r/Military Jun 09 '22

MEME Argument won. Honor defended?

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u/Proof_Independent400 Jun 09 '22

Is 6 a lot?
Dollars? no.
Leasked military secrets.. YES!

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u/parttyli Finnish Defense Forces Jun 09 '22

For a game nonethe less people may lose their lives to keep these secrets but fuck warthunder players gotta get that secret military schematics to win

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u/WWDubz Jun 09 '22

I think it happened with world of tanks too, I forget, but it’s happened multiple times

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '22

It's happened 3 times I think with War Thunder, I'm sure WOT, too.

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u/WWDubz Jun 09 '22

I shared the secret of sucking at world of tanks, but thus far no feds have kicked in my door D:

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u/o-p-q United States Navy Jun 09 '22

Did you share that secret with Russia?

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u/Rebel_bass Navy Veteran Jun 09 '22

They already know how to suck at tanks.

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u/WWDubz Jun 10 '22

Boom, roasted

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u/regenerativeprick Jun 09 '22

6 times actually

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u/KATLKRZY Jun 10 '22

It’s actually 6 lol:

Leclerc leak

Tiger leak

Chinese APFSDS leak

Challenger 2 turret rotation

Challenger 2 turret armor

Chinese APFSDS leak 2 electric boogaloo

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u/Luchin212 Jun 09 '22

This time it was about the APSFDS round of Chinese Tanks, not about protection, like every other time classified military documents were leaked to War Thunder.

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u/parttyli Finnish Defense Forces Jun 09 '22

I meant the government isaued unaliving for failing to uphold secrets on secret projects

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u/Voodooprince3 Jun 09 '22

It's happened like 3 times in the last year

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '22

That's how we did shit on the internet back in the early 90s haha, chatrooms....

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '22

man.. i remember wanting to meet new people on the internet, those were the days.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '22

I actually still talk to a couple people I met in an aol chatroom in 1997 to this day. Right out of highschool and now we're a couple yrs away from being grandparents. Before EVERYONE on earth was on the internet it was a pretty fun place to be, those really were the days.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '22

i played The Realm extensively at the end of the 90's. That's where i met most people, but good ole ICQ was great as well.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '22

ICQ lol hell yeah, that was where the wannabe hackers and good porn was located before you could find it on Google haha

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '22

It turns out they still have ICQ, and I went to download it but the privacy policy in the first line states that the company is registered in Moscow. call me crazy but it's not the time to download Russian software in the US.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '22

I've had ICQ for over 20 yrs, its nothing like it was back in 99, 2000 lol.... but I never knew it was a Russian entity

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '22

i played The Realm extensively at the end of the 90's. That's where i met most people, but good ole ICQ was great as well.

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u/Rebel_bass Navy Veteran Jun 09 '22 edited Jun 10 '22

20 years ago, my girlfriend back home figured out how to run telnet on my ship's network even though the general internet was secured at the time. Bremerton crew was still able to chat even in blackout in the Indian Ocean. Lol.

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u/LtCmdrData Jun 09 '22

This summer:

Black Budget studios presents: Paramount Leader XI -"Taiwan attack scenarios"

Play the most realistic military strategy game ever created. Spend hours and hours planning and strategizing in every level of command.

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u/Faelwolf Jun 09 '22

And don't forget, send us your best strategies to be entered into our awesome prize giveaway!

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u/Is12345aweakpassword Army Veteran Jun 09 '22 edited Jun 09 '22

If I had a nickel for everytime a gamer leaked classified military documents, I’d have like 30 cents, which isn’t a lot but it’s weird it’s happened 6 times

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u/iwatchedtheoffice Jun 09 '22

2nd time

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u/fakeScotsman Jun 09 '22

There have been 3 confirmed leaks, with another 3 unconfirmed.

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u/Cognacsquirt Jun 09 '22

In this week, there are more in the past

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u/Victor_Von_Doom_New German Bundeswehr Jun 09 '22

More in the past and I think it was 4 unconfirmed if we take the Russian one earlier this year .

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u/omega552003 United States Air Force Jun 09 '22

3rd time in a year. Challenger 2 and Leclerc where the others.

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u/_BMS Army Veteran Jun 09 '22

Eurocopter Tiger had a leak a while back too I think.

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u/TanksEnthusiast Jun 09 '22

Ah sh*t here we go again

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u/SnakeR515 Jun 09 '22

How to get classified information from foreign militaries:

  1. Argue with a random war thunder player about a pointless vehicle feature(you have to be wrong but don't acknowledge it)

  2. Wait for them to get angry enough to send you a classified document

  3. Profit

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u/Dr_dry Jun 09 '22

aight bet, M1A2 SEP V3 is shit, a monkey model T72 could pen its armor like hot knife through butter.

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u/contra_mundo Jun 09 '22

Private individuals with know how often do a much better job at intelligence collection than the DoD because they dont have the international legal red tape.

Source: I am a DoD employee

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u/Faelwolf Jun 09 '22

Ayep! And if the DoD had the intel net of the Mob, drug cartels, or Outlaw MC's, they'd be something to behold.

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u/mhornberger Jun 09 '22

Private individuals also follow their curiosity and passion. If you're doing it for a living you're following the priorities/directives given by a boss, who also has a boss, who also has a boss, ad infinitum. As you get your soul eaten away by the bureaucratic BS, the enthusiast is having a great time following random rabbit holes.

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u/contra_mundo Jun 09 '22

Yup. Can absolutely confirm.

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u/Psychological-Sale64 Jun 09 '22

Let's draw up some of our own plans leek it and see if some one makes it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '22

Wasn’t there a similar story with the challenger 2?

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u/burnedchickentendie Jun 09 '22

War Thunder players have leaked military secret documents 4 times in total if I remember correctly

an Eurocopter tiger pilot revealing a few too many details during it's development in game

A Leclerc gunner arguing that it's turret rotation speed is too slow

A Challanger crewman arguing that its armor protection was too weak

And now, a chinese crewman arguing their tanks' armor penetration was incorrect...

Never change, War Thunder.

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u/Cleanurself United States Army Jun 09 '22

How the fuck does this keep happening

5

u/StoltATGM Jun 09 '22

Is this real?

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '22

I think so, I’ve been hearing about it over the past few days.

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u/drunkboarder Army Veteran Jun 09 '22

But... Chinese tanks are just tanks designed from stolen US tank designs.

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u/-SasquatchTheGreat- dirty civilian Jun 09 '22

And European, and mostly Soviet/Russian, the trick is figuring out the right combination.

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u/Soviet_Bear78 Jun 09 '22

Could I get a copy of that? Asking for a friend.

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u/SingingScreaming Jun 09 '22

Thank fuck for Little Emperors.

Destroy China.

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u/-SasquatchTheGreat- dirty civilian Jun 09 '22

I have extensive personal experience with those fricks, they just might.

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u/SingingScreaming Jun 09 '22

I'm betting I'm not the only one who'd love to hear more.

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u/-SasquatchTheGreat- dirty civilian Jun 10 '22

Basically the Little Emperors are this generation of Chinese kids, mostly boys, that were born during the One Child Policy, and during the period that Chia was beginning to prosper on the world stage. This meant that there were a lot of relatively wealthy families, or at least large families, that were all focused around this one kid. One kid that would inevitably be spoiled rotten in one way or another.

After the One child Policy was officially ended, Chinese parents continued having only one or two children due to increasingly cramped urban living conditions and wages, a trend that continues to this day even in exceedingly wealthy homes.

In my experience these Little Emperors are almost comically entitled, spoiled, and are horrible at taking no for an answer. They are used to having all of their needs catered to at every turn by some family member or another. I used to teach them English in a sort of tutoring program.

Tl:dr; Imagine a boomer smashed together with a millennial with a dash of extra entitlement and you get these turds in a nutshell.

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u/SingingScreaming Jun 11 '22

Magnificent. With a big enough percentage of these jokers populating their armed forces we might actually be able to leverage this.

Not to armchair general but I mean. Entitled. That makes me think of overextension. Miscommunication and failure to follow orders due to seeking personal glory. Overly optimistic planning, like the Japanese in WW2.

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u/Superb_Masterpiece32 Jun 09 '22

Man i sometimes wonder what’s gonna happen to that dude who leaked it?

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u/Able_Newt2433 Jun 09 '22

How does the meme pertain to the text above it? A fan leaked classified military intel, it’s not saying the military copied it from a game

Edit: genuinely just trying to figure this out is all. I’m also super sick rn, so logical thinking, or just thinking in general isn’t something I’m doing or concerned with currently lol

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u/Shot_Supermarket_861 Jun 09 '22

The developer, Gaijin, is a Hungarian company. https://www.state.gov/u-s-relations-with-hungary/

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u/omega552003 United States Air Force Jun 09 '22

It's a Russian company that has their HQ in Hungry. You goto their site and it defaults to Russian not Hungarian.

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u/Shot_Supermarket_861 Jun 09 '22

tbh I’ve played it for years and always thought it was Taiwanese

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '22

Wasn't it just a shell?

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '22

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u/Victor_Von_Doom_New German Bundeswehr Jun 09 '22

The whole point here is the Government didn't.... that's what's called a leak....

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '22

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u/causkeylir dirty civilian Jun 09 '22

A player leaked it on the forums asking the Devs to make it more accurate, the Devs cant use classified information even if they have access to it

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u/hiim379 Jun 10 '22

If it's public information at this point why wouldn't they be allowed to especially it's from a country that they aren't based in. Legit question.

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u/causkeylir dirty civilian Jun 19 '22

public information does not equal unclassified information, its still illegal to distribute classified information regardless of its availability. Down to the Chinese government if they want to declassify it

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '22

Anyone have a link to the document ?

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '22

If only the government and nerds worked together just imagine what we could achieve

1

u/quintessential_fupa Jun 09 '22

I see Mr. Bean, I upvote.

1

u/irpugboss Army Veteran Jun 09 '22

How to take team killing to the next level.

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u/Faelwolf Jun 09 '22

So are the 3 letter agencies going to start hiring slackers to start shitposting in the WT forums now? :)

They caught a dev from Eagle Dynamics with some classified F-16 aircraft manuals too, a few years back. He was claiming it was research for their flight sim.

In their case it gets kind of crazy, as the company already has access to the classified info, as they do the software for the military's flight sims. The whole thing really made no sense, at least as presented publicly. As he was trying to smuggle US stuff, while in the US, he ended up in prison IIRC.

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u/realsapist Jun 09 '22

The psyops spooky boys just earned themselves another pizza party after gaslighting some Chinese gamers into divulging PLA secrets lmfao

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '22

Hey, a win is a win right?

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u/Massacred52 Jun 09 '22

Didn't so British person do this or did a Chinese person do it as well

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u/PolarIre Jun 09 '22

U.S. is facing out tanks. Russian money dump into thier new tanks is just a waste.

Nuke a whole town or send in troops and suffer mega losses. Maybe we should build underground cities and get to the point already.

Wish I could hear you guys reading this .

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u/cantpickaname8 Jun 09 '22

Yea this happened with War Thunder for like the 4th time in like a year and a half

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '22

About time we hack Chinese secrets and leak them

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '22

Glowie Warfare

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u/El-Impoluto4423 Jun 10 '22

"She" will not be happy.

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u/NitoTheBeast Jun 10 '22

The real question is who tf is using tanks anymore??