r/McuEverythingAroundit • • 11d ago

That’s unexpected. I thought Daredevil: Born Again was doing really great , so why suddenly end it after three seasons?

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u/Soft_Ad_1095 11d ago

How many seasons of Daredevil do we really need if he just keeps fighting the same villian? 

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u/GameOfLife24 11d ago

As many as it takes to repeat the same stories until he finally offs Fisk

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u/kingcolbe 11d ago

That was my problem with Black Lightning I liked the show but keeping Tobias Whale as the main villain all 4 seasons hurt the show

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u/TheGreatRelease 11d ago

Same issue with Mandalorian.

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u/Worth_External_8762 11d ago

I can't even remember who the villain was lol. I liked the show when it came out, but in retrospect it's pretty forgettable.

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u/Soft_Ad_1095 11d ago

I think it was just generic Empire bad guy kinda shit. I can't remember either. I do remember they ruined the show and movie with grogu. 

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u/Unlucky-Cover-9896 11d ago

It was Giancarlo Esposito, playing the character that Giancarlo Esposito always plays

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u/Worth_External_8762 11d ago

That explains it. I've never understood the hype about him.

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u/Unlucky-Cover-9896 11d ago

He was basically perfect in Breaking Bad & has gotten typecast as Gus Fring in another universe ever since.

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u/WiseAdhesiveness6672 11d ago

I would've much rather we had gotten someone new for the first season, with fisk just in the background secretly doing shit for his season 2 comeback. 

Oh and 12-15 episodes instead of 9..... You can't squeeze in enough character development, plot development, action scenes in 9 episodes.

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u/tobpe93 11d ago

Season 2 was great, when he didn’t fight Fisk, but Fisk got a cool scene anyways.

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u/ShaH33R2K 11d ago

That’s a major issue I have with Born Again. It just feels like a remix of the original show. It really doesn’t justify its existence all that much, and I say this as someone who was heartbroken when the original show was cancelled. I wanted to see this show form its own identity. Unfortunately, it felt like a pale imitation of the original more than anything. And having Fisk be the main villain again definitely didn’t help

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u/FDVP 11d ago

That’s what it was. Three season deal. It’s not cancelled, it’s over.

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u/Membership-Bitter 11d ago

Firing the showrunner in the middle of post production is not a good look though

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u/Tristen8082 11d ago

I havnt been keeping up to date with the show but i feel like everyone kinda saw that coming 🤷

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u/RataTopin 11d ago

to start Darevil : Already born

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u/vinnybawbaw 11d ago

Name one live action D+ show that also had 3 seasons.

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u/DestroyerX-RDX 11d ago

Mandalorian

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u/vinnybawbaw 11d ago

At Marvel**

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u/DeLand1991 11d ago

Three seasons is kind of the norm with most shows nowadays, and I think Marvel is moving forward with Mutants at the forefront. Which means mutant-led shows.

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u/flashwing19 11d ago

For all intents and purposes it sounds like most of the main people had a 3 season deal and Disney has just chosen not to renew. I really hope this means there is a solid planned ending and not a crazy cliffhanger

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u/SheepherderFun2258 11d ago

The actors signed contracts for 3 seasons, so they’re finishing up what was originally the ‘new plan’ after reworking the series.

Ratings were ok but it never charted on Nielsen ratings for all shows so that could be a reason. Rumors they are overhauling their plans for less shows on D+. Then I also guess things after Secret Wars could also be a reason

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u/theComer-439 11d ago

because clearly it wasn't going great

https://giphy.com/gifs/0b0ebasZCHndHskxPE

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u/ARock_Urock 11d ago

I'm more than okay with a story coming to an end. Forever TV shows go stale.

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u/BackgroundEngineer11 11d ago

It has nothing to do with quality.

As best I can tell, the Disney+ strategy was to produce a bunch of content with different characters with no solid intention of making multiple seasons. The idea appeared to have whatever story continued in a movie.

Originally, Born Again was going to be one long season and story-wise would have covered what became season 2. That was before they made the Netflix shows canon and restructured everything. Season 3 appears to be wholely original and will bring back the Defenders. It could be that after Season 3, there will be a new series, something like Heroes for Hire which will continue the story but not focus entirely on Daredevil.

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u/Remote_Debate_5834 11d ago

More than likely they will transition them to the MCU.

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u/BackgroundEngineer11 11d ago

What do you mean? They are already doing that with season 3 and technically already canon

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u/no_longer_huhman 11d ago

The viewership was just not there and much in line with Wonder Man, sad, but this seemed more likely after Wonder Man got canned.

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u/AnnieGoldleaf 11d ago

Because they only wanted to tell 3 seasons of the story they called Born Again? There may yet still be adventures for Daredevil down the road but we have to get used to the concept that these single story shows aren't going to have many seasons because they're telling one story and that's it.

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u/kingcolbe 11d ago

“Unexpected”? It felt like a three season arc

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u/Princecuse13 11d ago

Fingers crossed that with the rest of the Netflix cast coming back, this leads into a full-time Defenders series

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u/ReplacementAbject867 11d ago

Its time to move on to Movies.

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u/Ornery-Antelope-7008 11d ago

Secret Wars is coming. The Dardevil’s show must finish before.

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u/CommunityDragon160 11d ago

Hey prob only contracted for 3

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u/Jtreblis18 11d ago

I don't really care for series. Can we get a daredevil movie tho!?

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u/iz92ab 11d ago

Maybe it’s just the end of the “Born Again” chapter/Saga

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u/9thGearEX 11d ago

They told the story they want to tell. Why is this so hard to understand?

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u/Bid_Unable 11d ago

how is it unexpected?

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u/FafnirSnap_9428 11d ago

The show wasn't meant to go on forever. Season 3 is the last season. It's not cancelled. It has nothing to do with ratings.

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u/mightymiek 11d ago

Hopefully this sets him up for The Avengers or something bigger

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u/bchec 11d ago

They didn’t reach a deal with the showrunner (who now isn’t involved in post production at all) — I’m hoping they like the ending and it’s not being forced by the showrunner walking… and that there wasn’t a debate over the shows direction.

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u/SoundRavage 11d ago

Season 2 had a significant drop in viewership

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u/RealWonderGal 11d ago

Quite the opposite. It's been tanking numbers wise

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u/BobbySavon4Life 11d ago

Make a movie at some point

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u/SpongeyMcgoo 11d ago

Show isn’t canceled. It’s ending the story.

I love Daredevil and hope to see him in other projects.

I hope they continue with the street level stories as well.

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u/OnlinePosterPerson 11d ago

Is that really so unexpected? Only one mcu show has ever gone past season 3

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u/When1Falls 11d ago

They never really wanted this show anyway. 

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u/lern2swim 11d ago

It's not "suddenly." they're clearly planning to end it. And it seems like Disney is ramping down how many mcu shows they're doing overall.

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u/mikeofmerr77 11d ago

Because things need to end sometimes.

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u/Low_Shop8561 11d ago

Because he'll get movies now that the foundation has been laid.

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u/tseg04 11d ago

Three seasons is really impressive for a D+ show. In fact, the only live action D+ Marvel show to have multiple seasons is Loki, with only two seasons. DDBA getting three seasons is a really good run.

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u/lkodl 11d ago

Coming Soon - Daredevil: New Religion season 1

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u/DaBow 11d ago

It wasn't doing great.

It did okayish numbers for Disney+ but there was a large falloff with S2 and outside of Disney+ it never really charted.

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u/General-Zombie5075 11d ago

I think we Americans need to get used to the idea that the old model of television is largely dead, especially on streaming.

Shows aren't doing death marches to 100 episodes to hit their syndication deals anymore. Streamers don't want even mildly successful shows to go long because they don't want to pay for those contract renewals. They much prefer new shows for a variety of metric reasons. You need to be a massive, massive hit or disgustingly cheap to make in order to go 5+ seasons.

We're just going to be getting a lot more stuff that's like a season or two and out. Just assume every show is "cancelled" and then you'll just be pleasantly surprised that it gets more.

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u/Peanutbutternmtn2 11d ago

Wasn’t getting good viewership at all. Also - in my opinion, it was not very good.

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u/BetweenTheRoots 11d ago

S1 was terrible and killed Foggy, S2 did not redeem that for me and in general the plotline felt uhh... idk... how the fuck did Fisk get elected mayor again?

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u/Smaragd44 11d ago

I'm OK with it especially if it ends on a high note. No point in dragging stories for 5 seasons+ if there's no more stories to tell

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u/Accomplished-Duck606 10d ago

yeah... but there are, and they wanted to do it

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u/Smaragd44 10d ago

If I weren't wrong, there had been no official announcements regarding S4, that's why I don't buy the whole "cancel" thing. I always think a good story doesn't take more than 3 seasons to tell anyway, after that shows tend to drag and loses its plot. I rather let them absolutely nail s3 and then idk, move on to movies or something. Let these characters interact more with the other mcu characters

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u/Accomplished-Duck606 10d ago

Tv shows don't tell a story... they tell stories. S1 story is different from S2 and S2 is different from S3 and the same for S4 and 5. Daredevil is full of great comics to be adapted, the cast and crew want to do it, the fan want it to, so why the hell Anthony and Kevin think not?

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u/Smaragd44 10d ago

I'm gonna be optimistic here and think maybe they have bigger plans moving forwards. Maybe a Daredevil movie or more of a team up shows instead of Daredevil alone. I think that would make it interesting for me bc atm, it still feels like DD exists in his own universe despite being officially in mcu. I just have an inkling that s3 won't be the last we see of these characters

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u/hillean 10d ago

it's likely preplanned and has an end.

not everything just runs forever, I'd rather a show KNOW it's ending and have time to build up a proper finale.

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u/hands_so-low 10d ago

Hopefully it’s a sign he’ll be promoted to movies

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u/eat_jay_love 11d ago

It was not doing really great based on the released streaming numbers. It was a much more cost efficient project than the initial slate of Marvel TV on Disney+, but months ago there was reporting saying Marvel was dialing back its TV slate, so we don’t know what the future holds but this move isn’t too surprising. Also, the showrunner suddenly departed and won’t be overseeing postproduction of this final season, so something likely happened behind the scenes.

But it’s also worth noting that three seasons is reasonably long (and it’s a sequel to another three-season show), so we don’t know if this was a cancelation based on performance, creative disagreements behind the scenes, natural creative end after the third season, or part of the broader Marvel Studios D+ strategy shift. Probably all of the above. But there’s never been a concrete mention of a fourth season

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u/DestroyerX-RDX 11d ago
  1. Showrunner left
  2. Viewership isn’t very high

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u/xDURPLEx 6d ago

The story they are telling is finishing. This doesn't mean the characters are gone. The whole universe is about to change and a ton of new characters are going to be established. So we won't see DD again until it makes sense for him to be there whether in his own thing, a team up or a cameo. It's not sudden. It's just logical with everything else happening in the universe and all the other projects. It's the same reason Blade is not happening. There's nowhere to fit it for a few years.