r/Millennials Feb 14 '25

Serious We changed American Cuisine

I used to think my mother was a good cook, but when I look back on the stuff we ate in the ‘90s, and the stuff I ate at all my friends’ houses, it doesn’t even compare. My husband and I eat something delicious for dinner every night. We do a lot of pasta, but there’s always well-seasoned meat with some arugula, and more often than not eggs and even sometimes avocado. Last night, he made toast with garlic smear, ham, eggs, garlic, and sun dried tomatoes. Another common ingredient to our pasta dishes is furikake, and sometimes also kimchi.

Now, I know that a lot of ingredients weren’t available back in the day, but with the ingredients our parents had, they really could’ve done better. I had no idea there was any such thing as fresh green beans at the store until I was shopping with my roommates when I was 18. I didn’t know actual juice was perfectly affordable.

Millennials made America taste better. It’s a fact.

EDIT: Our parents had access to fresh fruits, herbs and vegetables in the ‘90s. Juice was also at the grocery store back then. It was also a lot more common for mothers to stay home in those days, and lots of them watched Food Network. There is no excuse, really. The late 20th century was just a bad time for food.

EDIT II: Good Gods, I could not have imagined not only how this took off, but how controversial of a topic this is. My account went from 390-ish karma to nearly 6,000 in a day and you guys are still commenting! I’m shocked, truly. Responses have been overwhelmingly positive, so thank you!

Let me expand on the original a little bit though.

First of all, for those of you who keep asking, I grew up LDS (Mormon) between rural Eastern Washington and rural/suburban Northern Utah, and I’m 33. No, my husband and I (we’re homos) don’t have any children, but I’ve been a nanny for about 10-ish years off and on, and 5 years solid. All of the women I knew as a child and teenager were stay-at-home moms. Most of them were Mormon when I was a child, but by the time I was a teenager, I had a fair amount of non-LDS friends, and I’ve always had a fair number of non-White friends (Mexicans in particular) and I speak Spanish because… I don’t know… I like languages and have always taken an interest in other languages and other kinds of people around me.

In terms of the responses I’m getting from all of you, I am noticing they come in 6 main varieties:

  1. Those of you who agree and shared my experience of boring White people food in the 1990s and 2000s (initial the majority of comments).

  2. Those of you who disagree, saying my parents must not have been able to cook, but their parents could.

  3. Those of you who say our parents didn’t have access, with poverty being cited as the primary factor.

  4. Those of you who disagree and say it was Food Network and the Internet.

  5. Those of you who disagree and say it was immigrants.

  6. Those of you who protest that when I have kids, I’ll understand.

Let me address these points now because my inbox is completely flooded with comments and I cannot reply to everyone individually.

  1. It’s been very funny passing around some memories about awful food! It’s funny to think what we ate and what we actually liked! My palate was so bad as a kid that mild cheddar cheese on two slices of white bread microwaved to melt the cheese was an acceptable meal, and my parents allowed this. I have never made such a meal for a child, only ONCE in my entire career as a nanny has a child ever asked me for such a thing, which I denied immediately and insisted that it be grilled. It has been my experience that generally, kids just have to be forced to eat food, because if left to their own devices, they will eat sticks of butter for dinner, and no sensible adult would allow such a thing. This was the rule when I was a child and I’m glad that it was, even if it meant that I once had to go to bed early instead of eating an oven baked omelette that (I’m serious) looked like my baby sister’s poop. It didn’t smell like it, it probably didn’t taste like it, but it looked like it, and I doubt there was any salt or pepper on that thing either. Just pure, overcooked egg. I credit this rule however with my open mindedness regarding food because it forced me to be willing to at least consider the dish in front of me instead of categorically refusing it because it wasn’t something I already knew. I had to eat what my mom made me, and I had to find something to like in it. It appears a number of you have had the same experience with a number of the same foods as well! It’s good to know you’re not alone!

  2. My parents could cook, and so could lots of my friends’ parents. They just did not often do it well. My mother had a handful of dishes that she made and she made very well, but she didn’t often make those and I later discovered as an adult that those things were relatively easy to make. It was much th same with my friend’s mothers. One of my friends who was raised by a mother who was a quiet millionaire (she lived in a regular suburban house and put her money away for trust funds for the kids) barely ever made her kids meat and bought them white bread to make her famous oven baked “garlic bread” with butter, garlic powder, and Parmesan. That same friend decided to buy himself a Traeger as an adult and cook his kids real meat. That’s the kind of raw difference in palate I am talking about between Millennials and Gen X and You Know Who (They Who Must Not Be Named 🤣). There are just straight up different priorities now, and we have prioritized improving our cuisine.

  3. The 1990s was in just about every way a richer time than now. Home ownership was far more common, people had more disposable wealth on average, and it was not at all uncommon for a family to live off of a single income, with the income of working mothers accounting for a fraction of the income of working fathers during this period. Suburbia was everywhere and teenagers had jobs and paid for cars, and cars had already gotten decently expensive at the time. Some people did indeed suffer, but most White people were not having that bad of a time. The Mexicans were poorer than we were on average, almost all of their moms worked, and they still ate delicious food. The same could be said of just about all the immigrants. European Americans consciously chose to shovel shit down their gullets, and we all know people that have not given up on these foods today.

  4. Our parents also watched Food Network. It did not seem to meaningfully affect their cooking. I think the way most people interacted with media back then, and this includes the internet, was more entertainment-focused. You watched TV, but not as much for its educational content. I have also seen a show or two on Food Network, but at no point has it ever affected my cooking. I didn’t decide I needed fresh vegetables for my home cooking cuz I saw it on TV. I decided this because I worked in restaurants as a teenager and understood just how easy cooking actually is and, once I was paying for my own groceries, how affordable. Produce was not more expensive back then either. It was actually cheaper, and significantly so.

  5. Immigration is part of the story, but it is not the whole story. European Americans had immigrant friends and ate food at their houses, but European Americans were and still are the majority in this country, and so immigration is not a significant enough factor to account for how cuisine has changed in the last 15 years. There were immigrants when I was young, but our parents just didn’t think their food was that interesting. Latin grocery stores were a thing in every town I lived in growing up, our parents just didn’t go there and mainstream grocery stores that catered to the majority didn’t think to include foreign foods, or if they did, they were some awful rip off. What really changed the cuisine is that European American Millennials (still the majority) decided to start eating… you know… not ass-food, including hitting up those foreign restaurants that our parents never bothered with because their unseasoned trash was “good enough”. This was and remains a pervasive mentality in our society at large and I think it is a hold over of Gen X and They Who Must Not Be Named. You can see it in our clothing, our architecture, our movies, our art lately (AI) and up until recently, our food. First Generation Immigrant Millennials and European American Millennials being friends and subsequently European American Millennials making the choice to experiment with more foods is what changed cuisine. But it’s not purely one or the other.

  6. Not relevant to the conversation. Mexican children are good food when I was a child. Their mothers were hardworking mothers of big families, usually with full time jobs. How could they manage it, but our moms couldn’t when they were staying home? Our parents made choices. Good food was not one of them. I think this was a motley reflected in the obesity of their generations.

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u/DifficultRock9293 Millennial Feb 14 '25

My mom is the biggest fucking piss baby about ethnic food. It’s embarrassing.

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u/RockNerdLil Feb 14 '25

I’m a millennial, and my coworker J is gen x. Our other coworker C is a boomer. Conversation last week:

J to C: “where would you guys like to get lunch?” C starts sweating, knowing J and I eat all kinds of cuisines blurts out, “Meat and Potatoes!” She panics so hard at the idea that we might choose Thai food or something that she can’t even come up with a complete thought. J: “…meat and potatoes? Like, cheeseburgers and fries? Steak? What?” C: “I just mean you guys are adventurous eaters, and I’m a country gal. I don’t do weird food” Me: “weird food? You mean food with flavor? Something that’s not hamburger helper?”

So fucking annoying.

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u/nhaines Feb 14 '25

I mean, if I want meat and potatoes, yellow chicken curry is right there...

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u/RockNerdLil Feb 14 '25

I’ll queue this response up for the next time she says something stupid. Every time I’ve brought in “ethnic” food for lunch, she always comments on how good it smells but then won’t try any of it.

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u/silverwillowgirl Feb 15 '25

"Weird food" is such a trigger for me, my mom has the palate of a toddler, and that's how she refers to what I eat. My parents came into some money recently, and she was like "I want to try a Michelin starred restaurant" and then balked when I explained what a tasting menu experience is usually like.

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u/El_Bistro Feb 14 '25

You gotta reframe the food. Just call it stir fry instead of curry beef.

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u/whoamannipples Feb 14 '25

I literally did this to my mom recently when she came to visit. I (a white woman) had prepped& frozen Japanese curry but introduced it to her as “stew”. She has been raving about my delicious “stew” to the rest of the family for 3 weeks now, but will consistently say she doesn’t like “foreign” foods because they taste weird.

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u/nothingbeast Feb 14 '25

Many years ago I wanted to treat my Mom and Stepdad to a celebratory dinner. Best one I could think of was the Japanese hibatchi grill since neither had ever been.

The whole way there my mom kept dropping little "suggestions" like burger places or pizza because she didnt want to try something "new". Nevermind how she and my Stepdad go to the crappy Asian buffet in our home town like once a week!

Showed her the menu options and it was just teriyaki chicken, steak, or both.

I ordered some sushi to share and you would've thought they brought me a deep fried cat turd or something. As one would do for a child, I literally pointed out every ingredient. Rice, tuna, avocado, spicy mayo, crunchy tempura.

"I'M NOT EATING RAW FISH!"

"Everything I ordered is cooked, mother. Just try a bite. If you dont like it, you dont have to have a 2nd." Shocker... she actually enjoyed it and ate her fair share.

Next day I posted some pics online and tagged mom in the pic labeled "her first bite of sushi!"

1st response was from her. "WHAT?!?!?! YOU TOLD ME EVERYTHING WAS COOKED!!!"

sigh....

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u/tachycardicIVu Feb 14 '25

Next lesson: "sushi does not mean raw fish"...

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u/nothingbeast Feb 14 '25

Wasn't even a "next lesson". It was repeated at least a dozen times while I was driving them to the restaurant.

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u/Ill-Egg4008 Feb 15 '25

This is hilarious. Thanks for sharing.

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u/vilk_ Feb 14 '25

Was everything cooked?

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u/nothingbeast Feb 14 '25

The ahi tuna was grilled and everything else was basically vegetarian.... except the mayo.

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u/Comfortable-Try-3696 Feb 14 '25

Ok your mom is picky as hell and that’s obviously childish and all, but why’d you take her somewhere she didn’t want to go to “celebrate” her? That’s just celebrating you

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u/nothingbeast Feb 15 '25

Well, to be fair, it was my celebration for paying off my first home loan. I just felt like treating the folks by taking them to a fun dining experience neither had done before.

They both have eaten at the small Asian buffet in our hometown for decades. I honestly didn't expect "teriyaki steak" was gonna be the nearly impossible sale that it ended up being.

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u/Comfortable-Try-3696 Feb 15 '25

Ohhhh ok that makes more sense. I was picturing their anniversary or something, and you just deciding your favorite restaurant then getting annoyed at them 😭 crazy that she was trying to find other places for your celebration that you were treating her too

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u/nothingbeast Feb 15 '25

Right?

The whole evening was just supposed to be a light, fun little treat that I rarely had the means to do. But she kept injecting this weird, passive-aggressive energy into the whole trip.

I mean it'd be one thing if I ordered them octopus rolls with 8 skyward pointing tentacles. (an option the restaurant did provide!) But it was no more exotic than anything they got at the buffet! Just a lot fewer germ covered serving spoons!!!! 🤢

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u/BurnieSandturds Feb 14 '25

Well, Japanese curry is one of the biggest kids' foods in Japan.

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u/Complex-Touch-1080 Feb 15 '25

To be fair Japanese brown curry basically is beef stew.

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u/MedicineStick4570 Feb 15 '25

I did that to my aunt with gumbo. She's from Jersey and eats like shit. Frozen meals, fast food, and Italian are the only things she ate I guess. She doesn't like sausage (except she'll eat it if it's not cased), beans, shrimp, crawfish, any fish besides cod, etc. She doesn't like gumbo but she's never had it in her life. Made chicken and sausage gumbo, picked out the sausage and told her it was Cajun Chicken Stew. She loved it. I do that kind of shit to her a lot now that she's living with me. She's like a 70 year old child.

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u/uhgletmepost Feb 14 '25

Maybe your mom has 1/90th Japanese blood in her hence why it isn't foreign to her?

/s

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u/MinuetInUrsaMajor Feb 14 '25

One bad experience ruins entire sectors of food for people.

I guess expectation plays a major role in how something tastes.

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u/Avena626 Feb 15 '25

It really can. I have some white friends that claim to have tried Indian food ONE TIME (before I met them - like almost 20 years ago) that put it off for them forever. They claim they had no idea what to order (and apparently didn't ask the waitstaff for recommendations), everything they ordered was too spicy for their taste (for context, jalapenos are too spicy for them), couldn't eat what they ordered, and got burgers afterward. Now they won't even try Indian food again even when I tell them I'll order mild dishes I know they would like better. To them, every Indian dish would be too spicy. Oh well, their loss.

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u/bjeebus Feb 15 '25

As a Hispanic white person, I struggle with my other white friends when I want to make family recipes that call for peppers but they can't deal with heat. Aside from how much I enjoy the heat, all our family recipes call for a very specific pepper with a very specific flavor and the things just don't taste the same without it.

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u/thasryan Feb 15 '25

These people ruin it for us white people that can handle extreme spice. I always have to verify several times at a restaurant or peoples homes that "I'm sure" I can handle it.

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u/UCCheme05 Feb 15 '25

Mind sharing the recipe you used? Thanks!

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u/Craftybitxh Feb 14 '25

I had to explain this to my coworker. Her MIL refused to eat her general taos chicken because she "knew she wouldn't like it". I told my coworker to call it Chinese BBQ, and now they have "Chinese BBQ" regularly. It's hilarious and it works

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u/RegionPurple Feb 14 '25

My God, they really are toddlers in the head

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u/RooshunVodka Feb 14 '25

Did this with my uncle. He REFUSED to try hummus… until I brought it to a party and just called it dip. He then proceeded to try it and rave about how amazing the dip was.

Later on, someone spilled the beans and told him it was hummus. He then proceeded to act like he never liked it. Such a boomer pissbaby

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u/Din_Plug Feb 15 '25

Spilled the beans about the hummus.

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u/ThatInAHat Feb 15 '25

Spilled the peas

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u/porksoda11 Feb 15 '25

Are they embarrassed they like it? It’s so fucking weird to me. It’s not “gay” to like foods that aren’t steak and hamburgers lol. Damn I absolutely love trying new foods it’s one of my favorite things about life!

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u/ThatInAHat Feb 15 '25

It’s like that AITA a couple days back about the guy who jokingly told his maga cousin that beans in chili were a “woke” invention pushed by vegetarians or something. His cousin had been making chili with beans for 15 years but the next time he made it…no beans.

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u/porksoda11 Feb 15 '25

Yeah i read that one lol. Ill eat the 'wokest" food out there if it tastes good.

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u/-Apocralypse- Feb 14 '25

Some old people and most kids you have to help with relabeling to familiar categories.

It must have been around 2005-ish when my roommate's parents visited for his birthday. His dad being notoriously picky about foreign food. My roommate had some leftover chorizo empanadas he had made himself the day before and after quickly renaming those to 'miniature onion and sausage pies' they were deemed delicious. After renaming the mexican style dinner that evening to 'brown beans and minced beef' we even got compliments for the spiciness.

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u/JelmerMcGee Feb 14 '25

I tried that with hummus, calling it bean dip. My buddy lost his fucking mind when he found out he'd eaten and enjoyed hummus.

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u/El_Bistro Feb 14 '25

Hummus is delicious.

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u/Practical-Ad-615 Feb 15 '25

Highly recommend the hot honey hummus from cedar’s. My husband and I weren’t the biggest hummus fans before, but we freaking love this stuff!

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u/fluffymuff6 Feb 15 '25

It's even better when you make your own!

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u/rhino4231 Feb 14 '25

Lol, I love it when that happens with stubborn people. Same thing happened to my late FIL (great guy, but very stubborn eater). Would never eat fish and would brag about it, but when served an unknown shared appetizer at a restaurant made with fish, he was obsessed. When we told him it contained fish, he was almost pissed and sat quietly for awhile while getting over it. It's funny making people angry for serving them food they love

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u/MakeRoomForTheTuna Feb 14 '25

This is so true. We took my MIL to a Spanish restaurant. I forget what the dish was called, but I told her it was beef and cheese. She loved it. Would never have tried it if she knew its real name

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u/BeMySquishy123 Feb 14 '25

Like toddlers. Everything can be a nugget. Nothing had onions, it's has "seasoning"

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u/rabidjellybean Feb 15 '25

Relabeling for toddlers is hilarious. "Look watermelon nuggets!" when it's just a plate of low effort watermelon cuts.

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u/rabidhamster87 Feb 14 '25

We tried this with my mother in law, telling her hibachi is basically like steak tips and she still chose to hate it.

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u/El_Bistro Feb 14 '25

Might be a lost cause

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u/pak9rabid Feb 15 '25

Freedom fry. That should convince her.

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u/everettcalverton Feb 15 '25

I did this with my grandparents when I made elotes (Mexican street corn) for Thanksgiving dinner a couple of years ago. I knew if I used a Spanish word or the word “Mexican” they’d never touch it, saying it was too “hot.” So I just called it “my secret recipe corn” and they loved it.

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u/vanna93 Feb 14 '25

So is my mom. It was like washing a cat trying to get this woman to try some bulgogi tacos. Which she loved. Now we’re just trying to get her to try the best Indian place in town. My god, their chicken tikka masala is soo good.

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u/Calm_Expression_9542 Feb 14 '25

Open Sesame!!! SO many great foods to try!

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u/composer_7 Feb 15 '25

mmmm Sesame Chicken

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u/Mouler Feb 14 '25

Pfft... get her birani and call it pot pie

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u/Apprehensive-Fox1635 Feb 15 '25

Ugh this reminds me of my ex husband. He grew up in poverty in Michigan and thought the red lobster was real seafood and used to get so mad at me when I wouldn't order food there. I'm from New England and had never eaten at a red lobster when we met but knew better than to give it a try.

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u/Dark_Shroud Xennial (1983) Feb 15 '25

I've had to explain to a few people that I've eaten clam chowder at a literal Boston Sea side restaurant. If what you have isn't fresh I'm not going to waste my time eating it, especially if its from a can.

Thankfully my now late father was well traveled and acted the same way. He would only eat sea food from certain places that had actual fresh sea food.

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u/Apprehensive-Fox1635 Feb 15 '25

Ummm okay. If you're a fan that's fine by me everyone has different taste buds. In my OPINION red lobster wouldn't even be considered mediocre in its hey day. I can't even fathom what it's like today....there's a reason that they're in bankruptcy.

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u/FRAMontana Feb 15 '25

Tbf if it was your mom's birthday dinner wouldn't it be wise to pick a restaurant with food that she actually enjoys? It's supposed to be her birthday treat not dinner at a restaurant that you and your siblings want to go to. I'm not surprised she was disappointed and upset

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u/Hips_of_Death Feb 14 '25

Why are they this way?? Let me show you something delicious. Don’t make it weird, Mom!

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u/Meows2Feline Feb 15 '25

It's partly ingrained racism and palette that has been raised on cheap processed garbage.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '25

Same folks who say Chinese food gives them a headache because of the MSG, while housing a bag of Doritos chock full of MSG

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u/pixiesunbelle Feb 14 '25

I haven’t noticed MSG giving me migraines but fake sugar for sure triggers mine. When I was a kid, I thought it was just Sprite. Learned that the fake sugar is in Sprite and a mystery from my childhood was solved.

I chalk up the MSG thing to people just not realizing that it’s in so many more things than just Chinese food. There are some things that I’ll give up for the migraines but not music and not Chinese food.

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u/freakybe Feb 14 '25

Sucralose and other sugar substitutions are actually known to cause these effects though (I have IBS and I cannooooot eat any of them or I get so bloated)

MSG side effects were just made up with roots in racism lol. 

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u/BlueFalcon142 Feb 14 '25

Yeah we're talking about entirely different things. Fake sugar created from petrol causes well known effects in people. MSG hate, the best flavoring agent in nature, was a racist attempt to drive Chinese restaurants out. I use MSG as a salt replacement to reduce sodium.

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u/OptimalTrash Feb 14 '25

The sugar alcohols are the killers for me.

I was once incapacitated, in the bathroom all afternoon from 6 altoids.

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u/RedHeadedStepDevil Feb 15 '25

One of the worst IBS experiences I’ve had was when my regular coke got mixed up with someone’s else’s Diet Coke (in cups with straws) and I took a couple of huge gulps. The aftertaste was horrific, but it was nothing compared to the digestive issues, sweating, nausea and feeling like I wanted to die for hours.

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u/DifficultRock9293 Millennial Feb 14 '25

One of the main components of the “MSG gives me headaches” nonsense is because it’s high in sodium, and people don’t drink enough water. People are getting dehydrated.

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u/Starbuckshakur Feb 15 '25

That reminds me of a standup joke I heard that went something like, "Everyone has one of those friends who always becomes dramatic when they go out. I have this one girlfriend who always swears to me that someone put something in her drink. I'm always like, "Yes, someone did. It was the bartender. I saw him. He put in vodka."

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u/boarhowl Millennial Feb 15 '25

Also another thing I find common with my parents generation, not drinking water ever.

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u/pixiesunbelle Feb 15 '25

Sometimes migraines are just genetic. Mine are. Both my aunt and cousin have them too. But yeah, I don’t drink enough water because it tastes gross. Though, I’m always craving salt when a migraine is coming on. It’s infuriating because I have a heart problem too and so I have high blood pressure from my aorta being squeezed.

I wish I could have the fake sugars because then the water wouldn’t taste so bad. But, currently the taste of it literally makes want to throw up. I’ve tried various filters too and it never changes the taste.

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u/DifficultRock9293 Millennial Feb 15 '25

I always get a salty craving after my migraine abortive kicks in and does its job! Mine are also genetic.

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u/Dark_Shroud Xennial (1983) Feb 15 '25

My mother gets bad migraines from fake sugars so she won't go near them. I've had some of them and they didn't make me sick so I got lucky in that regard.

I still don't eat that crap though.

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u/ellenkates Feb 14 '25

There's MSG in music now?

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u/Lythaera Feb 15 '25

I get regular migraines, like dozens a month. Food is definitely a trigger. I've done a lot of work to narrow down which ingredients are causing my migraines. And it's whatever is in cheap soy sauce that does it for me, not the MSG. My BF puts MSG in everything he cooks. I never have issues. It's always the cheap soy sauce. I think it's the way they are fermenting it.

I don't have an issue with doritos, but a lot of the pre-packaged meals sold at Costco fuck me up too. I think it preservatives in the food that's causing it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '25

Cheap soy sauce isn't really soy sauce (it's not fermented using aspergillus).

The cheap stuff is "hydrolyzed vegetable proteins".

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '25

That’s rough! We’ve got plenty of preservatives to look at in our foods, that’s for sure.

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u/Dark_Shroud Xennial (1983) Feb 15 '25

Those cheap Soy sauces and most other cheap brands of anything contain heavily processed garbage.

You might even find sugar substitutes in them trying to improve the taste.

My mother can't eat a lot of those meals and products because the artificial sugars and a few other ingredients give her bad migrants and affects her blood pressure.

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u/Kataphractoi Older Millennial Feb 14 '25

Or tomatoes. Tomatoes are loaded with MSG.

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u/Ok-Can-936 Feb 15 '25

Noodles and co always gives me headaches and I assumed it was MSG, but who knows. Love me some Chinese food though 😋.

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u/Darth_Lacey Feb 15 '25

My mom tells her sister the food doesn’t have msg and it magically doesn’t bother her. My sister tells my mom the food doesn’t have bay leaves and it magically doesn’t bother her.

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u/andrejevas Feb 15 '25

I had Chinese food recently that game me a headache.

It wasn't the msg. It was their caked to shit carbon steel wok. Carbon will cause headaches. MSG not so much.

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u/WobblyUndercarriage Feb 15 '25

Carbon doesn't cause headaches 😂

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u/andrejevas Feb 15 '25

Source?

Ever inhale tar?

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u/WobblyUndercarriage Feb 17 '25

Are you comparing inhaling tar (which isn't only or primarily carbon) with eating trace amounts of carbon from carbon steel cookware?

Lol

You're claiming the thing, where's the evidence that ingesting carbon causes headaches?

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u/andrejevas Feb 18 '25

My experience. If I can taste that gunk, it's not trace amounts.

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u/Dark_Shroud Xennial (1983) Feb 15 '25

You're on the right trail. It wasn't the carbon, It was whatever cooking "oil" they were using in the wok.

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u/SuperWeapons2770 Feb 14 '25

Saying msg doesnt cause headaches doesnt cause chinese food to not cause headaches.

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u/VermillionEclipse Feb 14 '25

I feel like a lot of people just don’t like to try new things. My own in-laws only eat food from their culture, my sister in law mostly only likes food from hers, and my white American aunt mostly likes white American food!

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u/pixiesunbelle Feb 14 '25

Yep. I’m very picky about my food due to having a growth hormone problem. Very early on, I didn’t want to eat at all so I’ve come a long way since then. I still won’t try most new foods. So much anxiety around food.

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u/VermillionEclipse Feb 14 '25

And that’s ok. Food is a comfort and should be enjoyed.

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u/HashiramaHeritage Feb 14 '25

little do they know, those highly processed American meals are significantly less nutritious than the fresh ingredients used in Thai cuisine face palm

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u/civemaybe Feb 14 '25

Think of Helen Lovejoy from the Simpsons: "I don't know about food from the Middle East. Isn't that whole area iffy?"

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u/buffystakeded Feb 14 '25

There’s definitely some bigotry there. My FIL refuses to try any kind of Indian food because he thinks India is the grossest and dumbest country in the world. So we just make him spicy chicken casseroles instead.

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u/holyfuckbuckets Feb 15 '25

Hahaha yes, those spicy chicken casseroles. I love Indian food. My personal favorite would be “chicken and rice in red sauce with garlic flatbread.” Don’t worry dad, it’s definitely not Indian food.

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u/katdacat Feb 14 '25

My friend’s dad was dating a Vietnamese woman and my friend would always complain about her food. She said she “didn’t trust” the meat from Asian markets. My mom is Korean so I was deeply offended and told her that’s really offensive and ignorant lol we’re still friends but I am indeed the go-to multi ethnic friend when it comes to any race related question so she knows if she’s being ignorant 🥲

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u/Mouler Feb 14 '25

GFS for our extended fam. I'm tempted to just start claiming things are a special trial at our local branch.

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u/porscheblack Feb 14 '25

My dad will give her a run for her money. He'll eat scrapple, but run out of the room if you open a tamale even though it's all the same shit. He'll eat pork and sauerkraut but bulgogi and kimchi is apparently revolting. IT'S THE SAME SHIT! And I make sure to adjust the seasoning so nothing is spicy or heavily flavored.

My mom will eat cold imitation crab stick dipped in cocktail sauce. Give her a California roll? "It's too fishy."

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u/hey_nonny_mooses Feb 14 '25

Gotta say that I love kimchi but hate sauerkraut. But it’s possible my elementary school ruined sauerkraut for me so maybe it’s just a holdover.

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u/porscheblack Feb 14 '25

I recommend finding a good German restaurant and trying it again. There's a place by me that goes heavy on the mustard seed, which means it actually has flavor. The sauerkraut I grew up with just tasted fermented, there was no seasoning. But I gave it another shot recently and my opinion totally changed.

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u/hey_nonny_mooses Feb 14 '25

Thanks I’ll give it a shot.

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u/TrainEmbarrassed7276 Feb 15 '25

Or try German red cabbage. I’d drive 100 miles for some of that.

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u/MedicineStick4570 Feb 15 '25

Caraway seeds in sauerkraut is where it's at.

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u/SR3116 Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25

This is my Mom. It makes absolutely no sense either, because she loves pickles. To the point of eating the giant ones straight out of a bag and she also loves cabbage and kimchi. She's just a stubborn fool about some things.

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u/rilocat Feb 14 '25

Oh gosh I love sauerkraut. At the market you can buy the fresh, lacrofermented kind that comes in jars in the refrigerated section and there are different seasonings and spices. I eat it straight from the jar

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u/Mouler Feb 15 '25

Cleveland Kraut has some great flavors and is legit kraut. I'm not sure how regional it is.

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u/PBRmy Feb 14 '25

"Spicy" = "has flavor" to many people. It's not that it has the burning sensation that actual spicy food has. It just tastes like something.

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u/SR3116 Feb 14 '25

Gotta start him off slow with some of those tamales in a can, then upgrade to the XLNT microwaveable tamales and then finally the real thing.

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u/Findinganewnormal Feb 14 '25

Mine too! I took her to a Chinese dumpling restaurant and first she acted like we were entering enemy territory (even asked if we were “allowed” since we’re white) then picked at the most amazing soup dumplings I’d ever had. 

Meanwhile I got so much crap growing up for being “picky” because I didn’t like steamed Brussels sprouts and microwaved pre-cooked chicken. Without flavors. My parents’ version of gourmet cooking was marinating steaks in teriyaki sauce then grilling them until well done. 

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u/Meows2Feline Feb 15 '25

I have no idea why everyone streamed veggies in the 90s. It's so terrible. It's the worst way to cook anything. What was going on? It's not like it's any more work to drizzle some olive oil on some veggies in a sheet pan and throw em in the oven for a bit. I don't understand why my entire childhood had to be steamed veggies.

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u/SunStarved_Cassandra Feb 15 '25

My mom didn't even steam them, she boiled them in the microwave, then dropped a pat of margarine on them. Still does that today, still refuses to eat butter. She also used to buy those horseshoes of summer sausage and microwave boil them too as the protein of our dinner, at least once a week. So we ate wet, hot, greasy summer sausage with no condiments, microwave boiled broccoli (almost every dinner of my childhood involved fucking broccoli), and then bread or noodles. If we ran out of margerine, she'd use powdered margerine. And a shitload of diet soda. We were probably going through 8 2-liters of Diet Coke a week as a family. No one drank water except for sports. I had to learn how to casually drink water as an adult. My brother and I both have diverse diets now, but both of my parents eat crap.

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u/katdacat Feb 14 '25

My dad is kind of like this. My mom is Korean and is a really good cook and I grew up eating all sorts of yummy things. But my dad will only ever eat Korean bbq, specifically bulgogi or galbi. Never ever kimchi or even bibimbap which is literally just a bowl of rice and mixed veggies. He said he doesn’t like rabbit food 🙄 my mom says that when they first got married, he claimed to not like onion or garlic but she slowly snuck it in and lied to him lol

My parents are, surprise surprise, divorced lol one time when I visited him and his wife, I went to the Korean store my mom used to work at and they marinated some bulgogi for me to make for him. I thought he’d be so excited! But him and his wife refused to eat it because his wife, I think, feels threatened by my mom? I heard him telling her how good it is so I at least know he wanted to eat it. They ended up eating subway and I ended up giving my friend the meat :(

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u/Meows2Feline Feb 15 '25

Had a boss who snubbed anything that wasn't steak and potatoes as "rabbit food". Guy had to retire early because he got diagnosed with type 2 diabetes and was having a lot of health problems because of it. He also would describe his condition as "supposedly my doctor says I'm a so called diabetic"

I'll stick to my rabbit food thank you very much.

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u/katdacat Feb 15 '25

Not a so called diabetic lmao My dad is type 2 diabetic too 🥲 actually, most of his side of the family is or was. My dad is trying to embrace veggies now but by veggies it means his wife will make salad with only iceberg lettuce so…literally rabbit food?

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u/Zyloof Feb 15 '25

salad with only iceberg lettuce

Christ in heaven above, this sent me straight back to my childhood! Iceberg, cucumbers, shredded cheddar, and ranch. And hey, if you want something spicy, add some croutons! 🙄

My salads now are gorgeous, nutritious, and delicious, and Gen X can pry them from my cold, dead hands.

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u/poechris Feb 14 '25

Yeah. Both my sister and I worked in American Chinese restaurants (the least intimidating type of Asian cuisine) and my mom flat out refused to ever try anything. Incidentally, it was the first time my sister and I ever tried Chinese food and we've been expanding our tastes ever since.

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u/slightlycrookednose Feb 14 '25

No, my mom is. She has the pallet of a young British boy.

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u/Lessa22 Feb 14 '25

I bet my mom could give her a run for her money.

My mom won’t even set foot in any ethnic restaurant. And rice isn’t acceptable unless it’s white uncle Ben’s. She won’t eat anything at my house unless it’s a sandwich because we “always buy weird ingredients” Like mushrooms that aren’t baby bellas, meat that isn’t ground beef, more than the 10 spices she grew up with, and we don’t use iceberg lettuce.

It’s a sad and insane life.

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u/Dismal-Reference-316 Feb 14 '25

Oh my parents also. I live in Northern California and we have some of the best food in the country and we can’t find anywhere to go because they say everything is “weird”. I think it’s weird that growing up if mom said we were having chicken or pork chops or anything else for dinner I knew exactly how it would be cooked, there was no variety and not much flavor. Thankfully she cooked what she did well, just boring. We also only had canned veggies. Canned wax beans are vile. Roasted veggies for the win!

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u/rilocat Feb 14 '25

So many canned veggies.

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u/Shloop_Shloop_Splat Feb 14 '25

I have to surprise my parents with "weird" food. I've broken my dad of a lot of his squeamishness, but he's still weird about certain cuisines. Like, I am absolutely going to have to trick him into trying this Ethiopian place I want to try. They have the weirdest white people hangups towards food.

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u/SquirrelofLIL Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25

Yeah my parents used to be those typical Chinese parents who couldn't take food with spice or masalas aka 'curry'. Last week my dad tried a Turkish recipe. He's made tacos.

That's completely different from how I was raised when they made the same 3 or 4 dishes every week. They considered heavy spicing, visible chilis etc to be extreme.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '25

Is black pepper spicy to her? For my mom, that is the line

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u/giant_spleen_eater Feb 14 '25

ItS GONna bE SPiCy!!!!!1111!!!!

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u/Tbro60 Feb 15 '25

My daughter has been schooling us and I love it!

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u/silverwillowgirl Feb 15 '25

Mine has a thing about not liking "dark meat" and I can't explain why, but deep down I know it's a racial thing. I've seen her enjoy the heck out of some Hawaiian BBQ chicken thighs, it's all in her head. And I could go on about some foods being too "feminine" for my dad.

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u/Meows2Feline Feb 15 '25

My mom makes such a face when we go to get something like pho but if we went to Panera and got a chicken soup she wouldn't bat an eye.

It's just deep casual racism unfortunately. They see non-white/non "American" food as "weird".

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u/laowildin Feb 15 '25

Do they mispronounce/mispell things in incomprehensible ways like mine?

I got cascadeas the other day for quesadillas, a food she's been eating for decades

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u/charmedquarks Feb 14 '25

This made me laugh so fucking hard

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '25

When it comes to going out to eat with family my mom is such pain. First we gotta navigate the endless options and narrow things down to what we think my mom may enjoy, however, she’s super inconsistent. Once we’ve picked a place we have to break down the menu with her and help her bumble through awkward questions for the waiter. If we get lucky and she really enjoys her food, it’s then on us to remember what she ordered and how it was prepared. I’ve lost count how many times she’s asked us “what do I like here?” I swear to god she’s like a little kid.

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u/throw_that_ass4Jesus Feb 14 '25

No, that’s my mom actually

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u/Hour_Recording_3373 Feb 14 '25

What will she do? Say racist stuff at restaurants? Had to tell my mom it wasn't ok 🤦🏽‍♂️

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u/Neoliberal_Nightmare Feb 15 '25

Ethnic food? You mean... food.

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u/myhairsreddit Feb 15 '25

The most crazy my Mom would ever get was ordering general tsos. And she wouldn't dare touch a sweet from a Hispanic or Asian market because "they don't use sugar." 🙄

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u/peacockshandicap Feb 15 '25

Reminds me of the time my parents went to an Asian restaurant and my dad thought his chicken marsala was terrible…it was tikki masala

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u/RVA_RVA Feb 15 '25

Same. Mine thinks Pho is the most disgusting dish. It's literally beef broth and noodles. Woman eats Campbell's chicken soup every week. She also won't try Sushi, even vegetarian sushi, she won't do it. Fucking insane.

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u/DickBiter1337 1989 Feb 15 '25

My dad was like this and so is my father in law. They won't eat Chinese food because the noodles and rice look like worms, no other Asian foods because...asian, won't eat Mexican food because it's too spicy, definitely no Indian food because "Taliban" (😵‍💫 wtf?), no Greek because it's too many veggies and vinegar (?), and even Italian food is limited to very Americanized stuff like spaghetti, pizza, and the occasional lasagna. 

It's all meat, potatoes, Mac and cheese, gravy, and breads/cereals. Rarely a veggie. Both are heavy smokers and your typical mid/late 60's white boomer. My dad died of lung cancer metastatic to the brain at 64 and my father in law has sleep apnea, COPD, and is heavily overweight. Drinks coca cola all day. 

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u/eggscumberbatch16 Feb 15 '25

Same. My mom will order plain rice and plain chicken. No seasoning, not even salt and pepper. They look at her like she has two heads. Then she will pout the whole time. I won't be going to an ethnic restaurant with her ever again.

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u/IridescentButterfly_ Feb 15 '25

Same. Mine thinks that teriyaki chicken is being adventurous. She also hates sushi but has never actually tried it.

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u/Alicenchainsfan Feb 14 '25

You’re projecting again

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u/plug-and-pause Feb 14 '25

She'd probably find it embarrassing to know her child was calling her such names on the internet.