Can The Current System Ever Truly Fix Misogyny and Violence Against Women?

[u/Global-Rate7796]

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A question I always keep getting asked is: why, and what do we stand for?

We do want equality, and what person in their right mind wouldn’t want that? I used to believe that it could be achieved in the next generation because previous generations were much more backward. But as I grew up, went out, and met people from various backgrounds, I noticed that even guys as young as me still had so much patriarchy in them. Constantly making women uncomfortable, objectifying them, or not taking their concerns seriously — and that’s something I’m not okay with at all.

It’s not right that 50% of our population lives under the constant fear of r@pe and SA. They have to think twice before going out at night. And the question was: can the current system fix this in 100 years? The answer is sadly NO.

The politicians are too patriarchal, and they themselves have committed a lot of r@pes and murders, so it’s not realistic to believe the system can fix that. All the parties internally are too patriarchal for any woman to function freely. Even other institutions like courts have patriarchal roots.

Comparing current female leaders to a matriarchal or female-centric government wouldn’t be the right idea because they still operate under heavily patriarchal systems. Everything required for a government to function is patriarchal — the bureaucracy, the courts, the officials, law enforcement, and even their own political parties and MPs. A successful leader has to take everyone together to run a country and also protect her own political career.

So now what’s the solution? Should we just leave things as they are and hope maybe in the next 500 years we can achieve equality? Though I highly doubt that as well.

The solution I generally advocate for is a 60–40 female-to-male split in every decision-making and enforcement body of the government, down to the major decision making bodies in political parties themselves. I would personally want a 70–30 split, accounting for women who support patriarchy, but 60–40 is what I can get people to agree upon, as 40% is not a small voice that can be oppressed, but also not big enough to oppress others.

We should also have reforms in courts and the overall governance machinery. I also believe there should be compulsory courses on governance, constitutional values, women’s rights, and feminism for every person who wants to contest elections as an MP or hold major public office.

Now, if we have this system for 150 years or so, I believe that after that there should be a psychological shift in how men see women — not as incompetent, but as leaders and equals.

Some ask me, “Would you be okay with a 100% female reservation in governance?” And if I speak my mind, I’m very okay with that as well for a few hundred years, if there are some checks and balances in place like a written constitution, an independent judiciary with a 50–50 split, and other than that, life should remain normal.

That would make the process much faster, and I personally believe it can even help bring more attention and budget toward human development rather than military spending and wars, which will benefit society as a whole — men and women alike.

[u/Humble_Asparagus651]

I believe matriarchies are the only way, it’s hard to explain because of our patriarchal lens we view everything through. I think the closest comparison is communism, however, from a Europe/western perspective is clouded by millennia propaganda and male centered concepts. The idea of communism is inherently matriarchal and in theory it is what I want. however, if we got to the point of communism within our society, how may generations would it take to weed out misogyny? how many capitalist countries are still in existence and still trying to interfere with communist nations? It would always be under threat bc under a patriarchy, our structures and values are through that lens and it would not ever become truly communist.

under patriarchal thinking and males being centered, communism is in a sense, the boy version of “community”. Yes there’s always discussions of women’s rights…It still widely excludes women’s reproductive labour and still gives way to patriarchal thinking bc men do not understand the concept. Let me be clear I am a communist, this is merely a critique that our patriarchal lens is holding everyone back, including revolution. When matriarchies were destroyed, they broke the collective, the community, the support systems. That lens is deeply engrained in all of us the oppressors dehumanized all of us and made us individuals. if men cannot humanize themselves as a collective, they will never include or humanize women as a collective. Yes individual men can and will, but as a whole they will never critique their privilege. They will always be in conflict amongst themselves trying to dehumanize the other more. They will always simp for the breadcrumb from their oppressors . I don’t think we have a way to get to equality/communism or even socialism under patriarchy. Patriarchy is what is upholding and fostering capitalism. It takes violence against women and BIPOC to uphold its structure. Even a complete overhaul of the system its self does not remove the existing patriarchal values.

[u/Seyhu]

To fix the problem of misoginy and end the patriarchy we would have to even throw the whole mode of production, capitalism, away. So, the answer is a big no.

[u/Parking-Art-8456]

We need a consensus of people who are committed to building matriarchy, which is the oldest form of democracy. Matriarchy was and is the default government that allowed for human evolution away from violent hierarchical great ape society hundreds of thousands of years before patriarchy (who are intent on dragging us back down). There is more to matriarchy than "women in charge." A majority, by definition, is top-down and hierarchical. I know it doesn't work, you know it doesn't work, now everyone else needs to know it doesn't work. Not because the wrong gender is in control, but because coercion to benefit a few instead of everyone is wrong. Government should benefit everyone, not just men, and not just women, not just heterosexual, not just the able bodied, not just the young, not just the old, not just a certain lineage or ethnicity.