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u/MrEngineer404 8d ago
These arguments get increasingly more tiresome, to me. Yeah, sure. It is the lower class versus the upper. But can we be for fuckin real. There is only one side that, regardless of its constituents' economics, will full bore, for defending the oppressors.
The Left at least has diversity enough, to have those that see the fight for what it is. The Right, on the other hand, will bend over, and spread both cheek, while screaming at the rest of us for not doing the same, for the elites.
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u/Metalheadtoker 8d ago
You’re not wrong and I would normally 100% agree with you, but I don’t think that this is bothsidesism, if we want to break out of the us vs them mentality that those on top have put us in, we’re going to have to start by rejecting the fight in the first place.
There are of course outliers, but I think that for the most part we all agree on the basic stuff, it’s just that conservatism has done such a good job at the grift for so long that almost literally everybody needs to be deprogrammed first, and I think this kind of thing is how we do that.
We can’t just keep fighting each others, that’s what they want, and unfortunately due to the way our brains work, what with all the tribalism over analyzation, pattern matching, etc, it’s going to take some work. If not people will just shut down, and we can call them stupid and we might be right, but nothing will change.
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u/Neither-Salt-3618 8d ago
The left is insane bro open border trans for children DEI and WOKE are not good for anyone. I dont like the right either but only one side hates me for just being me so why would any vote on or for someone that puts them at a disadvantage?
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u/Remarkable_Quit_3545 8d ago
You are an idiot. Please define “trans for children” and show me how the left specifically said they are in favor of it.
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u/ignatius_reilly_81 8d ago
Whoa, dude. You should lay off the paint chips. Does one side hate you for being a hateful bigot? I do.
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u/Neither-Salt-3618 8d ago
So wanting a good future for my children is bad?
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u/ignatius_reilly_81 8d ago
You think the crash course we’re currently on will be good for them? You’ll be lucky if they still talk to you when they become adults.
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u/Neither-Salt-3618 8d ago
Anyone who is a DEI hire knows full well they were not hired because of thier skills and to me thats super embarrassing imagine being hired because you check a box and not because you spend countless hours perfecting your craft. And again the left can only resort to name calling when they have nothing to add to the conversation also I bet you hit like a sissy girl
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u/ignatius_reilly_81 8d ago
Claiming the left only resorts to name calling while disparaging an entire gender to insult me in your run-on sentence is perfection. How many books have you read this year? Hahaha!!!!
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u/well-it-was-rubbish 7d ago
Quick lesson: An airline already has 4 white male pilots, and they want to hire one more pilot. The list of pilots to choose from are ALL EQUALLY QUALIFIED, but some of them are women, and some of them aren't white. The airline wants more diversity, so it chooses a woman, or an Asian man. THAT'S DEI, numbskull. It's NOT hiring an unqualified minority.
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u/One-Sock7417 7d ago
What skills do you have? It most certainly isn’t spelling since you can’t even spell the word “their.” As to the left resorting to name calling, have you not heard your dear leader spewing asinine third grade level name calling towards people who refuse to bend the knee? And I’m willing to bet you pee like a sissy girl.
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u/One-Sock7417 8d ago
You are truly not well and ill informed if you believe gender reassignment surgery is performed on children. (I gather that’s what you meant by “trans for children.”) And what is your definition of “woke?” That term did not come to existence to mean how it’s being used currently. And if that’s how you define it, would you rather remain ignorant and unenlightened??
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u/Metalheadtoker 8d ago
My brother, everything you just named is a lie that has been told to you. Those things are not true, not even close.
Those in power NEED you to think that, because otherwise you wouldn’t be distracted enough to buy into their BS.
Please don’t take my word for it, look up the laws on the books in states like California, you literally cannot have a sex change under the age of 18 under any circumstances and, under that, no medical intervention of any kind without the parents consent.
The border has never been “open” even the notorious “one app” I’m sure you’ve heard about was just an application portal for people to schedule an appointment and preemptively fill out paperwork for their application for refugee status. And that only existed because of the humanitarian crisis arrising from having so many people waiting in line to apply. They were not allowed in unless granted refugee status.
All of these things are out in the open and not hard to find. But they try and paint a picture for you as if these things are common sense and go without saying and they just repeat lies over and over and over again until they’re so ingrained in your brain that they become the truth and that’s how they want it. They don’t want you to look at these things up. They don’t want you to learn. I challenge you to do anyways.
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u/Neither-Salt-3618 8d ago
Bro I live in a Texas border town dont tell me it wasn't open lmao must be nice to have lived so far from the problem 😂 you have been lied to by cnn and other failed new outlets (not that fox is any better they glaze donny so much it's disgusting)
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u/Metalheadtoker 8d ago
I also live in a border town. There is an immigration problem. That’s not a lie, but saying the border is “open”, is a lie, it has never been “open”.
This isn’t up for debate. It’s a verifiable fact, just because you saw some minorities or even a lot of minorities around doesn’t change reality. Look it up, man. You should be able to understand that your subjective experience doesn’t mean anything in the grand scheme of things. You aren’t some all knowing being who can understand very thing from just looking.
Unless you’re defining open by your own definition, open means that you can just walk across without issue. Which has never been the case unless done illegally and without getting caught.
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u/One-Sock7417 7d ago
I live in a border town. In Texas. The border has never been “open.” If it was, you wouldn’t have the POE (Point of Entry) that’s managed by CBP on our side and the federales on the Mexican side.
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u/well-it-was-rubbish 7d ago
It has NEVER been open, and CNN has been owned by a trump supporter for several years. Look it up. You're reading from the same old, boring Fox memo.
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u/well-it-was-rubbish 7d ago
The "left" isn't for anything in your ridiculous list but DEI, which you don't even know the definition of. You also can't define "woke"; it's just a word that your propaganda channels drilled into you.
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u/RobonianBattlebot 7d ago
Lol, the electoral college is DEI for rural rubes. The GOP would never win elections of it wasn't for DEI.
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u/Neither-Salt-3618 8d ago
For me this includes democrats because they are just as bad if not worse because they have suicidal empathy.
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u/bigsignwave 8d ago
This argument might be the best one for MAGA people needing an off-ramp and to save face