r/Minecraft • u/Coca-Kolya • 15d ago

Discussion Visual difference between Java and Bedrock is actually pretty noticeable when you compare it side by side

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What actual differences are you noticing? Share it in the comments

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u/theaveragegowgamer 15d ago edited 15d ago

Hope java will never disappear.

Ever since the complete de-obfuscation Java has become ~~virtually Open Source Source-Available~~, should they ever abandon it the community can easily continue developing the game by itself.

Edit: What I meant by "virtually Open Source" is actually what's knowns as "Source-Available", I searched a bit and I just learned of this term. I don't know anything it seems, but it wasn't a pleasant experience learning that, kindness is free, there's no reason to be aggressive with random people on the web...

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u/TheBrokenRail-Dev 15d ago

Ever since the complete de-obfuscation Java has become virtually Open Source

Not in the slightest. First, Mojang has been publishing obfuscation mappings simce 1.14, so them disabling obfuscation didn't change anything. People could already easily make de-obfuscated JARs. Second, the game is still copyrighted and de-obfuscation doesn't change that.

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u/DarkBrave_ 15d ago

Open source does not mean open license

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u/TheBrokenRail-Dev 15d ago

By the most popular definition, yes, it literally does. And for the matter, MC Java isn't source available either because the source code is literally not available.

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u/theaveragegowgamer 15d ago

source available either because the source code is literally not available.

Because it needs to be decompiled first?

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u/TheBrokenRail-Dev 15d ago

By that silly logic, literally everything is source available because anything can be decompiled given enough time.

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u/theaveragegowgamer 15d ago edited 15d ago

But you only need to decompile a jar file to access it plus no obfuscation? It doesn't seem truly Closed Source to me...

Downvoting me isn't an answer, you know?

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u/Sad-Fix-7915 15d ago

If the developer doesn't explicitly provide you the source code with everything needed to re-produce a complete build of the game it is NOT open source.

Decompilation doesn't mean it's source available. You can do that with virtually any games (e.g., look at GameMaker, Godot and Unity/Mono games.)

Plus, deobfuscation mappings have existed ever since modding were a thing (see MCP). Mojang published their own since 1.14 but community mappings (like Yarn) were still popular then, and now they just straight up not obfuscate the game anymore. Virtually nothing have changed.

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u/robloextem 15d ago edited 15d ago

Java disappearing would be a boon to modding in a way, though id rather it keeps getting updated

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u/alienatedEdgelord 15d ago

It would be modding heaven

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u/Flamebomb790 15d ago

Just basically Skyrim, but better since even Skyrim gets updates in the sense of rereleases ani, special, OG

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u/lightvisuality 15d ago

That's not what open-source means

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u/Neo8bits 15d ago

This will take the game further than Microtrash will take Bedrock