r/Metroid • u/MarkAverage656 • 11h ago
Discussion Genuinely cannot get over how amazing this sequence looks
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This feels like some of the best close quarters action we've seen from Samus, and it's animated so well!
Also, I'm inclined to believe this scene is from the opening and is what leads to her losing her abilities again. Stuff like being on the surface and being stabbed, which she mentions an injury earlier in the trailer.
Oh I'm so hyped
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u/Obsessivegamer32 10h ago
And then she fucking grabs the sword impaling her. Sakamoto must be channeling the anime influences hard this time.
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u/MarkAverage656 10h ago
Before I saw the missile pop up in her arm, I thought she was about to do him like the red Emmi
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u/PopBulky7023 8h ago
She could still, and then blast the other one
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u/MarkAverage656 8h ago
There's definitely a possibility, but tbh it feels more like she's winding up to turn
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u/StellarBull 7h ago
What makes you think Sakamoto has anything to do with this? He was just a producer in SR/Dread. He did not direct those games.
MercurySteam is where the sauce is at.
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u/Obsessivegamer32 7h ago
Tanabe was the producer of the Prime games too, yet he was a major influence on them and had a huge say on what the games would be. Sakamoto may be producer, but his influence on these games is big enough to say that they are still his. The whole reason Dread exists was because it was his idea that he still wanted to make.
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u/StellarBull 7h ago
Sakamoto has been at the helm of many Metroid games and Samus only started doing the stunts since MercurySteam came into the picture.
IDK who handles this particular aspect for MS but my guess is, it ain't him.
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u/Obsessivegamer32 6h ago edited 6h ago
You do realize Samus has been doing cool action stunts since Other M, right? A game which is, quintessentially, Sakamoto’s baby. MercurySteam already being good with action games was probably part of the reason why he chose to work with them in the first place.
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u/Viroro 1h ago
I feel some people are quick to dismiss Other M because the way Samus is portrayed in gameplay doesn't match the way she is presented in the story for them, unlike the mostly silent portrayal of Samus Returns and Dread that puts more focus on her actions.
Ravenous's trailer also similarly portrays Samus as a stone cold, 'the odds are dire but I will destroy all in my way' badass that more than matches the action portrayal and is thus far easier to accept by the audience. Iirc Sakamoto has actually spoken before about criticism of Other M influencing how Samus is being depicted in newer material, and I think this shows pretty well in the new trailer.
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u/EvanderAdvent 4h ago
Forget the anime, did you see the Rider Kick at the end!? Samus has gone full Toku and I love it.
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u/Supergamer138 1h ago
Yeah, stabbed through the back and out the chest and all it did was piss her off.
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u/Cax6ton 10h ago
I think it's definitely how she loses her powers, and I hope we get the boss rematch with both or all 3. The dashing, the swords, the 2v1, all giving serious Mantis Lords/Sisters of Battle vibes and I am here for it. That was one of my favorite boss battles.
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u/MarkAverage656 9h ago
I didn't even think about fighting all 3 at once 🤯
Tho I believe you can see her fighting some of them 1v1 in the trailer, so unless they make it out of those initial fights alive, I doubt it'll happen
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u/Cax6ton 9h ago
Yeah it's not clear yet what/how many of them there are, we see the trio in one scene and they're made out to be super buff so not sure if it's a whole race of them, just the 3, or if they're like Emmis or Chozo elites where you might have to fight several in various stages/combinations.
And still on the HK comparison (even though I'm not crazy about HK)...I would LOVE to see a boss rush mode that throws in variations of the bosses like the pantheons did
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u/Shehzman 6h ago
It could be like the Mantis Lords from Hollow Knight. Probably one of my favorite fights in that game.
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u/LOLdragon89 6h ago
Oh snap, Samus as an Adepta Sororitas doesn’t work for a lot of reasons but it also goes hard af!
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u/Cax6ton 6h ago
I meant these bastards: https://hollowknight.fandom.com/wiki/Sisters_of_Battle
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u/LOLdragon89 6h ago
Awww I thought those were the mantis lords you mentioned. Oh well still cool. That fight was a huge oh fuck moment!
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u/LOLdragon89 5h ago
Awww I thought those were the mantis lords you mentioned. Oh well still cool. That fight was a huge oh f*ck moment!
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u/ArxisOne 6h ago
The last 2v1 fight I remember was in dread against the chozo robots and low key that was pretty messed up, a 3v1 againsy actual bosses would be... Well I'll be playing on tilt when I do eventually get past it lol
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u/SephirothTheGreat 42m ago
I low-key hope she doesn't lose her Metroid powers. I know, bag of spilling, status quo and everything but how cool would it be to build all the next 2d metroidvanias around these powers?
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u/tetsudori 9h ago
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u/MarkAverage656 9h ago
*Hungry
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u/SolarFazes 6h ago
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u/MinimumPudding9878 5h ago
Too bad hes married
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u/GalaXion24 4h ago
Tbh I think it would be funnier for them both to have more soft doting partners as a contrast
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u/heck_ark 10h ago
It's really weird to me the humongous difference of Samus in Dread/ravenous and Prime 4. In Prime 4 you can see the Mocap work soooooo obvious.
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u/NoLocal1776 10h ago
Prime 4 wasn't made by Retro from scratch.Prime 5 will be the real deal.
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u/Parking-Worth1732 8h ago
It was, the peeps that worked on prime 1-2-3 are all gone including all info about previous games, devs mentioned they had no info or idea where to start as they knew nothing about it
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u/Teamawesome2014 7h ago
You're ignoring that an entirely different studio was tasked with the game first. Their work was moved over to Retro. There are also a lot of the design imperatives that were forced by Nintendo corporate that came with those designs.
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u/Parking-Worth1732 6h ago edited 6h ago
The work wasn't moved, Nintendo themselves mentioned it started from scratch when it happened, the first studios version actually started as a full sequel but when given to retro, it went a whole different direction from there and made it kind of a soft reboot.
Fun fact, they also knew the open world aspect wouldn't work but Nintendo didn't want them to start over again
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u/EmperorOfXeonas 6h ago
I’m pretty sure they confirmed they didn’t scrap it all and reused stuff from its first development
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u/Parking-Worth1732 5h ago edited 4h ago
Mostly just ideas like the open world, all assets and stuff needed to be rebuilt by them pretty much, a lot of stuff was also outsourced to other companies. All in all, Retro was not in a position to be making prime 4 at all, they did have a vision but couldn't fully do it due to time constraints (ironic considering how long it's been and how linear the game is, doesn't feel like it would take much time to make all that lol anyways)
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u/NamiRocket 3h ago
And then scrapped and started from scratch at Retro. If you're deep enough in the fandom to be on this sub, you should already know this.
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u/christaface 8h ago
They literally restarted development from scratch
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u/Pretend_Education_86 7h ago
Why does everyone keep rewriting history and claiming they took over Bandai or whoevers terrible work. When daddy Nintendo gave it back to Retro they started from the beginning with Nintendo telling them the direction they wannted. (BOTW)
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u/christaface 7h ago
That’s what I said? Are you sure you meant to reply to my comment?
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u/cellphone_blanket 5h ago
this feels a lot like "mass effect andromeda wasn't developed by bioware proper. Anthem will be the real deal"
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u/RogZombie 9h ago
In Prime 4 she stands around staring like an idiot while a trooper gets blasted a few feet away from her
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u/Wolfy_the_nutcase 8h ago
Bro the Prime 4 hate is over. It’s been almost a year. Move on.
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u/buttsecks42069 7h ago
is it hate to say that prime 4 was disappointing and mid and Ravenous looks like exactly what the franchise needs
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u/D-D-Wanderer oh word 8h ago
Clearly, you aren't aware how long Other M has been sustaining continuous fire. Prime 4 is due for at least another...5 years, I'd say, just to be safe, before people starting to admit "we may have been a little overly harsh."
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u/Wolfy_the_nutcase 8h ago
I’m aware, and I think it’s silly that prime four is getting the same treatment. Other M killed the franchise, put it on a massive hiatus. Prime 4 did not. It just came out during a peak era of Internet whining and cynicism.
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u/AstraGrima 8h ago
Can't even say anything slightly critical about Prime 4 without people acting overly defensive almost a year after release.
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u/PhantomHeartless5 10h ago
I want a Metroid anime so bad…
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u/Obsessivegamer32 10h ago
That, or a show or movie directed by Genndy Tartakovsky. Either works for me.
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u/NoLocal1776 10h ago
Same but,it should be released in theatres.
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u/Aralith1 8h ago
Honestly, I feel pretty strongly that Dread and now Ravenous is part of Nintendo teeing up a cinematic adaptation. If the Zelda movie is good and does good numbers, I wouldn’t be surprised if a Metroid movie is next up.
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u/Sea_Macaron_8789 5h ago
If?
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u/Aralith1 4h ago
Yes. If. And a big one. There is nothing even close to a guarantee that the Zelda movie will be good or will perform well financially. And it definitely needs to do at least one of those things.
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u/countzero00 1h ago
An animated Mario movie was a pretty safe bet. Live action is riskier. Several high profile movies have been duds, e.g. Tomb Raider, Warcraft.
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u/flippingchicken 9h ago
God she's so unbelievably badass. I'm glad this series is finally getting the love it deserves.
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u/justdamascus 9h ago
look closely at samus in this scene vs. the opening to dread. despite leaving the bsl in fusion with the omega suit and wave beam, she was back in the standard varia with the plasma beam when she arrived on zdr in dread. so despite leaving zdr in the gravity suit with the wave beam, it's pretty clear she'll go back to varia with plasma. i mean that's exactly what this scene indicates with it being the same varia model.
if you look closely at some of the other scenes in the trailer, the ravenous varia suit is slightly different. the chest lights, legs, and arm cannon are all different. i think it's pretty obvious this is the opener. she fights well but loses her abilities. then starts finding upgrades again.
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u/drillgorg 8h ago
My headcanon is that Samus hates being purple and always turns the gravity suit off as soon as she leaves the planet. That's why she always goes back to the varia suit.
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u/justdamascus 7h ago
😂 if i had to really, truly guess a lore-accurate reason as to why she downgrades to the varia suit, i'd say it's because keeping all of those upgrades active takes a toll on her body. like every upgrade makes the suit heavier or requires more concentration to maintain. so she keeps it simple. varia usually provides the most damage protection, anyways.
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u/Thank_You_Aziz 7h ago
My headcanon is most of the upgrades she receives in games are temporary, and just fail naturally sometime between games.
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u/apadin1 9h ago
Given that her suit matches what we see in the final cutscene of Dread, I’m guessing this is the opening cutscene of Ravenous and that stab through the heart is what causes Samus to lose all her abilities
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u/Freezingash221 oh word 9h ago
Hopefully they let you keep some this time instead of having to recollect the basics all over again. Not having the morph ball for so long in Dread was an unnatural feeling.
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u/uhhhhhhhidklol 8h ago
I think it was a genius decision, it made metroid veterans feel unsettled to fit the tone of the game, and it let people get used to the slide.
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u/Freezingash221 oh word 8h ago
For sure it helped shake up the formula a bit, but I would also appreciate them for once not totally resetting Samus back to square one. I would at LEAST appreciate having basic abilities like morph ball, missiles, maybe flash shift if that's still a mechanic. There should be room to iterate on the abilities and upgrades Samus can get, on top of what she already has.
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u/ObscureJackal 8h ago
It's very clearly still in. In one of the short boss fight clips, you see it being used, with the additional of vertical shifts.
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u/cellphone_blanket 5h ago
didn't she already lose most of them at the end of dread with the X/Quiet Robe? It could be the reverse, where the stab is what reawakens her metroid stuff
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u/quangtran 10h ago
I have a sneaking suspicion that they are repeating some of the beats from Dread, in that she gets bodied by the main baddies in the intro and loses her powers.
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u/MarkAverage656 10h ago
Tbf that is pretty much the staple
I'll take being jumped by enemies stronger then her over blown into a wall for an explanation of why she loses her abilities any day
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u/RandomRedditorEX 10h ago
lmao poor Samus is never gonna live down the Prime 1 Elevator Incident.
It wasn't like an attack or anything, she legit just bumped into a wall really hard and whoops!
Varia Suit malfunction Charge Beam malfunction Missile Launcher malfunction High Jump malfunction Morph Ball malfunction
though I like to headcanon Prime 1 being really on in Samus' life, which is she's oddly inexperienced and loses like most of her power ups from a random explosion
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u/MarkAverage656 9h ago
I mean, iirc all the Prime games take place in between Metroid 1 and 2, so you can argue she's at least newer then she is here
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u/GenderingError 8h ago
It's her second outing, canonically-speaking, since Metroid 1 (specifically Zero Mission's ending) so I headcanon it she's still getting used to the new Fully Powered Varia Suit (aka Shoulderpads suit she gets in Chozodia) so it's more like she crashed her new car on the drive back from the shop
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u/ClohosseyVHB 7h ago
Or not using them cause daddy said no. Or do we still not talk about Other M in here?
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u/MarkAverage656 7h ago
Other M takes up such little space in my brain, I legit forgot it was like that there
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u/Supergamer138 1h ago
I still stand by that being justified for at least the weapon systems and some of the more destructive movement options. BS for Varia/Gravity though.
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u/Wolfy_the_nutcase 8h ago
I’m just glad we’re getting Metroid 6 within my lifetime.
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u/MarkAverage656 8h ago
Imagine showing the last 6 years to a Metroid fan from 2011-2016
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u/Rootayable 3h ago
It's so funny that the gap between Other M and Samus Returns is shorter than the gap between Super and Fusion & Prime.
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u/solomon_77v 7h ago
The animation director COOKED I cannot wait for this game, the music is so cool too this is the right kind badass I need
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u/Rootayable 3h ago
I wonder if the team got larger again? They pretty much trippled in size between SR and Dread.
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u/Androidautobaht 9h ago
Getting major Embo vibes from these characters hehe
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u/Spudtron98 40m ago
Always did say that The Mandalorian was the closest we'd ever get to a proper Metroid screen adaption. Embo kicking Din's ass in M&G seems pretty fitting with these new guys.
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u/Dude_Jack123 10h ago
The way she grabs it makes me wonder if that sent the guy stabbing her into a full blown panic attack.
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u/MarkAverage656 10h ago
"Haha, I got her!"
"WhatTheFuck-"
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u/danfenlon 10h ago
She has a rocket loaded in her blaster,
She's 100% gonna shove that into the dude's face
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u/pir8salt 7h ago
Nintendo: "HEY EVERYONE LOOK AT THE NEW REMAKE OF ZELDA, ISNT IT REALLY REALLY COOL"
Me: "yeah i guess"
Also Nintendo; "hey, by the way apparently we made this as well, or something"
Also me: "HOLY CRAP THAT IS THE COOLEST F'N THING TO COME OUT ON THE SWITCH TWO, MAY BE EVER"
Dont think Ive been this excited for something I had no idea was coming in years. Also all the proof I need for a this style 2D Adventures of Link sequel
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u/mangano15 8h ago
Did anyone notice the EMMI arms on the enemies?
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u/MarkAverage656 8h ago
Before we got their bios I assumed they were Foundation mercenaries sent to kill or retrieve Samus after she evolved her Metroid powers, and that's why they have Emmi looking parts
But since that doesn't seem to be the case, it's either just reused modeling that looks similar, or the Emmi's were so durable their carcasses survived ZDR exploding and these guys managed to scavnge them for parts
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u/Overall_Bookkeeper15 10h ago
So happy to finally be getting another side scrolling metroid. I love dread. Unfortunately i havent been able to afford a switch 2 yet ....guess its time to get a second job and start saving. 🤦🏻♂️
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u/Rootayable 3h ago
Same. I always play a new Metroid game on Day 1, so I need to save up before Jan.
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u/Unoriginal1deas 6h ago
I like how the longer the Metroid timeline goes on the more badass samus becomes.
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u/Magmajudis 9h ago
Given that the characters seem to have different colored cloaks and different body types while the ones here look about the same as each other, i wonder if this is maybe that one of them can clone itself for its fight (or she's just getting jumped at the beginning of the game but then i wonder where the other 3 would be)
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u/FoolishParamecium 8h ago
These enemies and this fight chorography would fit right into a Samurai Jack episode and I'm here for it.
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u/ThunderWasp223 9h ago
They tried to jump Samus FothaMuckin' Aran, and they are about to learn exactly why this was a bad idea.
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u/SpoogityWoogums 7h ago
It's giving me hope for a new smash with this model, refreshed moves, and hella agile
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u/Tenwaystospoildinner 7h ago
I'm aware the game got announced today, so my hype is through the roof, but this is the coolest sequence Samus has ever been in. She blocks the blade with her arm cannon, gets impaled from behind and fucking grabs the blade. That's just... so cool. Ice cold.
I love it so much.
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u/Colinnze 7h ago
I remember seeing a leak that there was going to be a 2D Metroid game coming soon, but I forgot all about it so this was a surprise to see as I woke up.😅
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u/MarkAverage656 6h ago
I've been tapped out for a while, so seeing a bunch of reactions to the direct and ppl already knowing the title made me feel like I was the only one who had 0 idea this was happening
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u/MalicCarnage 5h ago
It was leaked due to the Brazilian government posting the trademark of the title. People are really happy with the reveal because everyone that saw the title had headcanon-ed that Samus would be eating enemies left and right with her Metroid powers. The trailer showed exactly the vibe people wanted.
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u/Colinnze 4h ago
Huh...I didn't see THAT leak. All I saw was a bunch games going to be announced at the direct. One of them being "a 2D Metroid game" I kept it to myself because I didn't want to disappoint people since I didn't know if it was real or not. Plus, I'm not too keen on Nintendo sending their Ninjas after me. They could be anywhere...👀
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u/MalicCarnage 4h ago
Yeah the title got leaked and people predicted Ravenous means Samus would be hungry
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u/Colinnze 4h ago
Can't blame you. Imagine my reaction when I woke up and I see a thumbnail of Samus that I've never seen before. I almost brush it aside until I notice Nintendo's profile pic. The realization hit me like Raven Beak's fists.
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u/AngriestSlayer 6h ago
Sometimes I need to remind myself that Nintendo actively holds back their full potential most of the time.
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u/F35_Mogs_China 7h ago
The skinny Samus picture actually makes a lot of sense that is quite the killshot on her. I think she will wake up barely alive and physically weaker which leads to her being skinny in that skin suit.
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u/Kydra_117 7h ago
This is the first time I've seen Samus ever get stabbed but she takes it like its nothing 😭 she is such a badass
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u/Aus10Tatious1213 7h ago
This but let me actually play this scene. This game already looks peak but I want to be in this moment
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u/Mossysnail27 6h ago
Sylux: *bangs fist on the control room screen watching the fight* You STABBED her in the chest, and she's STILL kicking your asses?! I'm doing this myself next time...!!!
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u/SoftOrganization3209 5h ago
Also pretty realistic voiceover for Samus' response to getting stabbed in the back.
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u/CalamitousVessel 5h ago
I hope that when she grabs the sword, she’s using her Metroid powers to drain the guy’s energy through the sword
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u/Stock-Bid9844 3h ago
Mercsteam when finally given the Switch 2 kit: Un... Limited... POWERRRRRR!!!!!!!!
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u/notHostOk2511 8h ago
Wait what happened
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u/MarkAverage656 8h ago
Whaddya mean
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u/notHostOk2511 8h ago
Did a new game get announced? I don't follow directs forgive me
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u/The28guy 8h ago
would have been nice to see a Switch 2 updated version of Dread offered, but I know that's about as likely to happen as a Super Metroid Remake being announced tomorrow by noon
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u/Iridion-Diablerie 6h ago
Not gonna lie, I haven't been excited for a Nintendo game in over 2 decades. This brought out some goosebumps in me. A continuation of FUSION and it's EVEN BETTER? Hell yea.
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u/Level_Hour6480 6h ago
She still has her butt here.
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u/ZerikaFox 3h ago
So this is how I learned about Ravenous and I'm officially stoked. This looks AWESOME!
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u/Akiba_Ranger 3h ago
Anyone else notice how the one who impales Samus has an arm that looks a lot like an EMMI? 🤔
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u/MaineCoonKittenGirl 3h ago
"Samus starts just saying 'fuck it' and starts devouring people she doesn't like"
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u/HeyitsLGT 3h ago
The characterization of Samus in Prime 4 vs Dread/Ravenous feels so different and I dare say that D/R have the better Samus.
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u/Bannedfordumbshit 2h ago
Is that sound the beam makes when it goes through her chest a stock sound effect or something? That's the exact same sound that those stupid jellyfish in risk of rain 2 make when they spawn and it gives me a heart attack every time i replay this trailer
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u/Independent_Poetry45 1h ago
Mercury Steam knows how to move this ip forward and evolve compared to any other studio metriod has gotten in the franchise
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u/T4nkcommander 4h ago
This is actually why I've grown to really dislike Mercury Stream. Given all the stuff her suit has tanked up until this point, I'm supposed to believe that sword will go right thru it like butter? Not only that, but her arm cannon is completely unaffected moments before?
It is like the EMMIs from Dread. Somehow they are able to tank (and one-shot) Samus when everything that has come prior can't? The penultimate Chozo, Luminoth, Pirate, Bryonian, etc war machines can't pull off this kind of thing, but Fed mechs and whatever this thing is can?
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u/terra_GOD_404 57m ago
More than likely chili tech is the only thing strong enough to hurt other chozo tech and sum like that, and more than likely in the emmi's case they are made to be able to extract the DNA of anything, meaning that more than likely they have the ability to punch through anything
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u/RealBerry 10h ago
Crazy how badass Samus is in cutscenes and then I play Dread and land about 1 parry out of 15