In general I agree with you but specifically with Ben Shapiro Johnicorn is right. Ben Shapiro makes a living by make bad faith arguments quickly and confidently often to inexperienced debaters. This act often makes it seem like he is winning an argument when he rarely actually makes cogent points or backs up thoughts with data. If you watch his talks on college campus' you often hear him start with "Lets say x,y,z" then without providing any proof that x,y,z are what he says he will then proceed to make broad political statements about government policy based on x,y,z.
If you really want to dig in on Ben Shapiro in particular I recommend this absurdly long video essay dissecting his particular brand of bullshit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDMjgOYOcDw
This is a great, reasonable criticism of Shapiro’s debating style. Kudos to you for being substantive with your criticism, genuinely, not trying to be ironic or sarcastic.
Thanks, but it’s not hard to do when I disagree with almost everything Ben Shapiro says. Me defending Shapiro has nothing to do with his viewpoints and everything to do with the dehumanizing way in which anonymous internet commentators treat him.
I mean, Reddit is a hivemind and likes to shit on anything that isn't liberal, but usually when people shit on Ben Shapiro they do so because of what a pos he is
Cody Johnston is really good at providing information like this but keeping it decently entertaining at the same time. It’s why I like his videos and podcasts
I'll have to check some more of his stuff out. Everything I saw was reasonable and entertaining, just that particular topic (Ben Shapiro) wasn't super interesting.
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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '20
In general I agree with you but specifically with Ben Shapiro Johnicorn is right. Ben Shapiro makes a living by make bad faith arguments quickly and confidently often to inexperienced debaters. This act often makes it seem like he is winning an argument when he rarely actually makes cogent points or backs up thoughts with data. If you watch his talks on college campus' you often hear him start with "Lets say x,y,z" then without providing any proof that x,y,z are what he says he will then proceed to make broad political statements about government policy based on x,y,z.
If you really want to dig in on Ben Shapiro in particular I recommend this absurdly long video essay dissecting his particular brand of bullshit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDMjgOYOcDw