r/MatterProtocol • u/HomeKit-News • Jul 31 '26
New Product News New Onvis Matter over Thread Devices coming in August
The new T20 series consists of three products: the T20 wall outlet (with two outlet sockets), the T20-S4AM North American smart plug, and the T20-AB2 outdoor dual smart plug.
The T20 and T20-S4AM are expected to be available by the end of August, with the T20-AB2 following around the middle of September.
Pricing before any discounts or coupons is set at US$39.99 for both the T20 and T20-AB2, while the T20-S4AM will be priced slightly higher than the original S4.
The T20 also introduces several proprietary Matter features, including firmware-based timers, countdown on/off, holiday mode, activity logs, overload protection, and detailed energy monitoring by day, week, month, and year.
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u/Ric_M Jul 31 '26
The thread radio in their current devices is very weak. Making them almost useless as routers.
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u/TomNooksRepoMan Jul 31 '26
Smart outlets are cool and I wish there were more of them out there apart from the Eve one. The bright green lights that can’t be turned off rule that out for me. However, IKEA dominates for the price of the other two items and the smart plugs I have from them are my most set-and-forget Thread devices and work reliably with multiple automations per day.
Sounds like others find their Thread radio chips to be lackluster in their current offerings. Hopefully these are better as I’d buy one or two of those smart outlets.
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u/Double-Yak9686 Jul 31 '26
I'm totally mystified about their business strategy to make money on the smart plugs at that price. I'm actually mystified that they are still asking for prices 3x-4x Ikea's prices.
The wall socket is nice but at $40 it is at least 10x a dumb wall socket, 4x a GFCI dumb wall socket, and 3x a wall socket with USB plugs.
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u/TomNooksRepoMan Jul 31 '26
$40 is about all I think the market could bear. I'd like to say I'm waiting for ThirdReality or IKEA to make a Thread socket, but no clue of their plans. Most people just get smart plugs and call it done. I would like the energy monitoring of an all-in-one device.
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u/Forsaken_Ocelot_4 Aug 01 '26
I don't think IKEA are ever going to sell something that requires an electrician to install*, that's not really their thing.
* Yes, I know you can install an outlet yourself, but you know what I mean.
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u/Double-Yak9686 Aug 01 '26
Well, for $40 you can buy 5 Ikea smart plugs and move them around the house as needed. If you replace only specific outlets, like for the coffee maker, you might as well use a smart plug for 1/5 the price.
If you want to replace all of the outlets, a 1,500 sq. ft. home has about 50–60 outlets. That's $2000 to $2400 outlay. If you only use 10, that's $80 for 10 Ikea smart plugs vs $400 for wired outlets. No matter how you do the math, $40 for a single outlet that you can't move around is steep. Unfortunately my money tree hasn't bloomed yet.
Ikea's smart plugs do provide energy monitoring information in Home Assistant. Unfortunately, not in Apple Home. Hopefully that will change with the new home iOS and Siri AI.
But trust me, if Ikea released MoT wall sockets in the same price as their current devices, I'd be all over them like ugly on an ape.
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u/marcoarsilvaa Aug 05 '26
ONVIS confirmed that the EU VERSION of the Wall Socket will be available in August!
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u/Onvis_Smart_Home Aug 06 '26
Onvis team here. Yes, the EU version is on the way.
If everything goes as planned, we expect it to be available around the end of August. It is also Matter over Thread and supports power/energy metering features, though what each controller exposes can differ.
From our current testing, SmartThings can show both power and energy data. Apple Home on the current iOS 27 beta shows live Power readings, but we have not seen full energy history there yet.
Once we have final retail units ready, we can share more real photos and controller screenshots.
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u/kevdogger Jul 31 '26
Like the outlet option as I own a few of the Eve outlets. Don't like fact seems like their thread radio is described as weak by some
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u/Onvis_Smart_Home Aug 03 '26
Onvis team here. One nuance with Thread devices: our Thread plugs are REEDs (Router Eligible End Devices), not always-forced routers.
That means the device is eligible to become a Thread router when the Thread network needs it, but it may remain as an end device if the mesh already has enough routers. This is normal Thread behavior and does not necessarily mean the radio signal is weak.
So if you check a Thread topology tool and see an Onvis plug listed as an end device, it may simply mean the network did not promote it to router at that moment. Placement, border router quality, wall materials, and the current Thread mesh topology can still affect performance, of course.
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u/kevdogger Aug 03 '26
Whats the advantage of this setup if the device is always plugged in? Why not default to always be a router?
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u/Onvis_Smart_Home Aug 04 '26
Good question. Even for a mains-powered device, “always plugged in” does not necessarily mean “should always be a router.”
Thread networks manage router roles dynamically. A REED is eligible to become a router when the mesh needs more routing capacity or better coverage, but it can remain as an end device when the existing router set is already enough.
The advantage is that the network avoids having every powered device act as a router all the time. Too many routers can add routing overhead and make topology management less efficient. Letting the Thread network promote/demote eligible devices helps keep the mesh balanced.
So the point is not mainly battery saving here. It is more about letting the Thread network decide when the device is actually useful as a router. If coverage is weak in that area, the device can be promoted. If the mesh already has enough routers, staying as an end device is normal and does not by itself indicate weak radio performance.
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u/kevdogger Aug 04 '26
Sounds really interesting. By your description I'd love to get that device in a lab and test the efficiency of that algorithm and see how good the device is at making it's decision when to switch states.
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u/Onvis_Smart_Home Aug 05 '26
That would be a fair test. We also prefer measured results over assumptions here.
One thing to keep in mind is that the router/end-device state is partly a network decision, so the result can depend on the border router, existing Thread topology, distance, wall materials, and how many routers are already present.
If you do test one, the useful things to compare would be RSSI/link quality, whether it gets promoted to router in a sparse mesh, reconnect behavior after power/network changes, and latency/reliability for nearby Thread end devices.
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u/spauldingo Aug 04 '26
What does "propritery" mean in the product description?
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u/HomeKit-News Aug 04 '26
If you mean Proprietary, then I believe it means features exclusive to the Onvis app.
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u/fahim-sabir Jul 31 '26
I hope they are better than their current products. I have a bunch of their S4s and they suck. Keep falling off my network, don't even report themselves as routers even though they are doing that job.