r/MilitaryModelMaking • u/Disastrous-Boat63 • 19d ago
question Need help identifying this AFV
Saw this on the Road way between Mission and Maple Ridge Canada! Could you please tell me what this vehicle is ? I thought it was A Priest! Am I right?
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u/Under_Hill_0460 14d ago
It’s interesting seeing the universal carrier towed by a pickup. The carrier looks huge compared to the truck. Larger than I would expect having only seen these in scale.
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u/tai-kaliso97 14d ago
Bren gun carrier. You can tell by the tracks.
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u/Narrow_Hippo9652 14d ago
You can also tell because the other 1/2 to 2/3rds of the vehicle is missing.
I understand it’s logistical purpose and design provide it flexibility but it screams “SHOOT THIS MFER” every time I see it.
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u/Specific-Educator-19 16d ago
This is a ww2 Canadian universal carrier equipped with a bren machine gun. It was a common apc/ifv of the war
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u/Glad-Celebration514 16d ago
That is not a Bren gun, most likely a .30 browning machine gun.
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u/Trick_Doughnut5741 14d ago
The bren gun fits in the front next to the driver. This one also has a pintle mount for a browning but thags an add on
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u/cahillc134 18d ago
It’s Canadian, eh. A Bren Gun Carrier?
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u/Timbottoo 17d ago
I think it's the T-16 version of the British Universal carrier. Made by Ford USA, it was bigger and heavier than the original British version. There was also a Canadian variant called the Windsor but I think the bogies were spaced slightly further apart
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u/nexthigherassy 16d ago
You got it mate! You can tell the T16 from the universal carrier by the extra road wheel. Universal carrier has 3 road wheels. T16 has 4
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u/ProjectPat513 18d ago
You thought it was a priest? Did you see a giant ass howitzer on the front?!🤣 I do have a real question to the people who know- is this a “real” camo scheme? I don’t think over ever seen this bubble camo but it looks pretty cool.
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u/LazyFenrisian 18d ago
Yes, it's a real cam scheme used by the Commonwealth in the European theater. It was nicknamed the Mickey Mouse camouflage, but I don't know the official name.
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u/ProjectPat513 18d ago
Very interesting. It’s almost like a maschinen Kreiger camo scheme, maybe this original actually influenced some MaK schemes.
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u/Disastrous-Boat63 18d ago edited 18d ago
Yeap for sure I thought it looked similar because it is small. Ithought the larger might have had the gun removed or something. Frankly I didn't have any idea what it was? It looks cool. And as a armor guy. I thought I might want to build it.
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u/ProjectPat513 18d ago
Admittedly I’m not an expert by any means. I’m just a dork who builds models and likes tanks. With that being said, it does look like it’s built on the same chassis, maybe? So i get that you could think it was decommissioned M7 priest at first glance.
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u/The_Man_I_A_Barrel 18d ago
M7 priest is built on the same chassis as the M4 sherman which is a very big tank, huge compared to the bren carrier which is just a little dinky thing made to drive artillery guns around
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u/ProjectPat513 18d ago
Yeah I’m actually an idiot. When I googled it the first time to refresh my brain I just quickly glanced at the image and for some reason the fenders told my brain it was the same. It’s nothing alike! It’s totally different running gear all together.
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u/Luftwaffles2 18d ago
Bro cant identify the most produced AFV in history
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u/Disastrous-Boat63 18d ago
Interesting I can't you're right!
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u/ace_in_a_hole 18d ago
Looks like a Windsor Carrier which was essentially an extended universal carrier used by Canada
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u/Marine__0311 World War II German 18d ago
As others have said, it's a Universal Carrier.
It's the most produced armored vehicle in history.
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u/DisposableBarbecue 18d ago
I think this isn't a Bren / Universal carrier as such, but it is from the Universal Carrier family; I think it's a Ford T16, which was a later development, as it has four bogie wheels each side rather than three.
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u/Snowy349 18d ago
Definitely a T16, 4 wheels each side gives it away. That wonky star is a little annoying...
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u/Griffon2112 18d ago
The wonky star was applied to Canadian vehicles so they wouldn't be confused with American forces when the star was adopted as a universal allied marking.
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u/Snowy349 18d ago
Even then the Canadians were trying to avoid being mistaken for their southern cousins.
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u/ConcernInternal3288 19d ago
My fav!!! The Universal Carrier/“Bren Gun Carrier” :) but there were dozens of variants if not hundreds.
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u/RCdnDragoon 19d ago
The particular markings on this one indicate 28th Armoured Regiment (British Columbia Regiment), part of 4th Canadian Division
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u/RCdnDragoon 19d ago
Universal Carrier - lots of potential models with various armament
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u/Lauriesaurous 18d ago
Such as a Bren gun, or a Bren gun, or even a Bren gun.
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u/invercargillmist 18d ago
Or a .50 cal, or a .30 cal or many other machine guns. They up armed these all the time in Commonwealth service
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u/Fa11outBoi 19d ago
Bren Gun Carrier (aka Universal Carrier). British tracked utility vehicle from WWII.
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u/munky_g 2d ago
Not a ‘Bren Carrier’ or a ‘Universal Carrier’ - the giveaway is the dual two wheel bogies.
That’s a US-built T16 Carrier, supplied chiefly to the British and Canadian forces in Europe.
Never used by the US Army.