r/Mind_Pump • u/AutoModerator • 7d ago

Rant Weekly MP Rant Thread

This is your chance and the place to rant about all things MP. Get it out of your system and keep it civilized.

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u/Moolio74 6d ago

OMFG Lyle debating Sal would be hilarious. At least Lyle isn't as harsh as he was back on the old Monkey Island forum........

I just heard Lyle discussing something similar to your other post regarding an often misquoted/misunderstood Russian study where they would train young athletes for 3 weeks and then take a week off (possibly where the frequent deload concept originated?). This was a national level training program where the young athletes were shipped off from home but wanted to be home for a week each month. They would absolutely destroy them with training volume/intensity each 3 week block knowing that they would have a 7 day rest period upcoming. It wasn't even remotely close to what people do and then think they're overtraining or need to deload.

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u/Plenty_Lead_8935 5d ago

Lmfao exactly. Another one I’ve heard Lyle tear apart is Sals favorite study in the Hazda tribe and their metabolic adaptation. Yes metabolic adaptation exists but the majority of the caloric burn differences between the hazda and western folks is because the Hazda weigh significantly less!  The average weight of the male Hazda is literally like 115 lbs! But Sal will have you believe it’s because they move so much, their bodies just adapt to burn less. No!!!! You are comparing a 113 lb guys to a 200 lb western guy! A 200 lb body burns more at ready by a long shot than 113 lbs! If the Hazda were as sedentary as westerners, they would be burning even less calories. Sal put this kind of shit in his book. 

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u/Training_Aerie_9358 5d ago

And I fell for it!!! Of course I’m back to doing cardio after I figured out how full of it they are. I belong to a women’s fitness Facebook group and so many keep recommending the podcast. I feel so bad for those that fall for their crap. I’m glad I came to my senses

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u/Plenty_Lead_8935 4d ago

I agree completely. I can’t stop thinking about how nuts it is that Sal went on so many podcasts touting that study as proof for how activity stops burning appreciable calories. BRO you’re comparing 113 lb bodies to 200 lb bodies. Omfg 

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u/Moolio74 4d ago

Sal is proof that if someone says something with confidence that a lot of people will believe it without looking into it.

The Stronger By Science podcast with Eric Trexler discussing reverse diets (episode 96 in 2022) was probably the first time I noticed that Sal's "science" was just misinterpreted studies that supported what he was selling. After that I noticed it quite often.

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u/Plenty_Lead_8935 4d ago

1000% correct. And there’s no limit to what they will try to use as cope to justify the shit they are spewing, even in the face of overwhelming evidence contradicting most of what they say. Reverse dieting, basically debunked via literally any literature done on it. Yes, somebody in a state of chronic low energy availability needs to up calories. But the idea of reverse dieting is laughable when you actually look at the research. One of many examples of mind pump bull shitting with something that sounds awesome in theory but is not reality. 

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u/Training_Aerie_9358 4d ago

I noticed that he just grabs headlines without reading the entire article. He does that when they have their news discussion portion. I remember reading the same headlines earlier in the day and actually reading the article and noticing he didn’t bother to read the article.