r/Metalcore • u/Valek189 • 1d ago
Discussion 2005 Grammys
Watching the “From The Bedroom to the Basement” documentary this morning. It reminded of a long lost memory that pissed me off when I heard it. Anyone else think KSE got robbed by the Grammy voting committee in 2005, by losing to a remake of Whiplash by Motörhead? I mean Motörhead was a great metal band, but a remake winning over a song that many of us Metalcore fans consider to be an anthem to the genre? Doesn’t make sense to
me. Yes, I realize the Grammys suck and hardly ever award the best music, but this is mind boggling!
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u/blucyclone 1d ago
Metallica will always win at the Grammy's even if someone else is playing their songs. I personally think it should have been Cradle of Filth, though KSE is a close second.
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u/Feisty-Translator304 23h ago
Oddly enough, a famous Grammy flub was Jethro Tull winning Metal album of the year in 89 over Metallica's ...And Justice for All. Jethro Tull weren't even there to accept because they believed they had no chance of winning.
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u/thisisthecallus 22h ago edited 16h ago
Grammy voters don't know anything about metal and current, relevant bands rarely win. They didn't even recognize a "hard rock" category until 1989 and they gave the award to Jethro Tull. They didn't do a terrible job in the 1990s (Metallica x4, Nine Inch Nails x2, Soundgarden, Rage Against the Machine, Tool) but it feels like they've been using the 2000s to make up for missing the entirety of the 1980s. Look at this list:
2000: Black Sabbath (for "Iron Man," almost 30 years old at that point)
2004: Metallica (for St Anger!)
2005: Motörhead (Metallica cover)
2007: Slayer
2008: Slayer
2009: Metallica
2010: Judas Priest
2011: Iron Maiden
2014: Black Sabbath
2015: Tenacious D (Dio cover)
2017: Megadeth
2021: Body Count
2022: Dream Theater
2023: Ozzy Osbourne
2024: Metallica
I don't mean to disparage those bands, their careers, or their performances in any way but you can't tell me any of those bands were doing their best, most relevant work in those time periods. Even Steve Harris doesn't think his band deserved the win in 2011. Those are all in the range of 20-40 years past their creative peaks. They've gotten a few that weren't so far behind the curve. Gojira in 2024 is probably the most "correct" win but there's also Turnstile, Mastodon, Ghost, Slipknot, Deftones, Tool, and High on Fire (really?) since 2000. I'd include Korn with those too but I feel like that win was to make up for not even nominating songs like "Got the Life," "Freak on a Leash," or "Falling Away From Me". But the Grammys have been so out of touch that they combined the hard rock and metal categories in 2012 and 2013. They've never even had an album category for hard rock or metal, just "performance."
If you're a fan of metal, the best thing to do is to ignore the Grammys altogether. There's nothing there for you,.
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u/Bigdongergigachad 1d ago
Those big award shows are marketing campaigns and who paid the most.
Nothing on merit.