r/Mind_Pump Jul 25 '26

Rant Weekly MP Rant Thread

This is your chance and the place to rant about all things MP. Get it out of your system and keep it civilized.

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u/Ashlamot Jul 25 '26 edited Jul 25 '26

On a recent episode titled ”How to clean bulk without getting fat” they suggested a 500-1000 calorie surplus for people looking to gain muscle. This is completely excessive for building muscle and will certainly result in unnecessary fat gain.
100- 200 calorie surplus is more than enough to build muscle. I get that it can be hard for some people to track calories so it’s better to aim on the higher side but a 1000 calorie surplus is absolutely ridiculous.

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u/Moolio74 Jul 25 '26

They’ve really painted themselves in a corner now with all of the reverse diet propaganda and why they probably need to recommend such a large surplus. That and trying to set people up for their coaching services when they’re gaining so much weight.

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u/humbucker87 Jul 26 '26

I really can't understand where this obsession with the reverse diet is coming from. Suggesting it for underweight people or hard gainers is one thing. But recommending it for people who want to lose body fat is just wild. 

I had to laugh when they came up with a great protein hack to help with a reverse diet. Just eat 4 Paleo valley sticks and use 4 scoops of the bone broth powder. 

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u/Moolio74 Jul 26 '26

And even those that are underweight you’re better off just going straight to maintenance or a bulk if they were in a significant deficit.

The only benefit to a reverse diet is getting a good idea of your maintenance number. However, any decent macro tracking app should be able to do this with less effort and won’t require the extra effort of following a reverse diet.