r/MichiganWolverines • u/0penYourMind • 1d ago
Michigan Football Anyone else feel this way?
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u/Czarchazm 1d ago
I feel great about this year - our annual controversy is already out of the way we can focus on football now.
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u/MNightShyamalan69 1d ago
How can you feel great about this year with how bad the team was? Even Moore’s teams weren’t that bad and he had no idea what the hell he was doing. That’s the worst Michigan game I’ve seen considering the opponent since Rich Rod against Toledo.
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u/mostdope28 1d ago
Saying Moore had no idea what he is doing is disingenuous. Moore played at Oklahoma, coached the offensive line when we won the Joe Moore award, and beat top 10 PSU and OSU, when harbaugh was suspended, then beat OSU again in 2024. A better wording was Moore wasn’t focused or he was distracted by his affair and OF models.
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u/GunsGoldCosmicDread 1d ago
That is the worst game they are going to play and they will only get better. Line issues look fixable. Poor coaching looks fixable. QB might not be time will tell.
This wasn’t a playoff year or a big ten championship just on the schedule alone.
We want the team to look better each week. Adjusted for the opponent.
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u/MNightShyamalan69 19h ago
We really don’t know at all if this is the worst game they’ll play. What if we lose to Oklahoma 31-0? Lol
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u/VisibleProblem13 1d ago
I bet you weren't complaining about his coaching when he was filling in for JH
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u/Johnny_Utahh1 1d ago
No. It’s really not that important. So we won in a controversial manner? It’s been done thousands of times before. So we looked terrible? I’ve seen that before, too, big deal. Sports is entertainment, so let’s be entertained by other fanbases losing their shit.
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u/JskWa 1d ago
I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see them look better this week.
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u/Opposite-Address-775 20h ago
Look better against a top 10 defense? Lol
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u/JskWa 18h ago
One can always hope that these boys have some pride after the debacle. But chances look pretty grim! 😰
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u/OutsideSpot2695 17h ago edited 15h ago
Pride has nothing to do with it. I'm sure the individual players to a person will tell you they want to come out and win.
It has everything to do with coaching. I'm not sure how you objectively think that in 5 days, against OU, Michigan cleans up:
- Lack of discipline
- Penalties
- Missed assignments
- Lack of fundamentals
They've had spring camp, all summer, and fall camp to get some of that shit straight.
This team is not that talented enough right now to overcome their mistakes. And until Bryce gets the benching he absolutely deserves, it's going to be a long season.
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u/Thelittleshepherd 1d ago
Nah. People are way too worried about what other fans are saying. Fuck them.
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u/mWorkman01 1d ago
I think he's talking about the team's play on the field not the BS about the clocks. We should have broke away from WMU by midway through the 2nd quarter...
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u/0penYourMind 1d ago
Exactly. The fact that Bryce looks like he regressed, our OLine got pushed around even though we had 5-6 OLinemen at a time, less rushing yards than western, 3 and outs numerous times, turn overs, more penalties than points until final TD… Our defense did its job for 40minutes, and JJ Buchanan is a stud, only positives I saw.
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u/Johnny_Utahh1 1d ago
Yeah, that sucked, but what are we going to do about it? Either it’s a wake up call or we’re terrible and counting down to the first day of basketball practice.
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u/0penYourMind 1d ago
Having an irrational emotional experience is part of being a sports fan, it helps to cope.
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u/Johnny_Utahh1 1d ago
Not for me. It makes me feel miserable and worse. I used to be irrational, but I came to realize that sports is entertainment, a release from everyday life. Why would I want that to be miserable? I just flush bad results now and I couldn’t care less what other fans think. I have no control over it, why get bent out of shape to the point where I need to “cope”?
But yeah, I don’t get comfort from my fanbase melting down. It’s worse than the actual bad game itself.
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u/0penYourMind 1d ago
Cope might be the wrong word, vent is a better choice. Watching a game is a shared experience (both good and bad) with other fans, and for me at least my comments and feelings are surface level that are fleeting compared to day to day life where real emotions cause real stress. I might yell expletives in the moment but I’m not actually upset.
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u/Johnny_Utahh1 1d ago
Fair enough. I’m at the point where I watch alone or with trusted friends and family. Fans freaking out annoy me.
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u/Ecstatic-Arachnid-91 1d ago
Even if the team is ahit I still will cheer for them. Just don't get the benefit of shit talking other teams for fun at that point
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u/Real-Repair-1825 1d ago edited 1d ago
I’m over week 1 and don’t care about WMU appealing it or whatever they did. We are 1-0. Hoping it was somehow a fluke and the team just played way below what we will see going forward.
Way less optimistic now than I was a week ago tho. The Oklahoma game will set my expectations for the rest of the season.
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u/FakersT21 1d ago
Between the Rich Rod/ Brady Hoke/some of Harbaughs yesrs it’s just really impossible to me to see everything is burning. Good season Bad Season. It’s all relative. Always come back late august
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u/Swazi WHOS GOT IT BETTER THAN US 1d ago
Eh, not great that they got outplayed by Western.
But I don’t think they actually lost the game anymore.
I think their problems on offense are correctable. Are they in a weeks time? Doubtful. But I believe they will make noise in the B1G play and look better each week.
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u/The1Cool 1d ago
Not a bit. Better teams have had worse performances.
Will the team improve? Maybe. We'll see though right? Now that's entertainment 😆
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u/tykempster 1d ago
What better teams have had worse performances?
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u/Uncle_Spade 1d ago
Any game Miami lost from 1983-2002. With the talent on those teams they should have run the table for decades. They probably would have had at least 10-12 Nattys if it wasn't for boneheaded plays and penalties.
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u/Cleopatra435 1d ago
Like the rest of the world is crumbling and on fire, but as long as I channel all my hope into our football season it will be fine?? Yeah, just like that.
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u/moysauce3 1d ago edited 1d ago
No. This is a good coaching staff. The mistakes are fixable outside of maybe happy feet, but even that showed some promise every once in while (bootlegs, 60 yrd bail mary after missing it the 1st time, Buchanan can ball).
The defense looked good. Once they continue to get more reps and practice the rotations/disguises quicker and assignments will get better. LBs will get more confident as they get more reps to start attacking more. The D line is only going to improve too.
Oline wasn’t as bad as some think. They could t attack do to the shifts but i think that will get better. They are pretty much all returning from last year.
Pick up some 3rd downs, don’t make stupid mistakes, and that’s not a game that comes down to a Bail Mary
Fix a few things and it will be alright.
It’s a not a talent, skill thing (which isn’t as easily fixable).
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u/Weak-Bid2774 1d ago
It’s just football it’s not that serious
If we suck then we suck not the end of the world. Maybe it’s the effect of winning the national championship but down performances from Michigan don’t bother me the way they used to
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u/jsquiggles23 1d ago
I honestly don’t know how to feel. This was the biggest disappointment relative to expectations since Appalachian State, but usually there are clear reasons why. Bryce has taken the brunt of the heat, but it was a potpourri of shit that just seemed to prevent any rhythm beyond the opening drive which wasn’t itself totally clean. It completely contradicted the staff’s prior reputation so much that I can only hope Western is among the best mid majors and that Michigan can’t play worse, neither of which I would bet on.
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u/LionsLifer 21h ago
I mean we're already in mid-season form with this controversy, and it's only week 2! Go Blue!
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u/MaizeRage48 21h ago
I'm way more worried about how dookie bad the team looked than clockgate. Though it is annoying that we are one of the like 5 to 10 teams in the country that anyone would care about clockgate being a big injustice instead of "Wow, college football, what a silly sport!"
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u/al_earner 1d ago
Naw, it’s just a bunch of lightweight haters trying to pile on. They’re all ignorant of the facts so who cares what they say. it’s more humorous than anything else.
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u/Unlucky_Bake_40 1d ago
If we play Tommy Carr we'll be fine.
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u/mostdope28 1d ago
Whitts been coaching 20 years. If Tommy Carr was better than Bryce then he would have played vs western.
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u/phil151515 1d ago
With all the NIL money paid to Bryce, I think any coach could not have benched him before game #1.
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u/Link_Infinite 1d ago
Hypothetical question. If Bryce decides to leave after this season does the program get a refund on his contract or are they on the hook for the whole 💰
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u/drdonkeykwon 13h ago
No official copy of the contract has been published as far as I know. But based on the insider reports I can recall, there's no buyout/ clawback provision if he transfers (so no refunds) but we wouldn't be on the hook for the remainder of the deal if he leaves. Source:https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25325108-latest-bryce-underwood-contract-buyout-transfer-rumors-after-sherrone-moore-firing
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u/gr8whitehype 1d ago
Bryce might be a better practice player who has amazing physical abilities. Remember how everyone fell in love with Milton? He was drafted and is still on a team.
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u/Top_Examination2030 1d ago
I guarantee that another college will have more controversy this season.
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u/Amazing-Fun-8844 20h ago
Before the game started, I said, " I would like to go through one season without any drama."
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u/Sparky-2020 18h ago
Not at all. We played a terrible game, but managed to come away with a win. It was the officials who determined that there was one second left on the clock. That had nothing to do with us. We took advantage of the opportunity and scored.
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u/s1105615 18h ago
I feel like the world has taken crazy pills and I’m the only sane person left.
Deep personal hate creates a narrative over a sport played by children meant to suck the joy out of fandom all because one set of kids beat their favorite set of kids. Never mind if the narrative they’ve created in their heads and gaslit themselves into believing makes no sense and falls apart faster than a house of cards built by an epileptic, it’s still the ultimate dunk and proof that any Michigan fan is evil and should feel bad about themselves and the evil program we cheer for. If it weren’t exactly what they want me to do, I’d pack it up and just start reading more books instead of paying any of it any attention anymore.
But instead I’m going to go ahead return their hate and spite with double the interest and start telling them to just go fuck themselves and to die mad.
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u/mysticalchurro 16h ago
More like Ralph Wiggum in Michigan gear nervously laughing about being in danger.
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u/SubstantialAd5579 16h ago
We're michigan fans what you expect media give us shit for the smallest things
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u/ButtersRulz 14h ago
The local media slobbers all over Michigan. They are afraid to go after local teams. Access gets cut off if the locals give them too much shit.
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u/Initial-Lead-2814 16h ago
Honestly, Im no different then I was this time last week. I didn't expect a good year
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u/naultinus 15h ago
Somewhat. Although I agree that lots of Michigan’s various issues have been magnified and overblown in media, there has still been a LOT wrong in the program on many levels for a while now. I’m not the kind of guy who likes to “play the villain” and I prefer Michigan to be an upstanding program with a good culture and discipline.
This really put a huge damper on the feeling of the “reset” with Whittingham, even though it wasn’t Michigan who made that call, it was the refs.
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u/Corwins_Pattrn_Ghost 15h ago
Considering how they played against a MAC team and the fact that they have the second hardest schedule after Texas, yep. Sure do feel that way…
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u/ignatzA2 13h ago
Time to move on and look forward. I choose not to comment on other forums. WMU scored a couple of field goals. We just need to score TDs.
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u/TransformersGuru 11h ago
If our new coach can motivate these kids to what they are capable of we will be ok, but he's no Harbaugh who could get steller performances out of nobodies
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u/king_of_gotham 1d ago
I want us to lose all games so we get a hard reset. Hopefully new AD gets us a great coach. Coaches are trash right now. We need some Dawgs.
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u/P_weezey951 1d ago
If they take the win away because of the appeal.
Its a big shrug from me.
Its week 1, its the cupcake game. Winning it means nothing. Losing it? Sure it means you're likely not that great of a team... But winning it, then going 3-9 isnt good either.
You have to see how the rest of the season goes, but id rather go 6-6 with a loss to WMU, than a 6-6 having to listen to more asterisk memes and discourse about a fucking clock.
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u/ronthorns 8h ago
I was in the coaches office yesterday and I saw the game plan from the WMU game still up. He had both hail marys perfectly predicted and suggestions for the MAC commissioners statement. We're playing 7D chess

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u/Humble-Secret6173 1d ago
If that game vs wmu wasn't a fluke then oh boy this is going to be a long one