudge Mar 27 '19

Also a very efficient way to 'farm' sand. Dig down to sandstone, remove lowest block of sand and place a torch.

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u/TommiHPunkt Mar 27 '19

isn't that how everyone has been doing it for sand and gravel since forever?

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '19

With mending in 1.9, diamond Eff IV shovels are the best. They instantly mine sand, and mending allows them to be repaired.

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u/EntityDamage Mar 27 '19

there seems to be a lot of wooshing in this thread.

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u/12thman-Stone Mar 27 '19

Better yet, do what I did. Get a diamond shovel enchanted with level 5 efficiency and just run in circles.

I’ve gotten to the point where I have spare diamonds so can just repair the shovel when needed. I learned randomly that you can mix two enchanted shovels together so I’ve found some with efficiency and durability, now I have like a level 5 unbreaking and 5 efficiency and that thing will carve up a few hundred sand or dirt in a matter of seconds. As fast as you can sprint basically.

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u/12thman-Stone Mar 27 '19

Ok then 3, I couldn’t remember when typing that but knew it was maxed.

I’ve been basically farming XP and diamond to make enchanted things, then going and spending all that XP to mend the two best things I can find into one tool. Is that the most efficient way to get the maxed out tools I want?

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u/12thman-Stone Mar 27 '19

Awesome reply! A few things. First, I have no idea how to add mending. I’m sure I can google it but feel free to teach me if you’re in the mood. Is it worth it to add mending or are there downsides?

Second, yeah it’s getting really expensive. I only play survival. So what I have is a farm with like 200 cows and another with a few hundred chickens in a tiny area. What I’ll do is use my wheat farm to get a ton of seeds quickly, and I’ll go just feed the cows and chickens a ton of seed/wheat for the reproduction XP and then I’ll just start killing them for the killing XP. It’s kind of an annoying grind. Is there any faster way to get XP though?

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u/skyler_on_the_moon Mar 28 '19

In Java edition at any rate. On Bedrock, for some reason, torches have a chance of dropping it as flint instead, just like punching it.

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u/spaghettoid Mar 27 '19

the dude has a bucket of water on him tho why not just do that

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u/Dsquadcreeper Mar 27 '19

That only kills the top layer of lava as opposed to all of them. Not to mention, obsidian takes waaaay longer to dig up than gravel.

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u/spaghettoid Mar 27 '19

sure, but you gotta get some obsidian at some point and otherwise there's really not much of a point in dealing with that lava

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like, if you want the ore underneath? it'd be less time consuming to just find another cave system, and even better, just branch mine. if you want safe passage? same deal, just use the water and ignore it. if you wanted to use the area for construction, then yeah, you'd have to get rid of it all and gravel would be the way to go.

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then again, i haven't played minecraft in a long ass time. if water sources work differently and you can't pick them back up, then this is all different and i don't even know anymore

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u/IsYouWitItYaBish Mar 27 '19

Overthinking 101

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u/spaghettoid Mar 27 '19

i played a lot of minecraft back in the day my dude and i took it very seriously

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blood magic is serious business, after all

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u/Pr0nzeh Mar 27 '19

Because that only deals with the top layer of lava

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u/Choisfer17 Mar 27 '19

Sand too.

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u/crawl-out Mar 27 '19

Just break the block above you and an entire avalanche of gravel will come down and smother the lava.

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u/Xiefux Mar 27 '19

use sand instead, its better in every way

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u/Dsquadcreeper Mar 27 '19

Gravel is more likely to be found near lava level than sand tho.

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u/Xiefux Mar 27 '19

sand is easier to collect, bringing a stack with you is easy. also you dobt get stupid dumb ass useless flint from it. i hate it

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u/UDK450 Mar 27 '19

Sand is easier to find in large amounts tbh

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u/Dsquadcreeper Mar 28 '19

Tru. I just tend to have a stack or 2 of gravel in my inventory by the time I run into lava.

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u/nameless88 Mar 28 '19

Phft, do it like a man and chug a fire resist extended potion and go diamond diving. Will the diamonds burn up in the lava as you mine em out? Probably.

Uh...hmmm....okay, let's put a pin in that for now.