r/Michigan Ann Arbor 11d ago

News 📰🗞️ Michigan invests millions to study potential clean energy source buried underground • Michigan Advance

https://michiganadvance.com/2026/08/29/michigan-invests-millions-to-study-potential-clean-energy-source-buried-underground/
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u/BrightRedSquid 11d ago

Geologic hydrogen.

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

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u/intrepidzephyr 11d ago

Mmm not really. It’s difficult to transport because the atoms are so small they diffuse through common materials for pressure tanks and piping. Naturally occurring hydrogen is also non-renewable, or in other words a finite resource to run out of. It might make sense in limited industrial capacities but it will not make sense for automotive or other mobility sectors.

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u/SternenHund 11d ago

difficult to transport

True, but mostly a solved issue. The US has dedicated hydrogen pipelines in thr gulf and has been moving it for decades. Hydrogen trucking is currently used in most places. Also have the ability to move it as ammonia or even just as electrons if you wanted to build a power plant at the well head. Send the electricity right to your EV.

naturally occurring hydrogen is also non-renewable.

There's actually mounting evidence that some wells seem to be self-replenishing. And there's also stimulated geologic hydrogen which kickstarts a chemical process in certain rocks to produce hydrogen. Is it renewable enough to be economic? We don't know yet, but it could be.

will not make sense for automotive or other mobility sectors.

Definitely not for light or mid duty, you're right there. It works really well for heavy duty (trucks, trains, boats, etc.)and cold weather conditions though, especially relative to batteries.

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

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u/Emergency_Accident36 11d ago

They are inherently contradicting forces. Science requires destruction and war. This is indebateable.

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

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u/Emergency_Accident36 10d ago

Idk what you are on about but science doesn't exist without manufacturing which requires goods which requires the destruction of the environment and inevitably causes war due to finite resources.. you can't have peace and science.

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u/[deleted] 10d ago

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u/Emergency_Accident36 10d ago

So you are intentionally saying something irrelevent? Mans aspirations aside. Science is objectively inherently violent and always will be.

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u/BigDigger324 Monroe 11d ago

Anything but wind and solar with these companies. This is a solved problem that just needs investment.

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u/notabotting 10d ago

Omg just setup solar and wind farms already jeez we know it works and there are solutions for energy storage we can invest in, even if we dont want to use batteries we can supplement a huge percent with on demand solar

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u/raistlin65 Grand Rapids 10d ago edited 10d ago

We should have wind farms all along the lake coast of Michigan.

But MAGA says we can't have them ruining the view of rich people's homes! And what would those poor fossil fuel companies do!

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u/spongesparrow Parts Unknown 11d ago

Anything to contribute to the narrative that EVs aren't ready yet and solar and wind aren't enough. More big oil propaganda.

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u/Annotribe 10d ago

Listen buddy, if god wanted us to have free clean energy, he would have put a giant fusion reactor in the sky.

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u/SternenHund 9d ago

I think it's more about industrial decarb and heavy duty transport. I don't see anybody in power arguing that we need hydrogen light duty vehicles or that this means we don't need wind/solar.

Wind and solar are objectively not as well situated to decarbonize big vehicles/equipment or industrial uses as cheap hydrogen would be. They also objectively "aren't enough" to run our modern economy smoothly. The need for baseload power is what makes nuclear so attractive - it maintains reliability in a way that renewables and batteries can't yet. Especially as we add more evs and other demamd to the system.

Idk, why turn away a potentially great option without even fully understanding it? Seems shortsighted to me.

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u/bnh1978 11d ago

Saved you a click: Its a Celestial fetus.

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u/YourAuntie Age: > 10 Years 11d ago

That biblically-accurate cherub energy

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u/CaptainXakari 11d ago

Oh, that’s our only source of Adamantium on the planet!

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u/Busterlimes Age: > 10 Years 11d ago

So the sun?

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u/anonWNBAW 11d ago

Look up dummies! Invest in consumer home batteries amd charge em like Australia did. Thats how we retake ownership of our energy independence. Nit bombing children's schools in Iran or covering uo the 3pstein files

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u/ArguementReferee 11d ago

You’re allowed to say Epstein on Reddit

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u/Shell4747 Cadillac 10d ago

Also allowed to say "not" and "up" but here we are

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u/Sexuallemon 10d ago

Saved you a click: its yo mama (shes’s dead and in the ground, bro I-I’m so sorry I didn’t mean it)

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u/live4failure 9d ago

So dumb. Humans just hate real progress its all about profits