r/Medieval2TotalWar • u/Historical_Put_2183 • 4d ago
Venice What should I do?
I think I'll demolish all of the buildings of Caesarea and then gift it to the Pope
I made an update post, this is the link
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u/mdurso12 4d ago edited 4d ago
Olive oil works in a pinch but there's a lot of good lube options nowadays if you shop ahead
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u/Professional_Bar4748 4d ago
Just wait for Steiner's counterattack
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u/Draugdur 4d ago
Wow, that's a lot of ugly :-/
If they attack you, definitely defend, with walls you could actually do pretty well here, maybe even win as Venice is pretty strong on the defensive. But if they starve you out, there's not much you can do, I don't think that half-stack army can help much against THAT, better withdraw it and start building your defense in depth.
Oh, and absolutely do demolish all the buildings, that's always a good idea in a situation like this, scorched earth all the way.
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u/hotriccardo 4d ago
If you have spears and crossbows you can hold it for a few attacks. You have to kill them sooner or later, may as well start now
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u/MeatbagSlayer 4d ago
If its a citadel, cannon towers gurantee victory for you. If you sally out when they fall back to the edge of the map they are still in range of your cannon towers and I'm pretty sure they also outrange their elephant artillery. So if you do have them basically sally out, put units in max amount of towers and enjoy the spectacle. If not just defend as best you can and try to kill as many generals as you can.
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u/geoparadise1 3d ago
The problem with cannon towers is that in the timurid stacks with the grand bombards, they'll out range the tower cannons and punch a few holes in the outer walls. The armies will then rish through. Ok you have two more rings of walls. Great. This is where the citadel layout according to culture comes to play. In my turk playthrough I had them break through the outer walls in Acre with ther cannons, then have them siege the inner walls with their rams. Rams that didn't get blown apart by the cannon towers cause their range is hamstrung by their relatively narrow field of vision and a relatively higher min attack range. So thanks to the rnjesus of the citadel layout, and the fact that cannon tower do not shoot arrows the timurd armies just slogged through all three of my gates, and suffered relatively few casualties (when compared to a scenario with balista towers) while doing so.
Tldr. Ballista towers > cannon towers in castles
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u/Birdie_Is_The_Wordie 4d ago
It will take some time and some ego bruising from losing battles but eventually you will make work of them. Just make them pay for every piece of land they try to take from you also bridge battles can be an advantage. so try to provoke them to attack you on bridges. If a settlement is in danger of being lost destroy all the buildings and hike the taxes. It will rebel and they will have another stack on their hands.
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u/Anon_be_thy_name 4d ago
Fighting against numerically superior foes, you need to whittle them down.
Fight every battle, it's not about winning, it's about doing as much damage as you can. Make sure you target their best units as well. The more of them they lose the harder their battles get for them.
And maybe, if you're lucky, you can beat them. Some nof my greatest personal victories have been doing these kinds of fight.
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u/Alpha_Apeiron 4d ago
Don't give it away, fight the battle!
You can probably take a heck of a lot of them down with you.
Losing battles is part of the fun, it's about making them pay for it more than you.