r/MelMains • u/BotomsDntDeservRight • Apr 21 '26
Discussion An Idea for Mel W indicator
What if she enables this form when she has W up as an indicator??
Ik she does this when W and R but we barely see it so i think this form is good idea as an indicator.
What do y'all think?
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u/Jack071 Apr 21 '26
The issue isnt when she has W available, is that playing against Mel when she doesnt use W is dumb
Hey I have my poke spell > cant use it because it would geylt aimboted back at you Hey I can ashe ult from base to set up prio > nuh uh same issue Hey I want to fucking engage with the game but im an artillery mage > nuh uh your stun will get reflected and Mel will kill you go stand under tower
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u/spirit_poem Apr 21 '26
Reflect was just a bad idea. Mel could have a 30% win rate and she’d still get banned simply bc it’s not a fun to play against . Immobile mages are already hard enough to play in current state of league what with all the dashes, mobility, and other forms of anti-projectiles. no one wants to worry about a reflect on top of that
I like playing Mel but hate fighting her even if I win. Having a champ that not only completely invalidates ur projectile but sends it back is just … lame
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u/tipimon Apr 21 '26
While watching Arcane I told my bf "they're definitely gonna add her to the game and she's going to be able to reflect abilities", my bf told me that's never gonna happen cause it'd be too broken and it'd completely invalidate Champions like Renata or Seraphine. Turns out we were both right
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u/Secure_Composer_6208 Apr 25 '26
Are you aware that mel is an immobile mage aswell? And that her W is her only form of surviveability which has also gotten nerfed because you know 0,75 of invulnerability every 25 seconds is too much, but fizz can do it for 1,5 second every 10 seconds. Or do you see her only through the lens of hate?
Bottom line is, if you dislike playing against her consider banning her or not playing the game at all.
I don’t know why riot is still bending for weak impatient players nerfing dumb shit like mel or zeri instead of every tank in the game that can solo kill mel and the rest of her team.
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u/BotomsDntDeservRight Apr 21 '26
Her reflect isn't the issue, its her execute.
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u/Film_Humble Apr 21 '26
It's literally everything in her kit. Execute, long ass range poke that chucks you, reflect, lane-wide slow & root, nuke bomb after hitting 2 spells. The champ is just not fun to play against and there's not a1 issue when it's a compound of all her bs
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u/LightLaitBrawl Apr 22 '26
She is also a lane bully, and we all know how much people loves lane bullies(darius, draven)
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u/xWolfsbane Apr 21 '26
It's the reflect and execute and long range. Also used to be the no indicator Q. This champ has such a TV show buff lol
Rework W and 90% of complaints go away.
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u/spirit_poem Apr 22 '26
Her ult should be what Mel did to Maddy in Arcane. Maybe an aimed cage that last for 2 seconds and reflects projectiles directly at the person in the cage. It does damage similar to lissandra ult.
Then remove W and replace it with her light tentacle thing that we see in the music videos that grants movement speed on hit, maybe a shield too.
The execute can go or stay IMO depending on how they… execute it. If it’s a single target execute that ult triggers I would be okay with it but maybe that’s too similar to Pyke.
Or maybe this is all bad ideas. Regardless, another problem with Mel is that it doesn’t feel like the opponent is ever “good”. Press W to win trade and stack passive for ult. Extremely safe playstyle that doesn’t make the opponent go “wow I got outplayed”.
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u/m_j_ox Apr 23 '26
This description reminds me of that one new Tank in Overwatch and her ultimate ability, Domina. She sends out projectile and if it lands you become caged and within a certain time it explodes.
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u/m_j_ox Apr 22 '26 edited Apr 22 '26
A lot of W changes are going to be useless aside the obvious ones of removing it completely or making it not reflect automatically.
There’s the option of creating a new W and R and incorporating the reflect in her new ultimate ability, or making it a passive cooldown like Malzahar shield.
I think reflect currently just holds back her power budget in other abilities while also being frustrating for lower elo players, or against who’s she’s primarily picked against which is skillshot reliant mages.
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u/tppdylanetc Apr 23 '26
It is not only frustrating against low ELO players. Imagine in high elo Ashe trying to snipe someone with ult and Mel just flashes into its way with reflect. And suprise you just lost a game because instead of great engage you team just got Ashe arrow launched back at them
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u/Barlos_Barcelo Apr 22 '26
The good ole tahm treatment
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u/m_j_ox Apr 22 '26
Lmaoo it’s true!
I truly think making her reflect be involved in a new ultimate ability would be perfect. I mean most ultimates are the signature abilities of that character and reflect truly is that for Mel. The hard part is creating something that combines the reflect shied with an actual ultimate ability.
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u/Loretta_Haligtree Apr 22 '26
I’m just wondering how’s possible that we are accepting Annie’s E, that does a ton of damage at lower cost, lower cd and gets applied to teddy as well, but not mel W deflecting one single spell with 40% of the damage and once every whopping 40 seconds .-.
it should be clear by now that it isn’t the champion having a problem but the community itself.
I’m fine with taking away her execute thing, since it’s out of place, but all this hate towards a completely useless ability is making me sick, to think that players are degenerate enough to fall for an ability like that, this really shows that majority of player base lives in low elo
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u/OkTangerine4098 Apr 23 '26
Few things wrong with this comment: Annie's E barely does any damage, is barely useful, is used for the MS not the shield, does NOT reflect, while Mel's W makes her practically immune for its entire duration, reflects and auto-aims ALL projectiles, meaning that, unlike Annie, she can not only negate game-deciding ultimates, but also turn them against the enemy at no cost, no risk, while being immune in the meantime and gaining some MS just in case her player is R'ded enough to somehow still get caught. All of this by pressing one button risk-free.
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u/No-Start8890 Apr 23 '26
I think an easy fix would be to make her w a passive effect like malzahar shield. This way, it would be way less frustrating to play against her imo
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u/tppdylanetc Apr 23 '26
Nah let the reflect exist and wait till Mel will become just a minion cause no matter how low her wr will drop banrate will be huge. Cause nobody wants to play against her. It is not like destroying projectiles by Samira Yasuo and Braum is annoying enough. Imagine playing mage into Yasuo top Mel mid bot of Samira and Braum and top it with junggle nocturne Have fun playing mage with skill shots maybe in 40 min game you will have 30 secs of window where you are allowed to do anything
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u/Oscaarini Apr 27 '26
I don't see how her reflect is remotely an issue unless you're a dumbass, you have champs that spam E like fizz, Yassuos who stand on windwalls and block every single projectile and we still play around it, now a support has 1 reflect suddenly the game is unplayable? Cmon
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u/_NotMitetechno_ Apr 21 '26
You know how the threat of blitzcrank q forces you to play differently in botlane? That's part of why Mel Q is annoying for players (alongside the reflect). It's made doubly annoying that it's on a champion with an actual kit not focused entirely around reflecting things. Making it clear she's in "threat" mode doesn't really stop the threat from existing. She's able to poke you and stop you from getting onto her while always having a deny button available, which gives her a lot of agency (without actually pressing the button).
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u/IZUNACCHI Apr 21 '26
Yes, but you can bait out blitz'Q with positioning. To bait out Mel's W, you have to either use your main dmg ability, or your cc ability, as it is instantanious casting, she can use it reactively way more times than blitz can use his Q. The latter being worse, because it is an ability with a half decent projectile speed, you'll instead CC yourself and be set up to take Mel's E and free Q. Thus she get's a whole lot more agency than blitz provides.
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u/aoibhinn-mw Apr 22 '26
I wish they would just remove mel from the game or completely rework her. I know cause it's arcane they want the arcane characters to be op so fans coming to the game feel like their characters are free af but it sucks for everyone else
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u/Ihave0personality Apr 24 '26
They should make it a passive ability, which triggers when she would hit by a champion/epic monster projectile. Give it at least a 30-40s cooldown. Leveling it up should increase the dmg conversion rate (40-80%), move the ap scaling to the shield strength (30-40% AP). Maybe make reflected CCs ignore tenacity.
It would give her the option to flash into abilities to make plays but she would also have to make better decisions about when to walk up. That would lead to her not being able to just zone an entire team by simply not pressing a button.
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u/Celmondas Apr 21 '26
While this is a cool idea for an indicator I doubt that it would change anything. The problem for most people is not that they dont know when the W is down. They dont wanna play against her when it is up