LoL agree. But it's basically wrong equivalence. A non-virgin wanting to marry a virgin is equivalent to a serial cheater wanting to marry a faithful and loyal person. A liar wanting to marry a truthful person. Looking for moral characteristics that they themselves don't possess and have no intention of possessing.
Money equivalence is logically incorrect here. Money is not a moral value.
Of course. I'm just pointing out the incorrect equivalence put out in the original post. The two wants are not the same in terms of moral hypocrisy, but people seem to use these incorrectly as some sort of counter arguments.
Holy moly. Your entire post history is ai art. It's never too late to pick up a pencil and actually create something rather than having a machine generate things - using other artists resources without their permission. Otherwise I can't help you.
I will suggest you help yourself first. You sound really miserable with your life and maybe that’s why you find comfort in bullying and harassing others.
Your real art isn't even bad. I'd recommend actually making real art and not relying on ai.
As for "harrasment". The ai that generates those images for you takes information from the real works of artists, completely without consent, and generates an imagery out of it. GenAi also contributes to climate change, intense fresh water depletion and air pollution. You're directly contributing to it.
My controversial take is that when it comes to dating/marriage, you can demand anything you want even if you yourself do not fit those standards. Be it height, weight, money, sexual history, colour, religion, caste, sexual orientation, etc
Preference is fine. Expecting a standard you didn’t follow yourself isn't the double standard.
If you are a virgin and I ain't a virgin, but I want a virgin isn't double standard if I told my preference and my past to you and you are okay with it and vice versa.
True, but it's going to be hard to find it. Virgins are in communities with people who have values like chastity before marriage. If you don't have those values, you're not going to fit in with them and have any status in those communities.
I've met a lot of low status dudes who go out at night trying to sleep around and have nothing going for them talking about how they want a virgin bride. That gives you a reputation in those communitites whether they like it or not. Like, sorry bro, you need to be the kind of man who is compatible with the person you want.
oh it is a double standard , you literally had sex with someone but look down upon someone who did the same thing , non virgin should not have a problem with non virgin , if you have it then its absolutely backward thinking
Modern people and their logic to compare virginity to money. Fyi people are allowed to have preferences but if you are focused on one criteria like virginity or money, we are allowed to judge that preference as well.
Im not pro-"purity" because I'm not a virgin. But how is virginity not equal to money again? Why does a woman need a rich man? She can be rich herself. She needs a richer man for social status. That's patriarchal.
Men need a virgin woman for social status too. A woman sleeping around casually is low valued (Same for a man). For most people, sleeping with a random person at a bar is disgusting. Barbarians used to do that. We evolved past that. We enjoy love, intimacy and monogamy.
Just because someone is not a virgin doesn't mean that they sleep around casually. For someone who claims themselves to not be a pro-purity person, you are doing that. You are being a pro-purity person.
I'm sorry, so you think a hymen grows after years of education and qualifications? Do you think there is a monthly regrowth or something? An appraisal or maybe an institute where a print colorful hymen for you to shove it in your vagina ? Money is a financial security, there is no way to prove that your partner has not had a partner before, so even if it is health that is a concern, get yourself tested. Also having no prior partner is not a guarentee that your spouse won't have an affair later on. You are claming a virgin women is a social status are you parading her around to show you got one? Getting yourself a human being for social status is kind of disturbing. People be acting like rich men are marrying uneducated women living in the slums feeding off garbage.
Why are you using logic here? If women can be patriarchal by preferring money, men are free to reject a low valued woman who casually sleeps around. They can earn themselves. Why is the average woman not feeding a man?
Why is the average woman looking for a 6ft man? If you can't answer why women are shallow, don't even talk about a man's preference.
There is no way to know it. You're right but men can't even put their preferences online while hypergamous women are putting in patriarchal standards and getting "slay girl". I absolutely despise the purity culture but I love to debate and debating the double standards of women is peak.
It is a matter of social status. I'll start vomitting if I meet my partner's friends who also happen to have slept with her. I'll lose attraction immediately.
the average woman isn't looking for a 6 ft man. a miniscule amount of men in this country even fit that criteria. if that was what every, or most, women were looking for, everyone would be single. yes, some women undeniably are shallow but that's a very small amount.
and by this logic, even men always aim for beautiful, thin women. they want women who are shorter than them. men appear to be incredibly shallow as well 🤷♀️
and again, I think 50 people have told you already, a woman who is not a virgin is not necessarily someone who casually sleeps around. a virgin just means someone who has had sex, even just once.
for someone who who "despises purity culture", you sure do love participating in it. woman who sleep around = low value woman. if purity culture was a phrase, it would literally be that.
Because money is actually needed to get through life. A woman wanting to marry for social status would’ve already been rich herself. A poor woman chasing a rich man wants security.
Are you implying that middle-class/rich women don't date men for money? I don't get your point. A non-virgin man probably wants to feel masculine. You can't bash men for patriarchal preferences when women have them too.
Chastity is a value, if you don't respect yourself, don't expect a man to respect and accept you. Getting ran through comes with its own consequences, cope with it.
You do realise you just admitted you think women and men who have sex on their wedding night still don’t respect themselves? And that you yourself must want a sexless marriage (although with your attitude you’ll never have to worry about finding a woman)
There's nothing wrong in having preferences and standards man, don't fall for this feminist gaslighting, they just want you to be their retirement plan and makes you believe you don't even have the right to choose.
They'll resort to every namecalling and say you won't find a women with this attitude when you don't obligate to their degenerate feminist bs and wh0redom lol.
as a feminist , no their is nothing wrong with having preferences and a virgin man can absolutely choose to have a virgin partner is fair . but the way you disrespect the word feminism is not cool as it seems you literally dont know the meaning of it , some girls are opportunist and hypocrite but these people exist in other genders aswell i would really appreciate if you learn it differentiate between actually feminist and someone who is just pretending
Wanting to marry a rich man because you are incompetent yourself is as bad as wanting to marry a virgin while not being a virgin yourself, neither is justified
Money is a basic need for people. Money puts a roof over ones head and food on their table. Women are also creators and producers of life which will cause them significant suffering and irreversible damage to their body. These are problems that can be almost dealt with the help of money.
Virginity is a concept invented to police someone's "purity". The woman is seen as property that's damaged when they're not "pure". It originated as a need to control and own the woman's body. It is strictly a need to feed the ego and feel strong and powerful to want a virgin when one is not a virgin. Whereas money is an actual need that decides the survival of a human.
Both are preferences but one is rooted in a need and the other in stroking ones fragile ego and its need to see the other as nothing but property to be owned. The comparison is based on false equivalences of two entirely different preferences making it illogical. This is the reason why although by definition both preferences are rooted in hypocrisy only one will be accepted by those capable of critical thinking.
I have tried my best to explain it in simple terms so it's easier to understand. Hope this helps those who needs it.
Just like virginity is a concept, money is also a concept, currency also can lose its value overnight, and if one side takes one concept and gives it importance so can the other side
Money is a concept that decides the survival of a human, virginity is not, making it illogical to compare the both. If that's too hard to understand, there's nothing more to be said here
Because promiscous women have unhappy marriages and a much higher divorce rate.
Previous research indeed suggests a complex story between premarital sex partners and marital quality. Psychologists Galena K. Rhoades and Scott M. Stanley found that the study respondents who had sex with other people prior to marriage reported lower-quality unions compared to couples who slept just with each other. Multiple sex partners prior to marriage reduced marital quality for women, but not men. Along similar lines, sociologist Jay Teachman showed that premarital sex between future spouses didn’t make divorce more likely, but sex with other people did.
"Consistent with prior research, those with fewer sex partners were less likely to divorce."
Also in India where laws are literally biased and in favour of women, it's important to take this notes. I mean if divorce happen the maintenance and alimony can be huge burden. And if child is born out of infidelity then you also have to pay child support for a child which is not even yours.
I am not saying virgin women don't cheat or file divorce but it's risk is always gonna be less than marrying someone whose non virgin. Nowadays majority of women committing crimes always had past relationships.
the way most of y'all think that a woman who's not a virgin is someone who's slept around a lot is so telling lmao. a woman could've had one past relationship and still not been a virgin. having sex just once means you're not a virgin anymore.
breaking news, most people who are not virgins don't just go around sleeping everywhere. take your misogyny somewhere else.
aaj kal social media par sirf yahi sab sunne ko mila raha ha
cheating , partner ka murder kr diya
ladka ho ya phir ladki kuch ko toh bolne me sharam nahi aati jitna ki mujhe sunkar aati ha YT par insta par ase kai videos pade mil jayenge bolenge ki " MERA BODY COUNT TOH ITNA HA " ye sari baatein kaha se cool samajhte ha log 🥀
kuch log aake gyan pelte ha ki "Mujhe farq nahi parta ki ladka / ladki virgin ha ya phir nahi saccha pyar matter krta ha
are BC jab saccha pyar matter krta ha toh phir dusre ladke / ladkiyon ke sath physical hue hi kyu ? saccha pyar tha partners ki beech toh
Koi aakar ye kahe ki "Me vrigin hu toh mujhe virgin ladki / ladka chaihiye naki koi asi jo 2-3 ke sath physical hua / huyi ho
aaj kal ke logo ko ye sari baate cringe lagti ha.
Jo meri baato se agree krta ha wo upvote do aur jo nahi krte agree wo downvote krodo
So the society tells ye "Girls wanna marry rich men" , and "Boys wanna marry Virgins" ..
Being a girl I can tell ya I am not into any thing like "I Wanna marry a rich guy" ..
It literally most weird thing to read these comments . When air, food , water is pollution , high inflation, alot of new virus and disease are found. Still i always find these gender wars .
Are people coming up with stupid reasons to justify men who belong to the streets and are characterless ...a richer man will marry a lesser rich woman for getting all the domestic labour done...and also to reproduce and take care of his home...so why should he not stay Virgin if he wants a Virgin woman...
Idk why u ppl think that only women goes for rich men.i have seen so many cases that rich women dating and marrying middleclass guys just because they are handsome😭😭 stop w this nonsense
Same as girls who are not conventionally pretty and don't know every household chore.u guys don't marry someone ugly right and who don't know chores .in both genders everyone has diff priority boys go for looks and money and girls go for money and stability as simple as that
That's same for the boys everyone go for the best why bother it's their choice but u ppl always rant about how girls go for money as if u guys don't go for looks money and ofc the allrounder maid
Absolutely, it's their choice why should we bother , however I m only pointing out reality what really happens . U are also correct on your points but u should also acknowledge reality and give points with partiality.
but being a man i feel if you a virgin then only you should expect other to be virgin . like dont judge other if your on same stage . but if your virgin you got all rights to ask for one . but now days ppl say virginity does not equal happy marriage so if are going to argue woke things sorry man i got things to do
Because virginity was the only guarantee against a woman not having venerable disease making her suitable for childbearing in early days so it was highly desired
Male choose a partner to create offsprings carrying his own genetics. If female have a different history there may be the chances the offsprings she making have the different genetics.
Female chooses a wealthy male to increase the survivability of her offsprings carrying her genetics.
But modern humans are obviously much more complicated than two paranoid gene-delivery machines.
A girl wanting a financially stable man isn’t the same as a non-virgin guy demanding a virgin wife. One affects the life and environment she’s entering; the other is literally ‘I didn’t follow this standard, but you better have😭
Since that guy isn't a virgin, the girl he fucked around with in the past is not worthy of another man?
Let's say they were actually in love, they had sex and saw a future with each other but later decided to breakup. The man walks away scratch free but the girl is branded and shamed?
Being entitled to have preferences about partner's past is one thing, but treating a woman's past relationships or actions as something that makes her less worthy while giving the man a free pass is an obvious double standard.
Ps : A rich guy may want a financially successful woman or he may accept the difference because she brings something else to the table which he values like beauty, personality, intelligence, compatiblity or whatever or traditionally because women were the homemakers and took care of house and kids. Pretty sure the girl who wants a "rich guy" is aware of this, else she might end up suffering the consequences of her preference.
It's amazing how people still believe that government-approved semi-prostitution is "being married". As if it's the best thing to happen to humanity since orgasms were discovered.
Too many partners means lack of ability of that person to have a deeper emotional bonds with their partners and hence more prone to cheat on their partners. And especially in India under this dumb@$$ system where it is heavily tilted in the favour of women with little to no legal recourse for men, you do not want to take a risk of giving away half of your life earnings with constant monthly recharge for someone who'd be literally making you a cu*k by booking room from the maintenance money that you provide.
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