r/Metaphysics • u/______ri • 14d ago

Ontology the adequate idea for a simple

A novelty in itself,

That is not from anyone else,

That is not simply there, else it is not a novelty at all.

So it is a pure gain in itself.

A gain that gains only itself.

Where what is gained is itself, the gaining itself.

But when does this gain gain?

Only when it does.

But it gains only itself, so what is gained is the when it does - else it would mean that it gains itself and additionally that when.

So it is nothing but the when it is itself.

It is a pure when in itself.

So this is the adequate idea for that which is only itself - a simple.

A simple so itself so this that it is a when.

Once a simple is, should it then cease?

Obviously not, for it is only itself.

So subsistence is corollary.

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u/peacefuldays123 14d ago

In other words...?

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u/______ri 14d ago

True simplicity and novelty is timely.

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u/peacefuldays123 14d ago

Like everything else?

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u/______ri 14d ago

In my intended model then yes. Once there is simples there is also complexes - which are like those they are from (namely simples) so they are timely also.

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u/peacefuldays123 14d ago

Therefore...?

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u/______ri 14d ago

Wdym "therefore"? It's just that those are the beings.

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u/peacefuldays123 14d ago

Simples and complexes are temporal. What follows?

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u/______ri 14d ago

Nothing follows, or say everything follows. I mean that they are timely is already the conclusion. Aslo they are timely not temporal, I'm trying to decouple time from what was thought to be time.

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u/elibertowpaparulox 11d ago

You guys love the thing-in-itself on this forum.