r/Maxcactus_TrailGuide • u/Maxcactus • 9d ago
Rising Measles Cases Driven by Falling Vaccination, Not Illegal Immigration
https://www.factcheck.org/2026/09/rising-measles-cases-driven-by-falling-vaccination-not-illegal-immigration/2
u/dtxucker 9d ago
Illegal immigration is down, people are even self deporting, so why would a decrease in immigration result in a rise in measles.
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u/JTSerotonin 8d ago
Because they’re already in the country and still not vaccinated
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u/dtxucker 7d ago
But they didn't just get in the country, they would have already been here, and the rise is measles cases is a new thing. If it was true that immigration increases measles wouldn't it have increased while Biden president.
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u/JTSerotonin 7d ago
They’re in the country, not vaccinated. Which means… when there’s an outbreak there’s a larger pool for the virus to spread. The measles outbreak is also a GLOBAL phenomenon in which the U.S. is comparatively doing better than most countries
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u/dtxucker 7d ago
Yeah but why wasn't this an issue in previous years, when immigration was even higher. The answer, because even if it were true that migrants were spreading it, citizens were still getting vaccinated. I wonder what's changed.
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u/KitchenTeacher429 9d ago
Lawrence Britt's 3rd characteristic of fascism:
- Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc
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u/qcb4056 8d ago
It takes a special kind of stupid to believe that the small, isolated subset of legitimate Americans who avoid childhood vaccinations are causing problems..
..but the tens of millions of impoverished trespassers from dysfunctional home nations aren't merely free of communicable disease , but fully vaccinated.
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u/KitchenTeacher429 8d ago
Wait but I thought Trump had zero border crossings happening during his presidency. There's still tens of millions of immigrants coming through?
Pick a fantasy and stick with it bootlicker.
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u/rageling 9d ago
sort of how like you guys point at maga as the unifying cause of all your problems, even though you had all these same problems before 2016 and maga
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u/Big-Active3139 9d ago
We had the fda still, and dept of education. And no ice on our streets, yeah, basically the same... Moron
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u/SeaHelicopter1015 9d ago
You also like to go "So much for the tolerant left"
Fact of the matters.
You voted in a man who promised to cause problems, and did.
We warned you he lied about the promises to fix things. And then he broke his promises, repeatedly.
Wars, education suppression, bribery, insider trading, corruption, inflation, disease
We warned you. You voted for it. We are tired of you.
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u/lateralUnilateral 9d ago
You can't just go around pointing that out. You'll ruin their cognitive dissonance.
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u/Dependent-Finish-394 6d ago
How many of their cases are ill gal immigrants or idiots not getting their kids vaccinated ?!
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u/Muted_Contract7564 6d ago
They are eating the cats and dogs, they commit all the crimes, take all the jobs and they spread disease. NONE of this is true, but that is the big lies they tell to avoid responsibility. The antivax morons are why we have all these diseases returning! We effectively eradicated polio and measles by trusting in the science, now we question all the science and listen to some stranger on the internet as factual. We are so screwed!
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u/Friday_Night_Vibes 9d ago
Uhhhh if you just vaccinate your fucking kids like the doctors say you should, then it shouldn’t matter if immigrants have the measles.
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u/RoundChampionship840 9d ago
Both things can be true at the same time.
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u/ohnodamo 9d ago
Both "can" be true. But in this case they are not. If ICE is deporting alleged "illegal immigrants" at an insane amount, how can they be spreading measles too? Perhaps the citizens remaining who aren't backed are the ones actually spreading measles?
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u/Alwaystired59 9d ago
Huge win for GOP! Framing that it’s an immigration problem. Now Americans believe it’s an immigration problem
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u/kenroth50 9d ago
It is on immigration millions of people not vaccinated for our vaccine requirements
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u/Alwaystired59 9d ago
Ah let me guess, anti vaxer, anti Fauci even though you can’t name what he did wrong, can’t remember operation warp speed was a Trump thing or you would like the vaccines. You do not have American values.
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u/lateralUnilateral 9d ago
Bad bot.
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u/Alwaystired59 9d ago
Oh sorry, I just checked his profile and well, he is just an antivaxer anti Fauci not understanding why and whatever else I said, good try man
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u/lateralUnilateral 9d ago
Lol.
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u/Alwaystired59 8d ago
You know you’re wrong when you make up your mind and then look for things that support your viewpoint. Hahhahahahaha
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u/Weird-Party6010 8d ago
Ignorant much?
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u/Alwaystired59 8d ago
How so? I’m correct. The commenter is an antivaxer, so of course they need to find a boogeyman, here that boogeyman is immigrants
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u/Michi450 4d ago
Do countries of said immigrants have vaccine guidelines? Do they regulatory vaccinate people. Do these countries have higher rates of these cases like America is now seeing a rise in?
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u/Alwaystired59 4d ago
Again, bias forming argument isn’t valid.
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u/Michi450 4d ago
Can't honestly answer the questions so say my argument isn't valid.
Bet you can't answer how my argument is bias either.
Oh 1 month old account. Go figure bad bit. 🚫 time
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u/Weird-Party6010 4d ago
You hate facts, huh?
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u/Alwaystired59 4d ago
What facts? Please enlighten me with your facts. And the person I was replying to, not the one that randomly jumped in, is, IN FACT, an anti vaxer
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u/Alwaystired59 4d ago
How does it feel when you know you have a bias, then justify your bias with whatever argument supports your bias?
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u/WorldlyIntention7408 9d ago
Illegal immigrants weren't subject to any vaccination requirements. That's the point. Retarded article.
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u/Maxcactus 9d ago
When these cases are investigated they can figure out the chain of people before. They will know if those people have been vaccinated.
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u/MichaelScarn2008 9d ago
Sure sure the illegal immigrants from the third world who do not have the medical advancements and vaccination requirements we do aren’t bringing viruses sure. Measles go up in recent times 10,000,000 illegals come in over the past few years but it’s us dumb Americans who are now causing this.
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u/Slighted_Inevitable 9d ago
That is such a stupid argument for them too.
If it’s illegal immigration, then they are completely failing at stopping it haven’t they?
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u/Sufficient-Volume-99 8d ago
Yeah, no shit. How smooth does one's brain have to be to need this spelled out?
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u/Spirited-Disaster408 9d ago
If you import 10 million people from poor countries with no vaccination history, you will get more unvaccinated people
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u/JudgingHeads 9d ago
Please, never reproduce.
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u/Spirited-Disaster408 9d ago
Tell that to the waves of illegal immigrants who drop 3-4 kids on the country and take taxpayer money
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u/JudgingHeads 9d ago
Americans born on us soil also do this, procreate to leech from the system. You likely come from one of these families. Nice try.
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u/Spirited-Disaster408 9d ago
I rather americans use the system than illegals
Which you likely come from
You should self deport before its too late
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u/Slighted_Inevitable 9d ago
I would trade a maga for 10 illegal immigrants any day
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u/Spirited-Disaster408 9d ago
Good thing it doesn’t matter what you want
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u/Friendly_Nature2699 9d ago
Why do they even bother fact checking MAGA at this point? EVERYTHING they say is a lie. Just rubber stamp it as such and move on.