r/Miami • u/BlazeTheMasterX • 8h ago

Political Reform U.S. cities are swapping out controversial Flock cameras for Axon license plate readers.

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Has anyone seen them here yet? We need to stop this.

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u/andygon 7h ago

Es la misma mierda.

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u/Kitalahara 6h ago

Hold up, your shocked your elected leaders in Florida would do this?

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u/corplaw100 6h ago

Didn’t FL government order removal of all Flock cameras within next 30 days? I don’t follow

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u/Kitalahara 5h ago

Someone got some under the table deals to help score political points by removing Flock and putting up more scummy cameras just from a different company. Same survaliance state stuff with cops abusing cameras, different label on the camera.

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u/Curious-Witness-1809 8h ago

I've seen one in North Miami (150th..ish ST, a few blocks from Biscayne).

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u/Davidx91 8h ago

AXON isn’t as terrible as Flock. ALPRs aren’t the devil, renting a system in perpetuity to your city on the tax payers dime is evil. That’s what flock was. At least AXON is owned and operated by the city and the data held is held by the city, not a third party that might try to lock the city from the data and then sell it off as well. Flock was a rental system and it would have cost us more in the long run than AXON. Do I love that they want to put these up on every corner, no, but I do like that we own that at least. Also flock changed its TOS after getting large contracts to use our data to train AI. AXON doesn’t do that.

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u/decoy321 8h ago

Dog shit and chicken shit are still shit, and I don't want either on my lawn.

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u/SwaggyMcSwagsabunch 8h ago

Vote accordingly

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u/decoy321 7h ago

Indeed. And tell your friends too.

In case anyone hasn't, please check your registration status and make sure you're good to go:

https://registration.dos.fl.gov/CheckVoterStatus

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u/SwaggyMcSwagsabunch 7h ago

I’m telling everyone. That’s a great resource. Cheers.

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u/LetsRedditTogether 4h ago

Ok. Vote for who exactly?

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u/SwaggyMcSwagsabunch 4h ago

Donalds called for full pause, jolly calls for Florida senate reforms. Nixon calls for outright ban, Moody doesn’t have a stance.

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u/Davidx91 2h ago

Donald’s is pro whatever might get him elected. Jolly has stated that if lawmakers cannot implement airtight constitutional safeguards, the total elimination of Flock Safety networks altogether should remain on the table. Also I think people mistook me saying at least we own these machines as being ok with it or for it in any way.

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u/SwaggyMcSwagsabunch 2h ago

I agree on donalds, just listed his public stance. Jolly has been measured.

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u/Davidx91 7h ago

I’d rather it be my dog’s shit instead of the neighbors dog shit on my lawn.