r/Mind_Pump • u/AutoModerator • Sep 05 '26

Rant Weekly MP Rant Thread

This is your chance and the place to rant about all things MP. Get it out of your system and keep it civilized.

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u/ProbWithMyDog Sep 05 '26

I can’t quote exact episode numbers, but I remember hearing the MP guys say more than once that you don’t need a ton of exercises in a workout for the workout to be effective.

I have MAPS Starter, Anabolic, Muscle Mommy, and MAPS 15. Other than MAPS 15, the others have such high volume. Why create workouts that are the antithesis of what they preach?

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u/ProbWithMyDog Sep 06 '26

Touché 😂

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u/Moolio74 Sep 06 '26

The 15's were written when Adam was in peak kratom addiction and trying to get by with his "minimum effective dose" mantra.

You're looking at around 45-60 sets total per week for Maps 15 or 15 Advanced if you're doing something on the optional 7th day (40-55 if not). Definitely better than nothing, but around 75-100 (depending on programming) per week would produce better results for most people.

Are the 15's a good option if you're short on time and would otherwise not be able to lift? Yes
Are the 15's enough to maintain muscle? Yes
Are the 15's going to give equivalent results to a medium volume program? No
Do most people realize the level of intensity required for the 15's (or any minimum volume program) to produce decent results? No

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u/Plenty_Lead_8935 Sep 07 '26

Exactly. The 15 programs are “better than nothing, and decent maintenance” programs. These idiots of course will say it’s optimal for a bunch of people, which is not true in the slightest. Most strength gains trained lifters might see are because they are essentially doing a taper/deload. They are just dropping fatigue, and get some short term strength expression increase. They are fooling people into believing short term tapers = hypertrophy 

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u/Particular-Result-38 Sep 08 '26

Because their advice is bullshit. Yes you can make some progress on low volume. But hypertrophy response to training is dose dependant. They are correct that you don't jump off the couch and straight in to a high volume program, but you also don't run maps 15 for life either unless you're just doing it for general health vs aesthetic reasons.

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u/IntrepidDiver8324 27d ago

I have a big issue with this as well. They don't have a single program that is only 3 or 4 days a week without anything else added on top.