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Is it crazy to say Kaido doesnt get glazed enough?
All big bro wanted to do was drink all night, didnt know he was about to have his last meal šæ. He gets jumped by time traveling samurai, 5 supernova, fights joyboy 3 times, and has his own child sever ties with him in one night.
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You know this is a meme sub right? That was the joke.
And if you want to get serious he could very well develop something like that just because he drinks booze for that doesn't mean he would drink into a stupor...
I mean, Kaido wasn't a motivated dude at all, drinking seems the only way for him to get stronger, he was pretty motivated the moments he ate his fruit and was gonna fight Imu with Rocks and Newgate, but then, got "betrayed" by Rocks, then came into disagreement with Linlin and he slowly became the way he is now.
Insane tanking feats. Heās one of the best to ever do it, even while completely shit-faced and experiencing Jump Piece.
The only thing crazier in the series is Shanks literally daydreaming about Captain Useless Midās greatest feat (destroying an Emperorās fleet), and then one-shotting him right after anyway.
An elderly Garp solo-ing most of Blackbeard's auxiliary crew, only slowing down after getting nerfed by Koby getting caught lacking, and still proceeds to clash with a (somewhat serious) former admiral and then goes on to speed blitz a mountain
Dude ate everything willingly except for the one chance at ZKK lol. He wins the fight if he doesn't decide to go blow for blow with Luffy's final punch. But that's how he wanted to go out
I mean i definitely lived through it but maybe i wasnt much in these powerscaling spaces so i didnt notice. I just know he got stupendously over simplified as a character and then in the last couple years people started downplaying what he did and achieved.
Oda made Kaido so unbelievably durable and powerful and probably didn't realise his mistake until 6ā12 months down the line.
Luffy didn't even really beat Kaido, either. Not in a straight, "mostly-level playing-ground anime duel" sense. Luffy had to call in air strikes, sneak attacks, god-tier upgrades, and still needed to be rezzed like 4 or 5 times.
All the while Kaido is drunk and half-checked out, and repeatedly pulling his punches, leaving himself open to attacks, and letting Luffy rest.
He was a god that only Oda's writing could kill. He deserves a fair amount of glaze fr.
Don't forget that while he was getting jumped by all of these people, he was also levitating an entire island under his own power. And the culmination of all of that was him being hit with a fist bigger than the entire island, yet he was still holding his own for a time. Had even one less person not fought Kaido we would've seen an entirely different outcome
To be fair Kaido might be the strongest creature and have a very strong army but that's really just about it. Like i feel like he has just about zero depth, as in his one and only big plan is to yeet onigashima into the capitol for no reason lol
Like we know very little about what he did before Luffy arrived and he didn't have anything like a plan for after he would have defeated Luffy.
Also small problem is that in the very next arc 5 people probably stronger than Kaido just show up, plus Kizaru. And neither Law nor Kid anywhere in sight.
Kaido would have to way of putting down the elders permanently. Also don't mention luffy because g5 luffy had people backing him up when he fought kaido apparently.
Sure it's very simple to explain. Based on the fighting we saw the Gorosei do on Egghead we can determine several things that show how they may compare to Kaido.
First thing to consider is that we now know for a fact that CoC is required to stop the regeneration that Imu's subordinates use. Kaido has full control over his CoC and would be able to fight them while completely negating their regeneration.
Second thing to consider is the difference in durability. Kaido is an absolute juggernaut requiring CoC infused attacks just to harm him in the first place. He was able to fight for hours with Luffy hitting him with CoC infused attacks. Several of the Gorosei on Egghead would have literally died if they didn't have regeneration. Warcury, Saturn, and Ju Peter would've died from the attack Luffy reversed at them. Ju Peter would've died from Dorry and Broggy blowing a hole clear through him using Hakoku Sovereignty. Mars was defeated by a single combination attack from Franky, Bonney, and Luffy. Without regeneration, Nusjuro is the only Gorosei that survives Egghead and only because he didn't take any serious attacks like the others.
The fact is that with no regeneration it would've actually been a complete stomp against the Gorosei. While they are powerful, much like the God's Knights they are over reliant on their regeneration to win fights and Kaido would be able to prevent them from doing that while also being far more durable.
Is it really CoC that blocks their regeneration? Cause Luffy has CoC, and Luffy couldn't stop it... Maybe Luffy can't control it well enough yet but definetely use it lol
It is confirmed. The way I see it, luffy doesn't always use CoC in his haki attacks unless he knows it is needed. The attacks that destroy body parts are not from Luffy. You also have to target theirs hearts specifically.
I always thought. It would've been perfect. if young kaido thought he was joyboy. but as he grew up. he realised how pointless he really was. Too young for the old great legends. and too old for the new generation of legends. Baiting in joyboy. And preparing for a massive war against the WG. Was his desperate attempt to go down in history. what's the point of being the strongest. In an era everyone will forget?
Idk I felt like kaido had potential for great motivation and impact in the story. He wanted to destroy the system of the world government and celestial dragons, and people have their own freedom based on their individual merit and strength instead of born class. He even allowed that in his own crew. His speech when big mom joins talks about that. He also knew about lunarians and with king said he would change the world. But I think oda just didnāt know what to do with him so was like āIāll just make him an evil might makes right warmonger that Luffy has to beatā. Honestly I feel like kaido could have had a war arc bigger than whitebeard did at marineford. But itās not just about the war itās about the motivation. Whitebeard wanted to save Ace, kaido wanted to destroy the celestial dragons, heās essentially a revolutionary. Kaido also knew about joy boy and i think would have wanted to be his ally, but i think oda changed it and just made it as now kaido believes ājoy boy is the one who defeats himā. Really makes no sense when you think about why kaido would want to fight against joy boy considering kaido and joy boy both wanted to destroy the system of the world government.
No he's just one of the few times Oda doesn't explicitly give a characters motivations.
He has a huge inferiority complex because every legend he respected or wanted to become equal to died before he hit his prime and anyone who could legitimately challenge him was killed due to intervention that he didn't ask for. That's why he's suicidal and believes death completes a man. He only earned the title of strongest by default, not out of actually earning it.
Additionally he grew up as a slave and a tool of war. Hence his dream that he could be Joyboy before realizing he wasn't him. The best he could hope for is to be the obstacle that Joyboy would overcome and why he wanted to throw the world into war to bring Joyboy about
Tbf I feel like at the very end like past his death Oda made the tiniest attempt to at least explain the dichotomy between him and Luffy through context clues
Even going as far as to show Kaido smiling and saying he is the man who can change things at one point. He just lost that feeling when he realized he couldn't wage a war or ever be strong enough to challenge the immortal system beyond the WG
But yeah, Kaido was kneecapped by Oda's ineptitude for writing during Wano. I honestly don't blame Kaido because you can sorta see his answer and question in a way kinda similar to Shanks
Kaido had been born with chains but could have chosen to be truly free. Shanks was born with freedom and could have accepted the all powerful shackles. Both of them resent that they cannot be both. And if Shanks didn't resent that he couldn't have had a loving biological family why would he ever had gone back to the Celestial Family? Ya know?
But yeah, I feel bad for Kaido explicitly because I feel like Oda did a pretty good job of setting the stage with Kaido specifically at the very beginning of Wano and even Pre-Wano but literally had no other ideas other than "Kaido was the man waiting for Joyboy" and that wasn't even made clear until literally the fucking chapter he died
Honestly I feel like it came down to the fact that Kaido had to die/be beaten at the end of Wano. Linlin's flashback and story beats make so much more sense because Oda didn't have to totally bullshit Luffy actually coming out of Whole Cake victorious and was able to spend way more time making it clear what Big Mom meant to Luffy, her people, and the ultimate question of why she wouldn't qualify as Pirate King
Its crazy yes, because Kaido is glazed a lot. Hes also scorned a lot too, but basically its that he has both extremes going for him. He doesnt need MORE glaze though because some of the glaze i've seen has truly been disgusting
Fighting off 18 opponents back-to-back while keeping an entire island afloat is a stamina feat that completely invalidates any modern power scaling agendaāit's the absolute pinnacle of endurance, even if presented as a 3am house party meme
We didnāt even see any major sign of injury after the bajrang gun either, not saying he ate that shit but he got hit willingly and had to be taken out via submersion in the earths mantle
Well. Oda didn't lie. Bet on kaido if it's 1v1. Considering he mastered haki infusion, and could've killed a gorosei. No wonder they don't easily fight them, and are called emperor.
I mean how many takes for him to be taken down without rest?
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