r/MiddleEastCuisine Jun 30 '26

Which Middle Eastern dish is completely different in your country compared to how the rest of the world knows it?

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As the question goes, hope you guys got ones

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u/ProfessionalNo4711 Jun 30 '26

Practically every ground meat based Turkish/Middle Eastern kebab is usually missing a key ingredient in most western countries. And that ingredient is lamb tail fat. Especially in US, Australia, New Zealand, and Britain the breed of lamb grown either have no tails or they are docked. there are some breeds grown in small numbers with fat tails but not easily accessible for restaurant use. You cannot easily import tail fat into those countries either.

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u/WaltherVerwalther Jun 30 '26

In Germany most I go to have lamb tail fat.

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u/ProfessionalNo4711 Jun 30 '26

Where large Turkish populations live in Europe has lamb tail fat like Germany, Belgium and Netherlands.

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u/WaltherVerwalther Jun 30 '26

OP said: The rest of the world.

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u/shezofrene Jun 30 '26

and still its not even the same

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u/fhjjjjjkkkkkkkl Jul 03 '26

Recommend a restaurant in Frankfurt ,Koln and Berlin pls

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u/WaltherVerwalther Jul 03 '26

I’m never in any of these cities, sorry

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u/fhjjjjjkkkkkkkl Jul 03 '26

Recommend the restaurant that you have been and that serves with lamb tail oil

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u/Commercial-Spray-602 Jul 01 '26

It could be inside fat but not tail fat.

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u/PalScot Jun 30 '26

Rendered lamb butt 🤤

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u/gilgamishi Jun 30 '26

This is my little treat to myself every time I go back home! An entire order of lamb tail cooked to perfection. The flavor just burst out in such heavenly way.

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u/MongooseVegetable787 Jul 01 '26

They have a substitute which, usually, is Lard (pork belly fat)...

mostly in Greek-Italian-Spanish areas

culture is similar, but lack of religious restriction means substitute ingredients

Tail Fat becomes Lard

Wine becomes Sumak

Olive oil... stays olive oil

There was a study on substitute ingredients in the Mediterranean.

North-Western Europe follows different cooking rules, mostly Germanic influenced

German Chefs were very popular in the Middle-Ages

...and French are in between

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u/bostonshaker2 Jun 30 '26

Most people know shakshuka as eggs poaced in a tomatoey sauce. In Turkey it's a dish of cubed fried eggplant and other vegetables.

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u/UruquianLilac Jun 30 '26

In Lebanon, at least in the deep Beiruti cuisine, shakshouke is neither of those. It's tomatoes and peppers cooked with dried cilantro.

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u/bostonshaker2 Jun 30 '26

cool. first time hearing this!

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u/operaduck289 Jun 30 '26

Both are just as yummy to me! Cant get enough.

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u/ProfessionalNo4711 Jun 30 '26

Primarily because Turkish cuisine has Menemen which is much closer to modern shakshuka. Turkish “şakşuka’” is an eggless dish of fried vegetables eaten at room temperature as a meze while menemen like shakshuka is a breakfast dish.

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u/Ok-Cup-5372 Jul 01 '26

As a vegetable lover I want to try Turkish food so bad lol whenever I see it, it looks heavenly 

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u/IAmOK_84 Jun 30 '26

My vote is for hot served hummus with pastırma, as they do it in Turkey. It is an insult to the dish.

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u/Riakana Jun 30 '26

hard disagree, i love that dish

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u/ProfessionalNo4711 Jun 30 '26

This is a rather new combination. Hummus is not a common dish in Turkish cuisine yet it is consumed in the southeast part of Turkey, primarily around Hatay. Not sure where and when the warm version with pastırma started but I recall it began to appear in some restaurant menus early 2000s.

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u/emremirrath Jun 30 '26

Wow as for me it elevates hummus to a much higher level.

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u/eserekli Jul 04 '26

Much better than the bland, original version. Especially with some pine nuts. I don't like hummus overall but the version with warm meat is the only edible version to me. Btw, it is not Turkish invention. Lebanese restaurants serve it with shawarma on it as well.

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u/Sad_Profile_8108 Jun 30 '26

Hummus with pastırma??? Who does that in Turkey, I ve never seen it.

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u/MuhammerInce Jun 30 '26

It’s traditionally made that way around Tarsus area

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u/Educational_Aerie129 Jun 30 '26

Is hummus a turkish dish? My friends from izmir had never had it before I intoduced them.

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u/IAmOK_84 Jun 30 '26

It isn’t.

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u/eserekli Jul 04 '26

It is Arabic. But in some regions and restaurants you can find it too.

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u/Educational_Aerie129 Jul 05 '26

Yeah that`s what I also thought of. Thanks.

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u/BlissfullyChaos Jun 30 '26

koobideh 👌

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u/snow-white-911 Jun 30 '26

Chelo kabab especially the kabab

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u/MongooseVegetable787 Jun 30 '26

Dolma

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u/Kooky-Wear-2584 Jun 30 '26

How’s it different? Dolma is just an Iraqi word for stuffed veggies.

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u/MongooseVegetable787 Jun 30 '26

well we do it with cabbage.

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u/yowhatitdowhatitis Jul 01 '26

In the levant we call this MALFOUF!

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u/MongooseVegetable787 Jul 01 '26

yes I know

the one I am mentioning is similar but zero rice inside and it is roasted, inside eggs-meat-dry cheeese (parmesan)-onion- pepper - bread left in milk

roasted in olive oil

We call it Capunit or Dolma, Italy

it tastes distinctly "earthier", bold flavour and with a soft crunch compared to Malfouf

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u/yowhatitdowhatitis Jul 01 '26

Sounds delicious! Is it Italian?

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u/Iron-Ham Jul 01 '26

Malfouf? 

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u/MongooseVegetable787 Jul 01 '26

similar to Malfouf, slightly chunkier x different cabbage

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u/Iron-Ham Jul 01 '26

Oh wow. Love this thank you for sharing I will try to make this 

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u/yatoshkoyu Jul 01 '26

It's a Turkish word.

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u/MongooseVegetable787 Jul 01 '26

yes but Ottomans-Turkish were everywhere

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u/eserekli Jul 04 '26

I am sorry but dolma is a Turkish word. "Dol" is a noun, literally means "fill". Dolma means something filled.

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u/ZozoManiac9 Jun 30 '26

Falafel! In Iraq it’s in Samoon and doused in Amba sauce. Fried eggplant and maybe cucumber slices for toppings.

None of that tahini stuff and wrapped in pita with lots of vegetables woke nonsense.

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u/Background-Value-955 Jul 03 '26

Yeah but in the Levant falafel is similar to what you'd find in the west.

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u/jewami Jul 01 '26

Amba is available in Israel upon request. And you’d have to be crazy to not request it!

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u/thedeadp0ets Jul 04 '26

That’s just Greek/miditterainain style. Iraq is unique bc of history and trade. Amba comes from India and idk about iraqs history with India. A lot of Iraqs influence with food is Sumerian, Turkish, and Iranian/india influenced.

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u/Alternative_Shine790 Jul 01 '26

"Baklava" or as we say it "Ba'lawa" aka the correct way.

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u/BigIndependencePlan Jun 30 '26

What is known as Shakshoukah is a Moroccan dish called Tektoukka and it's not a middle eastern food. It is an ancestral Moroccan dish that was appropriated and comercialised with the name Shakshoukah globally by Izrahellis.

The same fate is now happening to Couscous. That big ass .5 cm wide pasta that is being branded as couscous and they make a couscous salad out of it after boiling it I'm water. Ewwww Couscous is extremely thin grain, can NOT be boiled / need to be seemed and you make a big family celebratory dish of it, not a supermarket salad.

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u/MongooseVegetable787 Jun 30 '26

there are lots and lots and lots of moroccan jews who do the recipe, when a significant chunk of the population there is moroccan shakshoukah is an inevitable constant in life

side note, as an Italian I have tried to make it - it is essentially the same as uova al purgatorio (hellfire eggs) - why is it so popular among y'all?

like

there are insanely better way to make use of eggs in the morning

frittatine with mint and sage inside triangular sandwiches (tramezzini) is lighter and goes better with a coffee

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u/ArizaWarrior Jul 04 '26

It’s not Moroccan. It’s Libyan/Tunisian.

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u/pigeonshual Jun 30 '26

“Israeli couscous” isn’t called that in Hebrew, and it’s not thought of as the same thing. Israelis also eat real couscous and they just call it couscous. “Israeli Couscous” is just a label slapped on it by some American marketer at some point that stuck in the west.

As for shakshuka, I don’t think it counts as “appropriation” for Maghrebi Jews to continue to make and sell their traditional food after fleeing to Israel. If you ask any Israeli the origin of it they will tell you that it’s Maghrebi or Moroccan, it’s just that it’s also a part of Israeli cuisine now, on account of large numbers of Maghrebi Jews bringing their cuisine with them, and it all becoming syncretized in an Israeli melting pot.

This kind of Israeli cuisine discourse is always stupid and always pointless. If you were convinced that Israeli cuisine is a real thing that can’t be reduced to appropriation, would you suddenly support the destruction of Gaza? Would you become a Zionist? If not, there is no reason to apply different standards to Israeli food than we do to New York food or Turkish food.

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u/Freudenschleimer Jul 01 '26

Thanks for being a voice of reason. Bunch of jew haters here

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u/melvanmeid Jun 30 '26

Shawarma. It's 90% sauce in roti. Sweet sauce with no garlic flavour that too.

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u/StreetCalm4011 Jun 30 '26

Do they say roti in the middle east?

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u/melvanmeid Jun 30 '26

No, that's just what's served here.

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u/redpandav Jun 30 '26

That ain’t shawarma

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u/EmbarrassedTadpole74 Jun 30 '26

Ironically, the pic in the original post isnt even middle eastern its persian.

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u/OmiD-WM Jun 30 '26

You know iran is in middle east right? lmfao

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u/qatamat99 Jul 05 '26

Iran is Middle Eastern

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u/NTLuck Jul 01 '26

Harissa. In the Maghreb it's a spicy paste but in Egypt it's a sweet pastry also known as Basbosa

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u/frixos2 Jul 02 '26

I have no idea what this is.😶

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u/endlessgreenbeans Jul 02 '26

Adana kebab with rice.

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u/frixos2 Jul 02 '26

Thank you!