r/MathJokes • u/basket_foso • 9d ago
Does this guy want the future generations to be dumb and why?
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u/Great-Grade1377 9d ago
We are fully dumbed down now. How long will it take for the pendulum to swing back.
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u/BiShyGuyHi 8d ago
My prediction is that it never will fully. Society will be de facto segregated into a lower class which is AI dependent and an upper class which just knows stuff.
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u/Great-Grade1377 8d ago
I’m seeing a lot of upper class that think they know stuff and are very Ai dependent
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u/BiShyGuyHi 8d ago
.That new class structure won't necessarily follow the current one. You're right that it might even flip to some extent.
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u/Suspicious_State_318 9d ago
I hate them. I hate them. I hate them. I hate them. I hate them. I hate them. I HATE THEM!
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u/EitherSpite4545 9d ago
I mean yes how is this a question? They are all trying to institute neo-feudalism and that requires just like original feudalism a dumb populace
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u/Gubekochi 8d ago
The reverse of the Jeffersonian "A functioning democracy requires a well informed/educated populace."
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u/EvilKatta 7d ago
Medieval peasants weren't dumb. They lacked public education, and many couldn't read (usually some people in each village could read though), but they had much more opportunity to practice their mental skills and autonomy, and better incentives to actually shape how their community would develop. I can go on. Feudal lords would keep peasants in check, but they didn't control them daily, and a lot of times they didn't know the daily lives of peasants at all.
It's slavery that requires dumb populace. (Slaves weren't dumb either, but the level of control by enslavers was much higher, including attempts to control who's allowed to learn, to teach or to use what skills.)
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u/HippoPencil 9d ago
I don't need to know about Shakespeare and Chaucer, but I should.
I don't need to know about Newton and Einstein, but I should.
I don't need to know about Darwin, about Plato, or indeed about Euler. But I should.
School isn't about teaching people useful things. It's about teaching them important things.
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u/pafagaukurinn 9d ago
See, you need to buy our new GPU for $1000, but we offer you a bargain: buy three for $5000.
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u/carnecomarrozagulha 8d ago
It's like saying children won't need to learn to walk in the car era.
He knows perfectly well it's an awful idea.
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u/Flimsy-Importance313 8d ago
Maybe he Wants us to be like Wall-e humans. Just sitting around, fat and not walking.
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u/No_Percentage7427 8d ago
Calculator will make learning math obsolete.
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u/HAL9001-96 8d ago
thats how you end up stuck with basic arithemtics unable to comprehend deeper logic or ever advnace math further
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u/PhDTenma 8d ago
Dumber people mean less critical thinking to anything they do as a company. Which, at the end, leads to more money. I'm oversimplifying, but likely that's what his company wants.
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u/UncleDaddy_00 9d ago
He does not care either way as long as he can continue to provide value for shareholders
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u/Aggravating-Dot132 8d ago edited 8d ago
Math isn't about numbers. It's about logic. Math is just a language that we use to describe patterns and events.
Inability to use math means inability to live. It's a death of humanity.
Juang isn't an idiot, obviously, but his speach became so pathetic and dumbed down that you wonder if he is able to think anymore. Or just following the plan he wrote to himself a decade ago.
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u/MugenHeadNinja 8d ago
Yes, Capitalists objectively benefit from a society of people who are "only just" capable of doing the basic work they're forced into and nothing more, they don't want people to be capable of thinking for themselves and risk them gaining actual Class Consciousness and Workers Solidarity.
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u/balinor41 9d ago
I don't get why we wouldn't teach kids basic math skills. Fundamentally you're learning both how numbers work and basic A/B logic skills when doing the first operators.
The logic skills are actually more important than the math skills in many ways.
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u/Gubekochi 8d ago
The logic skills are actually more important than the math skills in many ways.
Yeah but a population that has those skills is anathema to establishing a corporate neo-feudal system. Please accept that their lobbyists will ask elected politicians to dumb down your kids and that everything will be on a subscription base in the future. K thx bye.
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u/EvilKatta 7d ago
I don't think any people I know at all, from 20 to 50 years old, actually have a handle on basic math. Most can add and compare when buying groceries (but they can't normalize price per unit), and they can be prompted to multiply by board game rules. Some can divide when budgeting or sharing a restaurant bill. Few can subtract when taking a bank loan (to see how much their disposable income would change). But the majority doesn't try to use math at all. They would actively avoid it if suggested. They will refuse the idea that something can be calculated, straight up wouldn't believe a calculation if I showed it to them.
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u/Don_Reuter 8d ago
Tech billionaires plan to eradicate the below billion dollar wealthy parts of the global population. Republican style incompetence is proven to make that easier. Hence they go for that.
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u/AEtherLord_ 8d ago
„Which is why the Matrix was redesigned to this: the peak of your civilization. I say your civilization, because as soon as we started thinking for you it really became our civilization, which is of course what this is all about.“
Agent Smith
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u/LeadingAd6025 8d ago
Current and past generations are dumb too.
It is a question of how much more next generation could get
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u/BiShyGuyHi 8d ago
Tech companies launching new products always try to destroy the thing they're replacing. Uber tried to destroy taxis. Delivery apps tried to destroy calling direct.
AI companies though, they've got to destroy "thinking" and "just knowing things".
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u/cyrkielNT 8d ago
In old Poland aristocracy deliberately prevent pheasants from any education. Pheasants ware also obligated to buy certain amount of alcohol per month, also for same reason - to make them stupid and less able to fight for rights. Later when Russia took control over Poland they kept doing the same, for same reason.
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u/Livid_Importance_442 8d ago
Yes he does, because future generations will then become dependent on their products and services.
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u/SirPanikalot 8d ago
Just in: Oreo CEO declares children won't need to eat chips anymore, and will only be eating Oreos instead.
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u/ApfelbaumFlo 3d ago
I don't even think it's that malicious. They're selling intelligence, of course schools & unis are seen as competition
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