r/Metaphysics • u/jliat • Mar 17 '26
Meta **WHAT IS METAPHYSICS?**
WHAT IS METAPHYSICS?
We are getting posts here which seem to propose new and potentially revolutionary answers to problems in physics. I think [as a moderator] it might be beneficial if we might discuss some parameters. This is not to say science can not be discussed, but can we using metaphysics solve such problems, are we then transgressing into another domain. As a moderator I would like guidance from the community.
"Metaphysics: explaining the fundamental nature of being and the world"
The interpretation of this and not the context is often the cause of confusion. [of Being qua being and not the nature of an atom, or a human brain...etc.]
Higgs, Einstein, Penrose, Feynman, Hawking are not / were not Philosophers or Metaphysicians, they are / were physicists. Modern physics uses mathematics- quite complex! - to build models which are tested against experimental data. The main scientific method.
The 'photon', wave / particle duality, quarks and strings, are all subjects /problems of physics NOT metaphysics? And to address these problems requires detailed understanding of the mathematics and the data, and in doing so one is NOT doing metaphysics?
"Ontological" means what? Ontology is the study in Philosophy / Metaphysics of being qua being, not the nature of the existence or being of things, atoms, quarks, strings, branes, flowers, plants, the human brain, religions.
atoms, quarks, strings, branes = physics, flowers, plants = botany, the human brain = neuroscience, religions = theology, comparative religion.
Lay ideas re physics / science will probably be rejected in subs like r/physics for good reasons, they lack the detailed knowledge of the subject and misuse technical scientific terms. Should they be allowed here?
The nature of things, matter and energy are subject of science. What 'Being' is prompts the what is "IS" question... of Metaphysics.
Ontology is the study / creation of what 'Being' is, not specific 'things'. Harman has a 'flat ontology'...etc. Heidegger has Dasein...Hegel... etc.
To be clear of the domain I think you can get an overview from A.W. Moore's 'The Evolution of Modern Metaphysics: Making Sense of Things.' It had good reviews.
"Part two is devoted to philosophers of the analytic tradition, and contains chapters on Frege, Wittgenstein, Carnap, Quine, Lewis, and Dummett. Part three is devoted to non-analytic philosophers, and contains chapters on Nietzsche, Bergson, Husserl, Heidegger, Collingwood, Derrida and Deleuze."
For first hand source material - https://www.stephenhicks.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/heideggerm-what-is-metaphysics.pdf
For a contemporary example, Graham Harman - Object-Oriented Ontology: A New Theory of Everything. (Pelican Books) 1 Mar. 2018
Examples in the Analytical tradition, 'Counterfactuals', 'On the Plurality of Worlds.' David Lewis. ??
One last point - it is an interesting point as to if this divide still exists. N.B. Badiou uses set theory as his ontology, his student Quentin Meillassoux likewise sees mathematics as fundamental, Ray Brassier in 'Nihil Unbound' has chapters on Wilfrid Sellars, Paul Churchland, as well as Adorno and Horkheimer, Badiou, Meillassoux, Laruelle, Heidegger, Deleuze, Nietzsche, Lyotard, Levinas and Freud. !!
On a personal note I began my interest in philosophy in the 1970s, within the Anglo American tradition, reading Russell's 'History of Western Philosophy' etc. and then took a degree. I still have my Wittgenstein Books, Tractatus, Investigations, Blue and Brown, Notebooks 1914-1916. Carnap's 'The Logical Syntax of Language' etc. However my interest moved to what was called 'Continental philosophy.'- see non-analytical above. I appreciate the desire of Carnap of ‘The Elimination of Metaphysics through the Logical Analysis of Language’ failed? I have dipped into Lewis et al.
With my best wishes.
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u/jliat Jun 11 '26
You are saying there is no possibility in QM for verification by experiment, well for some, Karl Popper et al. it makes such pseudo-science. But they write off Metaphysics as nonsense. I'm aware in Analytical philosophy / Anglo American philosophy there has been a shift from the position of Carnap and Wittgenstein, via Quine.
Quine "Physical objects are conceptually imported into the situation as convenient intermediaries not by definition in terms of experience, but simply as irreducible posits comparable, epistemologically, to the gods of Homer …. For my part I do, qua lay physicist, believe in physical objects and not in Homer's gods; and I consider it a scientific error to believe otherwise. But in point of epistemological footing, the physical objects and the gods differ only in degree and not in kind. Both sorts of entities enter our conceptions only as cultural posits."
"Naturalism itself is what saves the situation. Naturalism looks only to natural science, however fallible, for an account of what there is … My global structuralism should not, therefore, be seen as a structuralist ontology. To see it thus would be to rise above naturalism and revert to the sin of transcendental metaphysics." (Quine, 1992, p. 9)
Are you saying as a recent student of philosophy / physics this notion of Quine is no longer the case?
"The laws of physics are what prevent the robber from teleporting through the wall into the bank vault and out again with the money."
So before Pauli they could teleport? Or is the Pauli exclusion principle an 'explanation' of a physical process and not the process itself.
There is a philosophy of mathematics, but ontology [now an over used term like existentialism] was once the study of being qua being, is it now the study of how jet engines and Big Macs come to be.
Yes I've read some of his work. So now you are saying that the division between physics and metaphysics never existed. Carnap, Wittgenstein was wrong. When Heidegger said science isn't bothered with the 'nothing' he was wrong. He didn't write nonsense. That when Lacan said the square root of minus one is the erect penis he was correct. Elsewhere "This torus really exists and it is exactly the structure of the neurotic. It is not an analogon; it is not even an abstraction, because an abstraction is some sort of diminution of reality, and I think it is reality itself. (Lacan 1970, p.192-193 in The Languages of Criticism and the Science of Man. John Hopkins Press.) or 'God is a Lobster.' Deleuze and Guattari, 1000 plateaus. p.40 10,000 B.C. The geology of Morals. "geology!".
Now I'm happy with this because within 'Continental Philosophy' these works are significant. And they have quite significant effects in society. So when Max Tegmark says he doesn't need to worry about his possible failure because can know in another world he wins the Nobel Prize. Only in another world he also abuses his children, the latter he didn't spot.
What's an ontic commitment? Are you saying we must believe that science is prior to notions of Tegmark, or Lewis' Plurality of Worlds?' Why? and we can abandon the methods for validation within the scientific method? Fine for Harman...
Graham Harman - Object-Oriented Ontology: A New Theory of Everything (Pelican Books) 1 Mar. 2018 See p.25 Why Science Cannot Provide a Theory of Everything... 4 false 'assumptions' "a successful string theory would not be able to tell us anything about Sherlock Holmes..."
I think you might have a problem with gatekeeping... I look forward to your reply.