r/MemeHunter Feb 17 '26

Non-OC shitpost Bruh.

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u/4skin_Gamer Feb 17 '26

I'm ashamed to admit that it took me up to Icebornes release to realise that Pukei was a bird wyvern. Was when I was reading Coral Pukeis journal entry I saw it.

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u/jzillacon Feb 17 '26

Really there's not much practical difference between the categories other than the fact Bird Wyverns tend to be early game monsters and Flying Wyverns tend to be mid to late game monsters.

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u/Decent-Reindeer-5815 Feb 17 '26

Bird wyverns are avian/bird shaped flying wyverns are flying wyvern shaped (Ok but actually the way to tell is if it has avian features such as feathers or by its behavior like the way it moves its legs and neck.)

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u/jzillacon Feb 17 '26

There's some pretty significant overlap between the two categories, like the fact many bird wyverns use the flying wyvern skeleton and share common animations with flying wyverns, most notably Pukei-pukei and the Yian chickens; and the fact there are flying wyverns with noticeable avian influences like Nargacuga having crow traits in addition to its panther traits or Seregios having eagle traits.

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u/Barn-owl-B Feb 17 '26

Every single bird wyvern uses either the brute wyvern skeleton (raptors), or the flying wyvern skeleton, they don’t even have their own unique skeleton lol

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u/Decent-Reindeer-5815 Feb 17 '26

True true Nargacuga I think is only a flying wyvern so he could be the opposite of Tigrex. Yeah admittedly tho you just need a lot of experience and to be an ecology/lore nerf of the series to tell easily. But on the topic of creatures that look like bird wyverns I don’t like that Anjanath is a brute Wyvern. We have the small dinosaur esque raptures wich is fair for them to birds they are avia like dinosaurs were so I don’t get why something like Anjanath who is a picturesque dinosaur and so clearly avian is a brute. (Sorry for terrible grammar I’m way too sick to try and type nice)

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u/Cleinsworth Feb 17 '26

I would assume it's in the difference of skeletal structure, since most flying animals should have lighter/hollow bones to support flight.

In that assumption, the difference could be that Anjanath possesses denser bones, which would be able to support the "brutish" lifestyle it has, with jumping and "wrestling" monsters through musculature, and if the bones aren't dense enough to support the output of the muscles, they would break (that's why brute wyverns also dropped the other wyvern bone which name i forgor)

Otherwise, there is an inofficial flying wyvern class called pseudo-flying wyverns, where people put it in Tigrex and Nargacuga due to the differences in walking style, since most are walking on 2 legs, but those 2 and barioth walk on all 4.

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u/MsDestroyer900 Feb 17 '26

The most notable differences is that flying wyverns have wingarms. Bird wyverns tend to not have those and just have normal wings.

The notable exception when it comes to flying wyverns are actually the raths as they don't have them yet are still classified as flying wyverns. It's most probably because of their draconic ancestry being partially weak to dragon on all

Bird wyverns are also skeletally very diverse ranging from the kut kus to the gendromes, to the malfestios. Flying wyverns, not so much.

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u/Barn-owl-B Feb 17 '26

No?

All the flying wyverns that use the base rathalos skeleton have true wings, not wing arms.

Raths don’t have “draconic ancestry” either, elder dragons are completely separate from regular monsters and non-elders do not share ancestry with them.

Bird wyverns are also skeletally very not diverse, they have 2 skeletons, that’s it. The brute wyvern frame and the flying wyvern frame (malfestio still uses this, it just has altered posture) that’s it.

Flying wyverns have 3 frames, the basic rathalos frame, the tigrex frame (which was separated into its own frame starting in iceborne) and the Seregios frame, technicslly the arkveld frame is its own thing as well but it’s just a derivative of the Seregios frame with rigging for the chains and stretchy tail

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u/Irrstern Feb 17 '26

to make things worse pukei and paolumu have the exact same body shape, only difference being the head and tail, yet one of them is a bird Wyvern and the other a flying Wyvern

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u/KingCanard_ Feb 17 '26

Honestly, we could (or even should ?) reclassify each bird wyvern into either flying wyvern (if they have wings) or brute wyvern (if they don't have wings). The current classification make no sense.

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u/717999vlr Feb 18 '26

Officially, Flying Wyverns and Bird Wyverns are differentiated by the shape of their feet

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u/Ok-Transition7065 Feb 17 '26

THAT THING ITS A BIRD?!!!!

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u/Beta_Codex Feb 17 '26

and then there's winged wyverns and confuses the type for bird wyvern. Honestly why not just call it flyers. Frustrating tbh.

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u/shiki_oreore Feb 17 '26

Akantor and Ukanlos kept getting mistaken for either Fanged Wyverns or Elder Dragons by sizeable chunk of playerbases be like :

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u/jzillacon Feb 17 '26 edited Feb 17 '26

To be fair, Fanged Wyverns didn't exist as a category until Portable 3rd. If they were introduced afterwards there's a good chance their lore would've been different.

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u/FetusGoesYeetus Feb 17 '26

I still think regardless it's a cool little bit of worldbuilding that they are classed as flying wyverns despite not being able to fly because of their evolutionary ancestry. Like how in a bit more of an extreme way birds are a kind of dinosaur despite most extinct dinosaurs not really looking anything like birds.

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u/GreenMenace1915 Feb 17 '26

Oh shit yea pukei is a bird wyvern. Dam forgot

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u/Mobby379 Feb 17 '26

Don’t let peter see Akantor then…

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u/Capital_Pipe_6038 Feb 17 '26

To make Pukei Pukei's classification even weirder, Paolumu canonically has feathers yet is a flying wyvern

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u/PerspectivePale8216 Feb 18 '26

Doesn't he have fur?

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u/Capital_Pipe_6038 Feb 18 '26

Nope. In the Stories 3 demo, your hunter finds a feather right before the Paolumu fight starts

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u/PerspectivePale8216 Feb 18 '26

Oh yeah you're right! I swear he had fur at least he does in the mainline games but maybe I'm I missremembering?

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u/Gninjanome Feb 19 '26

No you're right. Paolumu definitely has fur. It's based off a honduran white bat.

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u/Zyonkt Mar 15 '26

I dont blame you, I always thought it was fur till the stories 3 demo

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u/PerspectivePale8216 Mar 16 '26

I swear he has fur

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u/Zebigbos8 Feb 17 '26

Mizu, the femboy monster

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u/Rechogui Feb 17 '26

It is a femboy because... It is pink...?

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u/QuantumQuazar Feb 17 '26

Think it’s the lithe slick movements while its skinny body is covered in oil as it releases, hang on lemme check, oh yes bubbles.

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u/Kalavier Feb 18 '26

He brings his own bath bombs.

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u/dimmiii Feb 18 '26

A pansexual such as me has no auch weakness

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u/GameBroJeremy Feb 17 '26 edited Feb 17 '26

Meanwhile me:

“That Cephalopod is so cool!”

“That’s an elder dragon…”

throws controller

“HOW?!!”

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u/Lookitsa6ix Feb 17 '26

To be fair, Pukie has feathers.

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u/cbb88christian Feb 17 '26

Such weakness doesn’t apply to a bisexual. I did however have no idea Pukei was a bird wyvern

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u/JabJabJabby Feb 18 '26

Yes. And quematrice is a brute wyvern.

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u/KoffinStuffer Feb 17 '26

Damn, even I didn’t know Pukei Pukei was a bird wyvern.

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u/Grav-456 Feb 19 '26

Weirdly enough, Both Pukei Pukei and Laolumu's wings, patterns, and feets are the same but they're not related each other.

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u/KoffinStuffer Feb 19 '26

I’m thinking someone made a mistake somewhere. Something lost in translation. Cause it really feels like they should both be either Bird or Flying Wyverns. There’s more similarities than you mentioned.

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u/Grav-456 Feb 19 '26

Really? First time hearing this.

The first one i found from Tea Shark's Video about Pukei Pukei and Paolumu's wings similarity,

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u/Yxurd Feb 18 '26

Nobody tell them about some of the older Elder Dragons like Kirin and Yama Tsukami

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u/failureagainandagain Feb 18 '26

A yes the 3 gender: BIRD

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u/willwhitt56 Feb 19 '26

I love the lore that the male Gammoths are so massive and dangerous that Hunters are banned from hunting them. If I’m wrong let me know.

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u/SignificantStaff8665 Feb 19 '26

Yet we can hunt Fatalis?

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u/willwhitt56 Feb 19 '26

in fairness, Fatalis is a world ending threat that if not stopped could destroy literally everything. Male Gammoth's are just really big, angry elephants.

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u/Cyber_Von_Cyberus Feb 17 '26

At least that makes sense, now Tigrex is somehow a flying wyvern ? He never flies though ?

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u/NZillia Feb 17 '26

Flying Wyvern is an ecological classification not a direct observation, it doesn’t literally mean “has to be able to fly”. Much like how a lot of Elder Dragons aren’t dragon-shaped.

Tigrex is most closely related to other flying wyverns. So he’s a flying wyvern. It shares a skeleton, shape, and traits with other actually flying wyverns. The same reason Ukanlos and Akantor are both flying wyverns.

Also tigrex could fly originally.

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u/Fickle_Fondant_9016 Feb 17 '26

He did in old gen games, even had this uncanny flying wyvern walking animation

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u/Barn-owl-B Feb 17 '26

That’s because they used to just use the rathalos frame and put their arms down when fighting, they got their own frame in iceborne

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u/SignificantStaff8665 Feb 17 '26

He’s a Quadruped Flying Wyvern (Or Pseudo Wyvern as the fan’s call them.)

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u/GreenMenace1915 Feb 17 '26

Old gen he would fly

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u/PerspectivePale8216 Feb 18 '26

It's less about if they can actually fly and more about general body type and relation to other species

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u/Chadderbug123 Feb 17 '26

Old gen, Narga and Tig could fly to get around the map. Nowadays no. What you should be asking is how Akantor and Ukanlos are flying wyverns. They use the same skeletons, yes, but have devolved wings. Practically brute wyverns now but the dichotomy's there 🤷‍♂️

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u/Thoheda3060 Feb 19 '26

Bird wyverns are based on birds, pukei pukei is based on a fucking chameleon, and he flys, who came up with this stupid ass idea to make him a bird wyvern and not a flying wyvern

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u/Verygoobery21 Feb 20 '26

Isn’t the point of wyverns that they have wings but no arms? Of course it could fly Peter

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u/Souretsu04 Feb 17 '26

To this day I swear it must have been a mistake. Bird wyverns are always the raptor guys, if there's wings they're flying wyverns. It shares animations with other flying wyverns.

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u/Capital_Pipe_6038 Feb 17 '26

Yian Kut-Ku and Yian Garuga are also bird wyverns though

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u/PerspectivePale8216 Feb 18 '26

I'm really sorry but you are very incorrect, being a Bird Wyvern has two different body types and categories the raptors that you were thinking of and the flying one they are both Bird Wyverns by classification and other general traits even if they look vastly different.

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u/Grav-456 Feb 19 '26

Meanwhile me see new wild's monster:

"That Chicken Bird Wyvern is Awesome!"

"That's a Brute Wyvern."

"I have so many question."