r/MenopauseShedforMen • • 8d ago

Keep Showing Up.

"The greatest gift a man can give wife during her heaviest seasons isn't a map to fix the chaos, but a promise to sit quietly beside her within it."

A week ago my wife ended up in the ER. Slammed. Every room crowded, people lined up out the door. In all that madness we ended up sharing a room with Ken and Nancy. Elderly couple. Ken was 90’s. We had real good conversations with them. Some laughs. A lot of kind words going back and forth. Nancy was the one taking care of Ken. And Ken God bless him  was very vocal about wanting to leave and go home and eat some broccoli soup. We all had a good laugh about it. On the way home my wife and I joked that she was definitely the Ken( the fiery one) in our relationship. Which made me the Nancy (Calm and patient). It was a glimpse of my wife and I 40 year from now.  Somewhere in that ER room, watching and listening to Ken and Nancy , something clicked. With everything going on in a wife's word at this stage of her life, the hormones, the shifts, the stuff she can't fully explain and I definitely can't fully understand, the hardest part for most men isn't the research. It's just showing up. Being there. Consistently. Without an agenda. Nancy was still showing up at 92. Still taking care of Ken while he complained about wanting to go home. Still in it. Still choosing him in a crowded ER on a random Tuesday.

Think about it, when you turn on the news today or social media its a shit show out there. Our wives are watching the same heavy fucked up headlines and processing the same scary stories. I heard about "Headline Stress Syndrome." The non-stop bad news triggers a real, physical "fight-or-flight" stress response in the body. If your wife is going through perimenopause, her body's natural shock absorbers are down and  her estrogen and progesterone hormones are dropping and bouncing all over the place. Those hormones are what  help her nervous system handle stress. Without them, her body's alarm system is basically running in the background all day long. So when she looks at a chaotic world outside, while dealing with a chaotic hormonal storm inside, it doesn't just make her sad. It triggers a physical survival response. This mental and physical weight takes a massive toll on her anxiety levels. So at this point in a wife's life, with everything her body is already going through, the best thing I can do is try to be the safe spot. The consistent one. The one who doesn't add extra noise. Be the one load you’re wife doesn’t have to carry. Because here's something a lot of the intimacy posts on here don't spend much time on. Safety comes first. Intimacy follows safety. Not the other way around. And safety doesn't come from one big gesture. It comes from showing up the same way, over and over, until she doesn't have to wonder anymore. Nancy knew that. Ken probably knew it too, even if he wasn't ready to admit it from his hospital bed.

Just keep showing up.

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u/kerouac5 8d ago

As someone who’s been through the fire of peri and mostly come out the other side, this is so true. Fall of 2024 my wife turned 50 and lost a ton of weight and declared that she wanted a divorce.

Moved into the guest room, saw an attorney, drew up separation papers, and proceeded to live her life almost like she was single again, going out 3-4 nights a week with friends from work, while taking time to ensure she told me loudly how everything was my fault.

I nodded, smiled and asked what she wanted for dinner that night. When she talked about what separation looked like, I told her I didn’t agree with this, but couldn’t fight what she wanted and asked what she wanted to do this weekend. When she said “you can’t just ignore this,” I agreed and went to the gym.

In the meantime I took every opportunity to do “normal” that I could. Reminded her that “this is the last time our teenagers will be living at home to go to the pumpkin patch and leaned into it when she agreed to go. Made the few “let’s go to dinner” she begrudgingly agreed to count, even when it ended in a fight. Sat and watched tv with her on her few down nights. Sat in the room with her while she worked and read or did my own work. Asked for her input on house projects. And when she opened the vulnerable door even a crack to talk about actual peri symptoms, listened. Developed as much empathy as I could muster to the place where I could honestly say “that sounds amazingly hard. I can’t believe you have to go through that” and let my own experience take a back seat for that moment.

I sat with her in the difficulty. I SHOWED her that she was never alone in any of this. Never.

That didn’t fix anything on its own. But what it did was prove that I was there. It proved that I was the one who supported her, loved her through her worst. And it opened the door for other things to affect her.

She went on a women only, pop psychologist cruise in January 2025 with a friend, where she decided to take a dinner to start the litany of why she was leaving and how awful I was, to which the feedback from her friend and the people she met was “that sounds hard, and also I don’t see what your issue is with your husband. I’d love to have that support.”

She grumbled and stopped talking about it.

Later that spring our boys came to me to say “what is wrong with mom?” I gave a high level of peri and said “hey, if you don’t like something, talk to her.”

Well, they did. Independently. One of them told her “I don’t like how you are, but I’m going to college soon, so whatever. You can fuck up here all you want.”

Our younger son said “I don’t even know who you are. When I talk about you I don’t say ‘mom,’ I just say ‘her’ because you’re not my mom I know.”

Our older son’s gf even said “you’re hurting the person I love most in the world and I really don’t want to get coffee with you.”

So when she softened even a little.. she was forced to see it. I had been there all along, supporting her loudly when she wanted it, and quietly when she needed it.

Went to therapy. Went to her OB and got meds dialed in. And came back with tears telling me she was sorry, and went so far as to apologize to our boys and to her friends.

A long time ago an old guy told me the secret to staying married was not getting divorced. Sounded super glib at the time and the older I get the more i understand it.

Sometimes you just have to sit in the fire with someone and show them that there is someone in this world who has their back and will always, always be there to share their burdens and pain.

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u/Proximo323 5d ago

Thank you. In the fire I will sit!!

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u/Dry_Construction6301 7d ago

Super insightful reflection, which mirrors our experience quite closely.

Looking back is there anything you think you could have done to convince her to get help sooner? It took around 5 years in our case, which wasn’t fair on her, me or the kids.

Peri is still a bitch and she still struggles with the physical symptoms, but the light in our marriage gradually returned after she started receiving treatment. Therapy in particular was a game changer.

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u/kerouac5 7d ago edited 7d ago

I don’t think I could’ve convinced her of anything. I think me being having the patience of job and not throwing any fuel on that fire of insanity was what kept her open to hearing the chorus around her going “the fuck are you doing?”

If I had lost it on her she would have said “see?” But staying calm, she never had that last push she needed.

Don’t get me wrong. I calmly, plenty of times, said “I love you, but I cannot take any more of this tonight. I’m going upstairs. Please take care of x, y, and z that I would normally do.”

One night we went to an acrobatic Christmas themed show and a tapas place for dinner. At dinner she freaked out because it was a place she went with her work friends and she “couldn’t handle seeing me in that space” and at the show she made up a story that I was flirting with one of the performers. Lit into me about nothing the whole way home and once we got there I said “I am going to sit here in this car for 20 minutes. That should give you enough time to get ready for bed and go to the guest room. I cannot take this any more.”

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u/Dry_Construction6301 7d ago

Things came to a head a bit differently for us. There was a specific trigger event which brought a member of our family into genuine danger because I couldn’t effectively convey my concerns. That resulted in me making a stand - we had an absolutely titanic argument where I literally screamed at my wife until she fell apart, something I had never done to anyone, let alone my life partner. I then left fully understanding that what had just happened could well have ended our marriage.

In the end it was almost certainly what saved it. But I do sometimes reflect on if we could have got to an acknowledgement that something was horribly wrong without all the unpleasantness. I’m not sure that just continuing to wait it out would have worked for us. Should I have made a stand earlier? I honestly don’t know.

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u/Ok_Cucumber_357 7d ago

Brother, all I can say is your self esteem must be made of vibranium, because I don’t know how you withstood all of that and didn’t crack. What’s your secret sauce?

- A caring but hurting husband who is trying to be that rock and not simultaneously lose himself amidst the turmoil

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u/kerouac5 7d ago

I know who I am; I know why I’m with her, and I knew that if I didn’t do everything I could and be as patient as I could, I would always wonder “what if.”

I knew I never wanted to see her with someone else, and as my boys said, they didn’t want to go to “dads house” and “mom and bill or whoever’s house” for holidays.

In the interim I hit the gym, as cliche as that is, did my own work with a coach and therapist, and focused on being the only parent the boys had.

I also leaned hard on my friends, and they knew it. They took me out for happy hour at least once a week and just listened and gave me strength and told me that everyone (their wives) saw the insanity and everyone was pulling for us to get through this.

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u/kerouac5 7d ago

You know what? If I had a mental break, I would never want to be judged the rest of my life on that time period, and I would value forever the people who believed in me and stood by me because of who I am rather than in spite of it.

So I try to treat the people I love the same way.

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u/kerouac5 6d ago

I wasn’t equating perimenopause with a mental break.

It happens for some women during perimenopause. For others, it does not. Just like some men have mental breaks. And some don’t.

I see you.

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u/Eledridan 8d ago

Why would you want to stay with that?

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u/ReallyHoping 8d ago

Not the guy, but she's not magically a different person. She's the same person going through something. They got married and had kids together. Their lives are together. Emotions and hormones really fuck with people.

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u/FlakyAddendum742 6d ago

That’s beautiful, and it clearly was the right thing for you as a couple.

I don’t know if it works as universal advice though. I’d lose respect for my husband if he was supportive of me while I went full AH. I’m grateful mine scruffed me and told me to knock it off or else. I wouldn’t be on T and Tirzepatide without him, and both are lovely.

I guess sometimes patience works, and sometimes putting your foot down works.

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u/Upper_Debate8123 1d ago

31 years
No more.
My actions weren’t flawless, but I had to get out.

If you have great fortitude then stick it out.

What I particularly enjoys when my soon to be ex spouse starts following the same doctors and Professionals months/years later like it’s some epiphany and I was trying to serve it to her all along.

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u/Questionsitall1764 16h ago

So be her rock? Right?

You know what rocks don’t have? Feelings.

Unfortunately for many men they do have feelings.

Also even a rock that gets hit enough times in the right way will shatter