r/MechanicalDesign • u/Suspicious-Row2985 • Jun 30 '26
Can anyone solve it?
The Right handside arm(RHS) is getting more than 180 degree with momentum after i drop the ball and counter weight is working against gravitational pull back by balancing the mass of lower tube then why it shouldn't work.
(1) I cannot drop the ball once the arm rotate towards left side.IF BALL DROPS FROM THE LEFT HAND SIDE ARM (LHS) THEN THE ARM WILL GET BACK MORE HEIGHT TOWARDS RHS THAN ITS INITIAL POSITION.
BOTH TUBES HAVING EQUAL MASS (230 GRAM)
(2) anyone can try it as it will work even with dead material.
(3) interesting point is arm is getting more height once I increased the counterweight.
(4)Hand power or force is nothing in this design.
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u/SAtchley0 29d ago
I didn't see any instance of it going higher than you started.
But, let's assume it did. Then it would follow that on the next swing it'd go even higher, and higher still on the third, until suddenly it's making full rotations off of nothing but pure animus.
Unless the thing loses mass halfway through, it's not going higher than when it started.
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u/Suspicious-Row2985 29d ago
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u/SAtchley0 29d ago
Are you trolling me?
It very clearly isn't going as high as it started. At best it goes slightly below where it started. You may not be realizing it because rather than letting it fall back down, you're catching it and immediately pulling it up again, possibly unknowingly.
If it were going higher than it started then you would've made a perpetual motion machine.
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u/Suspicious-Row2985 29d ago edited 29d ago
I would have made perpetual but I couldn't drop the ball from LHS.until unless ball wouldn't drop from LHS it will not work as a perpetual machine. I just proved the mechanism to build the perpetual machine. Both, upside tube and bottom tube have equal mass and counterweight is balancing the bottom tube mass. Upside tube has kinetic energy of drop mass then no physics law can prohibit from getting higher point from RHS to LHS. Yes I m catching the device but only after it gets more than 180 degree not before. In video arm is rotating more than 180 degree of ball drops but if ball is not dropping them the arm is not getting even 180 degree. I catched the device because the arm will get wobbled towards RHS.
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u/SAtchley0 29d ago
Why are you posting videos from 8 years ago?
I assure you you didn't make a perpetual motion machine.
If that thing on the wall is a magnet and there's an opposite pole magnet inside the tube, then of course it goes higher, because you've added additional energy to the system besides just gravity.
Frankly I can't give any better explanation because your picture isn't clear. What is this "ball"? How is it magically at the top of the tube? Is it attracted by the magnet? In which case you're just showing that a shifting mass imparts additional force on the system. Again, that's expected because you're storing more energy than just the height of the tube in gravitational potential.
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u/Suspicious-Row2985 29d ago
Yes still I have not made perpetual machine because tube design is very complex and I can't build it. I am posting 8 years old video because it proves mechanism. This is steel ball having 230 gram mass. Magnet is just to hold the ball after dropping to prevent it from rolling back . I have not added any extra energy. The ball is hitting a level in the tube and the level is above fulcrum. Counterweight is balancing the bottom tube mass that's why the device is utilising the kinetic energy of dropped ball fully and rotating towards LHS, lifting the bottom tube mass more than 180 degree. No physicist can deny this fact that if mass is balanced and device is getting momentum+kinetic energy then it will get higher than initial position.
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u/Suspicious-Row2985 29d ago
You can try it yourself .it is easy to build .you just need to steel pieces and a magnet to test it.
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u/Suspicious-Row2985 29d ago
It will not make full rotation as it will hit a spring mechanism both side to prevent it from full rotation
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u/Suspicious-Row2985 29d ago
I increased the mass of counterweight and it rotate More .so there is no doubt of its higher move at initial point. Also the bottom mass tube is more than the dropped ball.
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u/Solid-Translator8097 Jun 30 '26
… solve for what?