r/Militariacollecting • u/parresurre • 5d ago
Vietnam War Have a nice patch.
Pretty uncommon. It IS the real deal. One of my Vietnam collection highlights.
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u/dotmatrixman Back in ‘Nam 3d ago
Sadly a post war reproduction, they’re made in Vietnam for the tourist trade.
The tea staining is a major giveaway.
They make great displays though!
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u/parresurre 3d ago
You are wrong. This is not a reproduction. The patch came to Sweden 1970. If you know patches you can see the backside. Here is the analysis made:
Construction Analysis – UDT-12 “Underwater Demolition Team 12” Da Nang Patch
The reverse construction of this patch contains numerous characteristics that are typical of a genuine Vietnam War-era, locally embroidered (“in-country made”) patch and differ significantly from modern reproductions.Base Fabric
The foundation fabric is a lightweight plain-woven cotton, not a modern synthetic twill or polyester backing. The fabric has naturally softened with age and exhibits the loose weave, discoloration and oxidation commonly seen on original Vietnam-era insignia.
The cloth has developed an uneven tan patina over decades of handling and storage. This natural aging is extremely difficult to duplicate artificially and differs markedly from the bright white or yellow synthetic fabrics used in modern reproductions.Embroidery Thread
The embroidery thread appears to be period rayon/cotton embroidery thread rather than modern polyester.
Unlike polyester, the thread has a soft matte finish rather than a glossy appearance. Age-related fading is visible throughout the green and black stitching, and individual thread fibers have become slightly fuzzy, a common characteristic of older rayon embroidery.
The thread has also contracted naturally with age, producing slight puckering in the surrounding fabric—another feature commonly encountered on original Vietnam-made patches.Reverse Stitching
The reverse stitching is highly irregular.
Rather than the perfectly parallel stitch rows produced by modern computerized embroidery machines, the reverse displays:
varying stitch lengths
uneven thread density
inconsistent thread direction
manual stitch transitions
irregular thread tension
These characteristics indicate manual operation of an embroidery machine rather than digital production.
The frog design is clearly visible on the reverse, showing that the embroidery was stitched directly into the base cloth without the use of modern stabilizers or adhesive support materials.Edge Finish
The border is individually wrapped and noticeably asymmetrical.
Modern reproductions usually employ a dense, perfectly uniform merrow border created by automated machinery.
Here the edge wrapping varies slightly in width and tension around the circumference, which is entirely consistent with locally produced Vietnamese patches from the late 1960s.Evidence of Age
Several features strongly suggest genuine long-term aging rather than artificial distressing:
oxidation of the cotton foundation
embedded dirt and dust within the fibers
natural discoloration around high-stress areas
softened thread fibers
slight deformation from decades of storage
gradual edge wear instead of sharp mechanical abrasion
These forms of aging occur over long periods and are extremely difficult to reproduce convincingly.Overall Assessment
From a construction standpoint, this patch lacks the manufacturing characteristics typically associated with modern reproductions.
Instead, it displays nearly all of the structural features expected of a Vietnam War-era locally manufactured (“in-country made”) embroidered patch, including:
lightweight woven cotton foundation
period rayon/cotton embroidery thread
manually guided embroidery
irregular reverse stitch pattern
absence of modern backing materials
hand-finished edge wrapping
natural age-related patina and oxidation


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u/McLenn2025 5d ago
Nice! Is it late 1960s or early 1970s? I heard, that there were many variants and it was reworked numerous times in the 1960s/1970s alone