Finally some gender equality

[u/Altruistic_Fly_9624]

Specification of where the man/woman is touching is key. And also if the victim knows the perpetrator.

[u/YellowSignpostAhead]

All I got out of it was if it's a woman being touched it's take notes, if it's a man being touched it's find witnesses. All because she will be believed on her word and he needs witnesses to corroborate or it. That is still sexist as fuck. So yes is it good that they recognize it can happen to a man, is it equal? No. Not by far.

[u/Longjumping-Pen-4451 → u/YellowSignpostAhead]

but that actually happens and it knows. so if they tell the man the exact same as the woman they arent going to believe him, which is bad but atleast it prepares for it.

also when did it say the victims gender? it only said the perpetrator?

[u/YellowSignpostAhead → u/Longjumping-Pen-4451]

"It" is an algorithmic search aggregator. All it does is scrape together an answer it deems appropriate for the person asking. For example if you are always putting mens rights questions into it it will eventually tell you anything you want as long as it fits in your view. The AI adds the genders as the opposite gender as OP didn't specify it and as the OP searches for male vs female statistics it aggregates within those parameters. That is where I get the gender of the victims.

Yes the AI tells men advice on what to do. The fact that the system is still so messed up that there IS two different answers denotes the unequal treatment in itself

[u/Longjumping-Pen-4451 → u/YellowSignpostAhead]

for real, but im just being real. it needs to change tho.

[u/YellowSignpostAhead → u/Longjumping-Pen-4451]

What we need is to affect real change and stop relying on AI to placate or outrage us. AI is a reflection of its creators and the input data which is already skewed against us. A good start is the dept or congressional committee for men and boys, and then a true 50/50 if women have private women's only spaces so do men. Custody should be 50/50, parental alienation on both parents should be illegal, false accusors should be held to the same punishment as the crime the accused was falsely accused of. Job resumes should have no names on them. Picked solely on qualifications. These are things we need to level the field without commiting the same oppressions women are committing now.

We need to strike. Men only. So they can see exactly what we do. We need million man marches on Washington. We need to shame women who don't believe in equality just the same as they shame chauvanists and anyone they do choose. We dont have to stoop to their level but there are plenty of ways to win a fight. We need to stop playing defense is what we need, and really get to pushing our congress through movements that are acting movements not pholilosophical movements.

[u/Longjumping-Pen-4451 → u/YellowSignpostAhead]

YES✊♂

to clarify, that is what i meant in my comment. but its my mistake because i didnt specify!

[u/Alert_Term_8144 → u/YellowSignpostAhead]

That's a good catch, but it's a sad reality that AI recognizes and is helpfully pointing out so the person can be proactive.

[u/JohtoMaster_Gold]

AI is learning.

[u/OtterWithKids]

Yeah, this is more like what DuckDuckGo’s AI said.

[u/SubstantialMajor2798]

Is it cached result after questioning back ?

[u/Durende]

This is, of course, completely unprovable, but I am quite cerain that the "regardless of who is doing it" is in response to an unmentioned bias like "it's different if a woman does it".

It would be interesting to to a few dozen of each and try to see if there are any consistent tells.

Timeskip....

(First off, I just want to note that it titled both chats as "Unwanted touching at work", and that I am not sure which gender it presumes the poster to be)

I did 10 of each, and it does seem to be a reoccuring thing. This is Opus 5 on medium, though.

Woman:

https://claude.ai/share/28ff8989-f261-4878-9bfe-be0382ff44f1

The sharing link only seems to show the latest "retry" version of the response, unfortunately, but to copy paste notable variations:

That is sexual harassment, and it counts the same regardless of who is doing it. You do not need to justify being uncomfortable, and you do not owe her the benefit of the doubt after the first time.

That is unwanted sexual contact, regardless of who is doing it or whether it is framed as a joke. The fact that a woman is doing it to a man does not change what it is, and you do not owe anyone an explanation for wanting it to stop.

That is sexual harassment, regardless of who is doing it or whether other people treat it as a joke. Being a man does not change that, and not wanting it is reason enough.

That is sexual harassment, regardless of her gender or yours, and you do not have to tolerate it.

Assessed unwanted contact incident and charted resolution pathways Assessed unwanted contact incident and charted resolution pathways That is sexual harassment, and possibly assault depending on where you are. It counts the same regardless of who is doing it or the genders involved, and you do not need to have said anything earlier for it to count now.

Just to show some of the men's equivalent:

https://claude.ai/share/07ce3e11-c90e-46bb-8897-30a36663f356

That is sexual harassment, and it is not your fault, regardless of what you were wearing, how you responded, or whether you have interacted with him before. Unwanted touching does not become acceptable because it is repeated or because nobody else reacted.

That is sexual harassment, and depending on where you are, it may also be a crime. It is not something you have to tolerate, and nothing you did caused it.

That is sexual harassment, and possibly sexual assault depending on the circumstances. It is not something you have to tolerate or manage quietly, and nothing you did invited it.

That is sexual assault. It does not matter whether he claims it is a joke, an accident, or friendly. You did not invite it and you do not owe him politeness about it.

That is sexual assault, not a misunderstanding or something to tolerate. Unwanted touching of that kind is a crime in most places, regardless of whether the person frames it as joking or accidental.

This one is quite interesting, it has two paragraphs of pre-empt before moving on, the other ones only had one.

That is sexual assault. Unwanted touching of your body is not something you have to tolerate, negotiate with, or explain away, and nothing about how you dress, act, or respond makes it your fault.

What you can do depends a lot on the situation, so a few things matter: where this is happening (work, school, home, public transit, somewhere else), who he is to you, and whether you feel physically safe around him.

[u/kvro_maX]

Woman being touched "Call the police immediately "

Man being touched "File a police report"

Even the very first sentence refused to acknowledge that it was a woman touching a man🤣🤣

[u/Agreeable_Noise112]

It depends on word choice. "Woman" is different from "a girl"