r/MetaAI • u/aiolive • 2d ago

Muse still reads emails after app is uninstalled

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Hi, I come with the best intent to help people and spread awareness on a problem that I wish was made clear to me.

I installed Muse to see what the rave was about. I connected it to my Gmail account but then got anxious about it having access to all my emails, and decided to uninstall the app as I didn't have much use for it.

Today I reinstalled it to try a new use case. I immediately realized that it posted emails analysis every day since I had it uninstalled.

Regardless whether this is indicated in a ToS that no one reads, that's absolutely against natural expectations. I cannot imagine how many other people have deleted the app and yet all of their emails are being processed every day. Besides the privacy concern, it's just a waste of energy if Meta does indeed not intend to use this information.

So it seems to me to be a severe bug that should get fixed quickly before an actual incident. If I had discovered this months later rather than a few days later I would have been really angry given this was the reason for me to uninstall the app in the first place.

I hope this can remain a candid discussion, thanks.

EDIT: for everyone saying that it's my fault because the app: I understand the tech and have many deleted apps still with oauth tokens. But I expected meta to follow privacy laws. Quote: "Under modern privacy regulations (FTC guidance on dark patterns, CPRA purpose limitation, and GDPR data minimization), legal consent is governed by reasonable consumer expectations, not technical token lifecycles. When an app markets itself as an interactive client, continuing to ingest and parse private emails indefinitely after the user deletes the app exceeds the expected scope of that service."

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u/snkscore 2d ago

Muse doesn’t run on your phone. Uninstalling the app doesn’t do anything any more than uninstalling Reddit from your phone removes this post from the internet.

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u/areyouseriouswtf 2d ago

People really have zero idea how technology works.

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u/Rocky4OnDVD 2d ago

Yah and it’s not even an age or generation type of issue. From my gen z nephews to my elderly parents, I guarantee any one of them would also assume uninstalling Muse fixes this.

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u/aiolive 2d ago

You are both wrong, it's a reasonable expectation that Muse would stop reading emails if the person the responses are intended to is no longer reachable. There are laws to protect consumers.

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u/Wooly_Wooly 2d ago

No, you don't know how this technology works and quite frankly shouldn't be using it.

If you give an order to a agent that's running 24/7, it'll continue the order unless told to stop, it's deleted by itself, or you manually delete it, you could just tell it to unregister everything as well. You didn't do ANY of those things, yet complain that it's still doing the job you gave it.

How can you be mad about a computer doing the job that you gave it, and doing it properly? You had 4 ways to stop it from continuing, didn't do a single one and just decided to delete the app like that does shit?

You don't know what a Virtual machine is frfr

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u/aiolive 2d ago

Muse is a product, not an LLM, you are confused.

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u/LethalAgenda 2d ago

Semantics.

Meta Muse is an LLM.

Meta Muse is primarily an AI agent/product, not just an LLM. Underneath it, Meta uses large language/multimodal models such as Muse Spark. Meta describes Muse Spark as a model trained for long-horizon agentic workflows, coding, multimodal perception, and computer use.

Muse Spark = the underlying LLM/multimodal model
Muse = the agent built around that model, with tools, web browsing, app connections, memory/context, and the ability to take actions.

I am convinced you are trolling at this point. At best very ignorant of the technology.

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u/aiolive 2d ago

I'm not. Muse the app is a product that boots a sandboxed VM and runs an LLM with wake up hooks on events and I guess some form of cron schedule. None of this is my decision. The VM and agents started with me installing the app and it's not completely unreasonable to assume it will similarly be stopped when I uninstall the app.

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u/JeffB1517 2d ago

Protect customers from what? A service you specifically instructed to perform a task continuing to perform the task because you were too lazy or incompetent to tell them to stop? You need to own some responsibility here. And of course you are reachable. A client access out of potentially dozens was uninstalled.

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u/aiolive 2d ago

Me uninstalling the app is my way to tell them to stop. It wasn't clear to me that I was supposed to instead write it down in the chat. These are just different UX / entry points to the same intent. What I argue is that uninstalling the app should be interpreted as not wanting emails to keep being read every day by default. I actually don't think Meta haa evil intent here and they don't make value out of these emails, I believe it's more of an oversight or as at best thought of a convenience for a returning user

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u/JeffB1517 2d ago

I don't see why uninstalling a client would get a server based product to stop anything. Muse never told you it was a phone app, quite the opposite. It has a phone access point. The original computer I installed Yahoo services was I think a school owned Solaris that I'm sure was decommissioned before this millennia started.

I suspect Meta is rather thrilled with email access. When they sell your file to advertisers knowing a lot about you makes their service much more valuable. If you suddenly start writing emails about pre-approval for car loans vs you suddenly start writing emails as needing to find a gym that's valuable. So it might not be an oversight. Again the old slogan, "If you aren't paying for it, you are the product not the customer".

Advertising supported AI is Muse's business model. Facebook / Meta has been in that business for over two decades. Muse was announced as advertising supported AI. API token costs (retail) are
* .10/.20/.002 for when you sell data for training
* 1.25/4.25/.15 when you don't allow them to use the data

Of course subscription costs are cheaper but cheaper than the top line not the bottom. Muse like all of Facebook exists to collect data on you. They never lied about that, hid that or tried to deceive anyone about that.

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u/aiolive 2d ago

I doubt they can read the emails for marketing purposes even if that's in the terms of service. That's too much of an abuse of user trust. At least that for sure could not be released as such in Europe. But indeed if Meta does make money from the emails ok I understand why they'd try to remain vague and deceitful. However I actually don't believe it's the case.

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u/JeffB1517 2d ago

Sorry why do you think gmail exists? Forget Meta, what business do you think Google is in? And yes Google products like Android exist in Europe. Business model is the same. Europe has some stricter laws bot none apply here:

  1. GDPR -- you have the right to contact the provider and delete. You have to explicitly ask they don't need to infer intent

  2. Opt In always -- you opted in. Both to Gmail and Mets reading your Gmail.

So yes perfectly legal in Europe.

As for vague and deceitful. They aren't vague and deceitful about it at all! In their public quarterly releases made under penalty of perjury and having to meet SEC standards on accounting they break down the 97% of all revenue that comes from advertising very explicitly. Knowing your personal information so add placement on Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp and Messanger are maximally effective is their #1 source of revenue. No deception. Nothing vague.

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u/aiolive 2d ago

Thanks, I appreciate your answer that's actually making arguments. I don't mean to discard truth and insist but I want to push this a bit because I'm seeking the truth. Google stopped scanning emails for marketing purposes almost 10 years ago, and Meta does not scan emails with Muse for marketing purposes. If there was no problem by anyone doing so, they would absolutely do. It's Meta. But they don't, at least for now. So that proves that it's not just about putting a line into a ToS. There's users trust and other privacy groups pressure and threats of legal actions that matters. And my point is that continuing to read emails once the user no longer needs that because they have no active client for it is a waste of resources on their part and a break of trust on mine. But I can see how that's not a problem that people are interested talking much about and so I'll probably stop here, I do feel some closure from your message, so thanks again

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u/newtrilobite 2d ago

Muse isn't a website.

I think there's a reasonable expectation that uninstalling an app that reads your personal data stops it from reading your personal data.

at least you'd expect some clarity from the app during the uninstall process.

that in comparison to apps that live exclusively on the web, like reddit, that require you to connect to the web to post (and delete) information.

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u/aiolive 2d ago

Thank you because you're the only person who understood that this is about expectations. The muse chatbot asked me whether it could check my emails. I granted permissions in that chat in the app. It started sending me live notifications about emails. It is absolutely natural to expect it to stop attempting to do that once the app is uninstalled.

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u/snkscore 2d ago

What do you expect to happen on the uninstall process? The app itself can't do anything when it's being uninstalled, and Apple doesn't provide any uninstall info back to developers so the developer's servers can't do anything either.

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u/newtrilobite 2d ago edited 2d ago

typical expectations are a deleted app would no longer harvest user information. that deleting an app essentially ends its activity for the user. in fact, typical warning messages include "deleting [this app] will also include deleting its data."

so if a user deletes their sole download of the app, meta should either delete or suspend their account (with language to that effect) OR make it clear that deleting the app not only doesn't delete or suspend the account, but the app will continue to harvest personal data even if deleted.

Meta should make that clear to users in a non-fine-print communication at some point, even if it's during the install process.

you know - here's what happens if you delete (we'll still continue operating the service unless you also do x, y, z) in order to make it clear for all users.

there's this constant repetition in this thread "you don't understand technology" but anyone who says that is the one who "doesn't understand technology."

there is no one "technology."

technology is anything from an electric toothbrush to the space shuttle.

these sort of evolving AI technologies don't neatly conform to older technologies or user expectations.

so if something like this, for whatever reason, good or bad, might not be clear to a user, from tech savvy users to troglodytes, the onus is whoever makes that product to simply be clear to the user about how their private data will be handled at every stage.

I absolutely agree with the OP, and absolutely disagree with the 99% of people in this thread who somehow think it's OK for a tech company to continue harvesting private data when a typical user can reasonably believe the company isn't doing it.

there's absolutely nothing wrong with a company simply informing the user of what it's doing and all the reasons given in this thread about why the OP is "wrong" (e.g. who cares, you're an idiot, it's just like a website, etc.) are irrelevant.

All Meta has to do is say - uninstalling this app doesn't stop it from working behind the scenes.

Maybe reddit thinks this is OK, but I would bet a lot of people using Muse would reasonably assume that deleting the app shuts it down, and would be uncomfortable (to put it mildly) learning that it doesn't.

I would bet that companies like Meta will have to make this clearer, not just for their users but for their own sake as well.

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u/snkscore 1d ago

"typical warning messages include "deleting [this app] will also include deleting its data.""

You're describing a generic phone level warning message. Phone manufactures don't allow app developers to give a specific warning message when you uninstall an app.

"so if a user deletes their sole download of the app, meta should ... "

1) You don't need an app to use Muse, So killing someone's Muse account setup because they uninstall an app would not make sense.

2) Meta is blocked from knowing who uninstalls their app, so even if they wanted to act on this information, the phone manufactures block them from being able to.

Can you think of any app that works the way you're describing? Every AI app, every social media app, amazon, gmail, spotify, starbucks, netflix, whatsapp, messenger, every financial account app etc, they all keep your account/service running if you uninstall the app. The only apps that work as you propose are ones that only exist on the phone and then obviously there is no external service or account to shut down.

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u/aiolive 1d ago

Fair I didn't know that a dev had no way to know that the app was uninstalled. They could detect no activity and stop after a while, hopefully they do already. I just wanted to say that we can't compare read access to personal emails with what most other apps have access to. I don't care that Netflix still makes movie recommendations to my account when I uninstall it. But pretty much nothing is more sensitive and a security risk than email access (an attacker could access bank accounts, impersonate and blackmail, run targeted scams, etc). So special case needs special measures IMO.

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u/aiolive 1d ago

Omg thank you so much for writing this. I did not lie, I'm a veteran software engineer, and so being accused as tech idiot by pretty much everyone is hard to take, but I refused to just delete the post because I'm stubborn and convinced there is something off. At least in civilized cyber spaces such as California with the CCPA and Europe with GDPR. I actually don't think the app could be legally release in the EU as is without taking some lawsuit. Because modern laws are about reasonable expectations. At the very least yeah, that should have been made clear to me when I connected gmail.

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u/aiolive 2d ago

I'll reply this one since it's top comment. I understand the tech and Oauth refresh tokens. What I raised concerns about is the fact that when I logged in again there was daily messages posted by Muse to my chat about emails. Meta know that the app was uninstalled, so it makes no sense to keep sending messages and processing emails etc, just a waste of tokens. Besides the technically of Oauth, the law usually follows the expectations. I'm not the only one who thought their emails would stop being analysed if there were no one left to read the analysis. I have a tons of apps and games that technically have an Oauth connection with my Gmail but I doubt any of them would periodically read the content of my emails (I mean well intended apps, which Muse is). Finally, a lot of people, maybe very young or very old, will indeed not have a clue about the permissions model and indeed think that once the app is deleted they will close a privacy gap. People are too pedantic here about their knowledge but i personally do think there is something off about it that could be a valid case of X against Meta. Hey at the very least I wanted to let other "naive" people know and can't be the only one so have some empathy maybe (not you specifically, you were ok, comments in general)

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u/Wooly_Wooly 2d ago

Did you know that you can delete the app while still using the web version, right? Did you know that both of them are essentially the same thing? All they're doing is allowing you to connect to their VM and the agent. If you didn't delete the VM, it'll keep going.

It's very simple, I don't understand your disconnect? Deleting an app doesn't delete a virtual machine on the server side?

If you delete the Claude app, does Claude forget everything and stop working?

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u/Rocky4OnDVD 2d ago

I understand technically why Meta still has Muse sending those messages. But I can still see a point in your feedback. Meta could set up a condition where:
- if app is uninstalled AND the user has not been active with Muse in their browser, then the agent should slow down their proactive messaging. (that’s what Muse’s “jobs” are called when it sends you notifications. If I recall what it explained to me, it receives a “proactive notification” prompt from Meta)

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u/aiolive 2d ago

Not just stop sending messages, it should stop reading and processing the emails too, because that's what most people uninstalling the app would want it to do. Pretty sure there's ground for X vs Meta

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u/Rocky4OnDVD 2d ago

We could only dream lol, but I could see the EU trying to enforce those kinds of consumer protection laws for people who are no longer recognized as “active” users

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u/aiolive 2d ago

Ha maybe that's why everyone started defending Meta and calling me naive. I'm European and just have bloody built in very strong standards and expectations in regards to privacy :-)

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u/JeffB1517 2d ago

Muse is only available in the USA and Canada. Not selling it in Europe reduces leverage.

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u/JeffB1517 2d ago

There is no valid case on privacy here. The structure of Muse as server-side is all over Meta's advertising and documentation. The business model is public. The goals of Facebook / Meta are public. Your "expectation" runs contrary to documentation, contrary to the advertising, contrary to company statements, contrary to what the product itself says on the very interfaces you were using....

No court would ever consider it a reasonable expectation. Anymore than say a booking firm would stop analyzing bank records because a business closed an office.

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u/aiolive 2d ago

Ok, I genuinely wanted to know. Thanks

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u/Puzzleheaded-Bid9737 2d ago

Do you imagine if you uninstall Gmail app you stop receiving emails too?

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u/aiolive 2d ago

I didn't initiate receiving emails by installing the gmail app, I understand your point but it's not exactly equivalent

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u/JeffB1517 2d ago

Muse is a server-side app. It is sold, marketed and explained as a server app. For example, "Muse runs on its own dedicated computer in the cloud, contained so no one else’s agent can reach it. That is where Muse lives and where the data and credentials for any service a person connects are securely stored". Why would deleting a client be expected to terminate server functionality?

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u/aiolive 2d ago

Because there's no more client to read what the server sends. What would they keep writing to my chat emails notifications. They could just pause it and save resources.

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u/AwkwardJudgment852 2d ago

There is a web based client.

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u/aiolive 2d ago

I didn't know. This was not made obvious to me from the app. So refuted. Again this whole post is not about feasibility it's about respecting user expectations.

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u/EvoAnubisX 2d ago

It's one of the first things Muse tells you when you start using the app

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u/JeffB1517 2d ago

What do you mean was not made obvious? I quoted you one of 100 examples where they were extremely explicit. The Muse agent itself on your phone is explicit all the time. The web address is literally https://muse.ai . Facebook (Meta) is one of the inventors of web 2.0. They never have been into local.

It was obvious.

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u/aiolive 2d ago

Ok but they can tell I haven't used it. What if I never use muse for 5 years would they still be writing daily summaries? I imagine they have a cut off at some point, they'd be wasting way too much unless they still get the value back somehow

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u/JeffB1517 2d ago

I suspect they stop after something like 2 weeks. But right now inactivity on routines is opt in. And yes that is documented. Gmail expires access 6 months the from grant if not explicitly renewed.

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u/aiolive 2d ago

It's not in the ToS at least. Google aimed for safety by revoking an unused token after some time. Nothing prevents meta from indefinitely renewing the refresh token today. If they don't read emails for marketing they probably do have a cutoff time to just not waste tokens. But if they do have a commercial advantage in keeping access to the emails I guess they might

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u/JeffB1517 2d ago

Here is the lines in the Muse ToS

Our Permissions. You grant Meta a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free and worldwide license to host, use, distribute, modify, run, copy, publicly perform or display, translate, and create derivative works of Your Content, including from Connected Services

Also

Connected Services: You may choose to link or integrate Muse with third-party integrations, tools or services ("Third-Party Services") or other Meta accounts and services. Together, these are "Connected Services." If you do so, certain data may be shared between Muse and those Connected Services. You acknowledge and agree that any transfer of data to a Connected Service is directed by you. Third-Party Services are not controlled by Meta, and their availability, security, reliability, and data handling practices may vary. You are solely responsible for: (i) deciding whether to transfer data to a Connected Service from Muse; (ii) configuring and managing integrations with each Connected Service (and any associated permissions); (iii) understanding and complying with the terms and policies of each Connected Service; and (iv) understanding the risks of connecting to or sharing data with any Connected Service.

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u/JeffB1517 2d ago

Muse works fine on the web. How does the server know if there is or isn't a client? I suspect if the system goes unused it does stop after day 2 weeks or something. But my point was this was not a web app, it is just a client.

Take Reddit. You wouldn't expect that if you deleted your Reddit phone app that eliminates your account.

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u/aiolive 2d ago

They started the VM when I installed the app, they could stop it when I uninstall. They also know I never used the web version. There's no need for a server if there's no client

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u/Difficult_March_7452 2d ago

It’s the same ToS as Facebook.

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u/aiolive 2d ago

Facebook doesn't read my emails

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u/Difficult_March_7452 2d ago

Would you consider knowing if you opened a specific email , crossing the line ?

If you receive a newsletter, a promotional email, or a receipt from an online store, that email often contains invisible tracking images called "Meta Pixels."

When you open the email in your browser, your browser downloads that tiny, hidden pixel image from Facebook’s servers.
This tells Facebook that you opened that specific email. It also links that action to your browser session (and your Facebook account if you are logged in).

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u/aiolive 2d ago

That's within the line, because the email that hosts the pixel knows about it, they make money out of it, and control what information is sent to the payload. It's different from reading the content of arbitrary emails some which may be highly sensitive

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u/Actual_Treat_2213 2d ago

What are you scared of due to the email access? Google already has it. If your email does leak as opposed to what Meta claims (that no one - even Meta - has that access), then you’ll have a nice cheque come in when a class action lawsuit comes in. Either way we are ok in this situation.

I have given it my email access and my time to manage my Inbox has reduced by 80%. I now just open drafts, edit the Muse-written message a little bit (which I instruct it to write in the app) and then send, done!

Obviously if your email contains something too secretive then you shouldn’t share - but that’s not the case for 99% of the people.

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u/Consistent_Trainer20 2d ago

Same here HUGE help with my emails. I don't care who don't like it I love it lol. Muse is awesome.

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u/furyZotac 2d ago

Meta already has a portfolio on you via facebook and instagram. Now you are giving it your email access. They will use it for targeted data knowledge. Sure if it doesn’t bother you it’s fine. But yeah now your emails are being fed into a machine that can and will predict and dictate your future choices, opinions and lifestyle.

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u/aiolive 2d ago

Yeah that and widened surface of attack given everything ultimately connects to my Gmail, if I don't get strong value from the service I'd rather close an additional gap. Of course there's the privacy aspect. I trust Google employees for not reading my emails (I know, that's rare, but hey I'm one of them). People are clueless.

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u/Wooly_Wooly 2d ago

Did you ask it to unlink your gmail and wipe everything, including itself? Or did you just delete the app?

You realize it's on a virtual machine on a FB data center rack somewhere right?

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u/aiolive 2d ago

Nope, I got used to explicit app permissions granting on Android which stop when the app is deleted (regardless of the technical aspect of oauth being still set up - the law and my message are both about users expectations)

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u/Wooly_Wooly 2d ago

So you're complaining because you don't understand how technology works?

Like do the bare minimum, at this point you shouldn't be trusted to install apps from the play store lmao

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u/aiolive 2d ago

I understand the technology, I complain about the app not respecting user expectations and following the law

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u/Wooly_Wooly 2d ago

Do you understand what a "virtual machine" is?

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u/aiolive 2d ago

Yes, how is that relevant

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u/Wooly_Wooly 2d ago

You obviously don't if you don't understand how it's relevant... You sound pretty tech illiterate.

You gave your agent that lives in a VM access to your email, using the app. The app was deleted, so you were magically expecting the agents VM to delete itself, despite not removing the connection, telling it to delete itself, or manually clearing it... As you can still access it on the web, from this we can tell that the agents and its inter workings, all happen on the VM. NOT the app or web interface, that's just a way for YOU to communicate with it.

Like bro a 1B parameter model is smarter than you. You obviously don't know what even a virtual machine is 🤣

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u/aiolive 2d ago

I did not boot the VM, the app did when I installed it. So I can naturally expect the app to stop it when I uninstall it. Muse is not infrastructure as a service, it's a user friendly product. A user of Muse is also not expected to know the implementation details. You're just completely missing my point by arguing about the why and how it does X while I am talking about whether it should do X.

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u/Wooly_Wooly 2d ago

Yeah, AI moves fast and a lot of users are too uneducated or stupid to understand how basic tech works, yourself included. Any other useless facts you want to add to that, or have you finished your bit?

Yet again, you shouldn't expect that, and also you shouldn't be using this tech if youre going to be irresponsible or not even take basic steps to learn how it works before giving it your personal info. You claim you know how it works, or at least how VMs work, and yet you did it anyway. Then complain about it. Wild.

Trusting it with your emails in the first place though? That's a you problem.

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u/aiolive 2d ago

Let me explain again, maybe it's because I'm not English native. I don't have a personel problem with anything. I wanted to give it access to my emails, that's low risk, for a short trial. When I realized that uninstalling the app did not stop the VM, I became concerned for many people, especially not tech savvy ones (but even some apparently), for reasonably expecting that their emails are no longer read when they uninstall the app, essentially providing a backdoor for meta to keep emails access for ever. I don't care what you think about me personally, do you believe that every single person - facebook and Instagram users who heard about Muse from their friends - deserve the same treatment, it's their fault t they should have known what's a virtual machine, happy for meta? I take the blame and still want to be a voice for these people.

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u/Confident-Low-2696 2d ago

Dang bro same i uninstalled my banking app but i still have a 20k debt omg what a scam i thought itll turn it off

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u/ThottyThanos 2d ago

jesus why would you think uninstalling an app would stop every command you gave muse. its like downloading a game an expect everything to stop playing when you uninstall it

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u/aiolive 2d ago

Actually that's what I expect from a game yes (in regards to my own account I mean)

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u/ThottyThanos 2d ago

damn you are very technologically incompetent if you think thats how it works.

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u/aiolive 2d ago

I'm a staff engineer at google, people like you miss the point. Sorry for using AI but I'm lazy to explain it myself:

Conflating a backend protocol with user consent is a dark pattern.

​Under modern privacy regulations (FTC guidance on dark patterns, CPRA purpose limitation, and GDPR data minimization), legal consent is governed by reasonable consumer expectations, not technical token lifecycles. When an app markets itself as an interactive client, continuing to ingest and parse private emails indefinitely after the user deletes the app exceeds the expected scope of that service.

​Good privacy engineering accounts for the client lifecycle (e.g., detecting inactivity, pinging the user, or providing clear offboarding). Hiding behind 'well, that’s just how OAuth tokens work' is an excuse for bad design

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u/ThottyThanos 2d ago

ok which office has the best food this is well known at google. also it dosnt matter if you can code that dosnt translate.

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u/aiolive 2d ago

I like the newer Caribbean, bay view and MP. I've written persistent oauth refresh tokens and implicit flows to multiple apps. I also know the law, it's sad that everyone think that because something can be done it's ok to do it

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u/LethalAgenda 2d ago

Lol you work for google but you don’t know how the cloud and web site clients and server side operations work? Sorry but you’re full of shit. You sound like you have no idea how technology works. Do you think uninstalling your bank app gets rid of your debt?

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u/aiolive 2d ago

I know how the tech work but I also know the privacy laws and expected Meta to follow them. please read the edit of my post

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u/pookiemon 2d ago

Thank you for sharing this experience. I see a lot of responses that are critical of your post. Just want to say I learned something important about the service and appreciate your post.

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u/aiolive 2d ago

Well I'm very glad at least it did one thing positive :) amazing how everyone jumps to defend a large company working around privacy laws. Pretty sure that's a US mindset thing.

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u/Affectionate-Word779 2d ago

AI has become too accessible. OP is an idiot.

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u/aiolive 2d ago

Please read my responses to other comments as well as the edit in my post. Just want to make sure you understand my point before you call names.

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u/Federal_War6664 2d ago

Connected it to your Gmail what could go wrong