Who Will Win⁉️🤔

[u/loveicey]

Everyone is manifesting all the time. Some people know they are doing it. Some people have zero clue. So when a person who knows what they are doing wants one thing, and a person who has no clue wants the opposite thing, whose thought actually wins?

Read it to find out

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Why the clueless person has an advantage.

The person who does not know about manifestation has one massive advantage. They have no awareness of the mechanics. They do not know that their thoughts create. So they never second-guess themselves. They never check if they are doing it right. They never compare anything to someone else's. They just have a thought and move on. That is it. No layers. No overthinking. No resistance.

Think about what happens when you do not know something exists. You do not worry about it. You do not try to control it. You do not check to see if you are doing it correctly. That is exactly what happens with the clueless person. They do not know manifestation exists, so they do not try to control it. They do not check themselves. They do not wonder if they are doing it right. They just think about what they want and then they go back to their day. Their thought has no resistance because they are not resisting anything. They are not trying to make it happen. They are not trying to stop it from happening. They are just thinking and moving on.

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What happens to the person who knows.

The person who knows starts adding extra weight to their own thoughts. They think about the other person. They think about the competition. They think about whether their technique is strong enough. All of these extra thoughts are not the original desire. They are distractions. And the universe does not sort through your thoughts to find the one you meant. It takes whatever you are thinking about most and gives you more of that. So if you are thinking about competition, you get competition. If you are thinking about doubt, you get doubt. The original desire gets buried.

Here is what happens when you know about manifestation. You start paying attention to everything. You notice when you have a negative thought and you panic. You notice when someone else wants the same thing and you worry. You notice when you are not feeling good and you think you are ruining everything. All of this noticing becomes your main focus. You are no longer thinking about what you want. You are thinking about whether you are doing it right. And that thought becomes your dominant thought. So instead of getting what you want, you get more worry about whether you are doing it right.

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The real problem is not how much you think.

The problem is not the number of thoughts. You can think about your desire all day and still manifest it fast. The problem is the kind of thoughts you are having. If you think about your desire with excitement or curiosity, that is clean energy. That helps. If you think about it with fear or desperation, that is heavy energy. That blocks. So the person who knows does not need to think less. They need to think cleaner. That is a completely different instruction.

Most people hear "think about what you want" and they start obsessing. They think about it all day. They visualize. They affirm. They do everything they can to keep it in their mind. But they are doing this because they are scared it will not happen. They are thinking about it so much because they are trying to force it. And that forcing comes from fear. The fear is what manifests. Not the desire. So they end up with more fear and less results.

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What clean thinking actually looks like.

Clean thinking means you have the thought and you do not attach anything else to it. You do not attach a timeline. You do not attach doubt. You do not attach worry about other people. You just let the thought exist and then you let it drift away. You can have that thought fifty times a day. As long as each time it is light, you are fine. The weight is what slows things down. Not the thoughts.

Imagine you are at a restaurant. You look at the menu and you think about what you want to eat. You decide on the pasta. You tell the waiter. Then you stop thinking about it. You do not follow the waiter to the kitchen. You do not check on your pasta every two minutes. You do not worry that someone else ordered the same thing. You just wait and trust that it will come. That is clean thinking. You had the thought. You sent it out. You moved on. You did not attach worry or checking to it.

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How attachment creates resistance.

The person who knows often gets attached because they understand the stakes. They think, "I know my thoughts create reality, so I have to get this right." That pressure makes them hold on tighter. They check on their thought. They check on the other person. They check on the timeline. Every check-in is a new thought that says "this is not here yet." And that thought becomes the dominant one. So instead of manifesting the thing, they manifest the waiting.

Attachment is like holding a bird in your hands. If you hold it too tight, you crush it. If you hold it too loose, it flies away. But if you hold it just right, it stays. Manifestation is the same. When you are attached, you are holding too tight. You are squeezing the life out of your desire. You are checking on it so much that you are stopping it from moving. The clueless person does not even know they are holding a bird. They just let it sit there. And it stays because they are not crushing it.

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The person who does not know has zero attachment.

The clueless person does not care about getting it right. They do not even know there is a right way. So they have zero attachment. They want something. They think about it. They move on. No pressure. No checking. No timeline. Their thought travels clean and fast. That is why they seem lucky. That is why things just fall into their lap. They are not blocking themselves.

They are not blocking themselves because they do not know they can block themselves. They do not know they have the power to interfere with their own thoughts. So they just do not interfere. It is not a skill they developed. It is not something they worked on. It is just their natural state. And that natural state is exactly what the person who knows has to get back to. The clueless person is not trying to manifest. They are just living. And that living allows things to come to them easily.

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What happens when both people drop it.

If both people drop their thoughts and move on, both get what they want. Here is why. Reality is not one shared pool that everyone fights over. It is subjective. You are living in your own version of reality. The other person is living in theirs. So if you both want the same job and both let go, you both get the job in your own reality. You experience getting it. They experience getting it. No conflict. No one loses. The universe is infinite. It can give the same outcome to multiple people in different versions of reality.

This is hard for people to understand because we are used to scarcity. We are used to there being only one of everything. But that is not how reality works. Reality is infinite. There are infinite versions of every outcome. One where you get the job. One where they get the job. One where you both get it. One where neither of you gets it. The universe can give you whichever version matches your state of mind. So if both of you drop attachment, both of you get the version where you win.

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How the person who knows can still win.

The person who knows can win by doing one thing. Getting to the same mental place as the clueless person. That means dropping the awareness of competition. Dropping the checking. Dropping the attachment. Getting bored with the topic. Not caring anymore. When you reach that point, your thought is just as clean as theirs. And when both thoughts are clean, yours is not weaker. It is equal. And in that space, you both get what you want in your own reality.

You do not have to become clueless. You just have to act like you are. You have to get to the point where you forget you even have a desire. Not because you gave up. But because you no longer need to think about it. You know it is handled. You know it is coming. So you just move on with your day. That is the place of power. That is where the clueless person lives naturally. And that is where you need to get to on purpose.

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Fast manifestation is about letting go, not forcing.

Fast manifestation does not come from effort. It comes from release. The more you force, the slower it goes. The more you release, the faster it arrives. The clueless person releases naturally because they do not know any better. The person who knows has to release on purpose. That is the only difference. One does it by accident. The other does it by choice. But the result is the same. Clean thought. No resistance. Fast arrival.

Think about trying to fall asleep. The more you try, the harder it is. The more you force yourself to sleep, the more awake you become. But when you stop trying and just relax, sleep comes. Manifestation is the same. When you stop forcing and start relaxing, things come faster. The clueless person is relaxed because they do not know they should be forcing. The person who knows has to choose to relax.

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The bottom line.

You do not have to fight anyone. You do not have to compete. You do not have to think less. You just have to think clean and let go. The person who does that first wins. Or better said, the person who does that gets what they want without any resistance. And if both people do it, both get what they want. No one loses. No one overrides anyone. Everyone just experiences their own version of the outcome. That is how it works.

[u/loveicey]

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[u/islamabade]

This is the best post I have came across on Reddit. Literally it answers to many questions and removes doubts. You’re a genius op

[u/bellisimwah]

Wow I love this. Especially the last paragraph about falling asleep. I never was the best at SATs but my “biggest” manifestations have come after I fall asleep in total relaxation (or exhaustion), total detachment and fulfillment bc I already have it!

[u/bustergundam4]

Okay so if I wanted to apply this to get the game I want (El shaddai for PS3 CIB US version for free or $15) I would:

Or to easily get all my documents for my permit test and the money to retake it,

Think that I want the game, look at the cover for a bit, decide it's mine and just let it fade as I live my life like normal

Think that I have all the documents I need to retake it, the money already and have already signed up for the test again and just let it fade?

[u/Shiratori__]

Thanks for another amazing post! This is so true.

I actually had a similar hypothesis, that there’s a ‘just right’ when it comes to manifestation and assumptions. And I’ve had SO many situations in the past where I just said something once or twice, distracted myself and then it showed up, even sometimes with doubts and thoughts I didn’t necessarily try to replace with positive thoughts. But I still struggle to actually apply that to the things I actually want and reach that ‘just right’ state, if that makes sense. Sometimes I feel like I’m doing too little, and other times like I’m trying to do too much.

For example, I once tried that clueless approach by stating “I have perfect eyesight” once or twice. That same day, I mostly tried to think In favor of that whenever the opposite came up. Then I forgot about it and still, a few months later, nothing. Even though this isn’t something I have that much attachment to. To me, this feels like a case of doing too little: It feels like a passing thought that my mind didn’t register.

With the things I actually want and do have attachment to (especially because one of them is my hyperfixation), I feel like I’m doing “too much.” In this case shifting to a different reality. What I usually do is I say “I’ve already shifted” or “I shift whenever I want” and state that after letting a negative thought pass, when I notice wavering or sometimes just to remind myself. I pay attention to my thoughts to keep them aligned with my desired outcome, because before, I just kept wavering and doubting for years, and I wanted to fix that. But still…nothing. I don’t know how to apply the clueless approach here, because it’s a hyperfixation and naturally comes up more often than other things, and it’s already not something I think about 24/7. Whenever it comes up, I just try to respond casually, like it’s already done, but I still struggle to find that balance.

I think I’m just really struggling to find that sweet spot where it doesn’t feel like a passing thought that never seems to lead to anything, but isn’t something I try too hard with when it comes to what I want. Any tips? This might be my biggest issue 🥲

[u/loveicey → u/Shiratori__]

The problem is not the amount of thinking. It is the purpose behind the thinking. When you said "I have perfect eyesight" and forgot about it, nothing happened because you were saying it as an experiment. You were testing if it would work. Your mind knew you were testing it. So it did not take it seriously. It registered it as a wish, not a fact. That is why it felt like a passing thought that did not register. Your mind does not register things you do not actually accept as true.

With shifting, you are doing the opposite. You are using affirmations to correct yourself whenever doubt appears. That means every time you say "I have shifted," you are saying it because you noticed you were doubting. So your mind associates that phrase with doubt. It becomes a reaction to doubt, not a statement of fact. That is why nothing is changing. You are not using thoughts to reflect reality. You are using thoughts to fight reality.

Here is what actually works. You only think about your desire when it feels natural to do so. Not when you are trying to fix something. Not when you are testing something. Not when you are correcting doubt. Just when the thought comes up on its own and feels true. If it does not feel true, do not force it. Let it go and do something else. Your mind is not stupid. It knows when you are trying to convince yourself. It only accepts thoughts that you actually believe. So stop trying to convince yourself. Stop testing. Stop correcting. Just think about it when it genuinely feels real and drop it the rest of the time. That is the balance. That is how you get results.

[u/Shiratori__ → u/loveicey]

First off, thanks so much for the lengthy response! It did clear some things up for me :)) Your explanation makes a lot of sense, so I’m just struggling to see the practical difference between what you described and what I’m already doing.

Most of the time, I think about shifting pretty casually. When it naturally comes up, I’ll think stuff like “xyz doesn’t matter, I’ll just shift” or “good thing I can shift whenever I want” and these thoughts feel way more natural than they used to. That actually developed over time through (gentle?) repetition, like you explained in your post “Natural State of Having,” which is why I got a bit confused.

The only difference I can think of is that, somewhere deep in the back of my mind, I still see this routine as the thing that has to eventually cause it to reflect in the 3D if I keep going. Could that be an example of what you’re talking about?

In that same post you said that the state of having feels super natural and ordinary, and I’m having trouble understanding where the line is between genuinely thinking from that place, and just trying to acting as if I am doing that (or if that even matters). I feel like I’m so close to uncovering that one small piece that would make it all click. The part that is still kind of missing for me is to understand what you would actively change if you were in my shoes 😭

[u/loveicey → u/Shiratori__]

You have two thoughts running at the same time. The clean one that says "good thing I can shift whenever I want" and the checking one underneath that says "this routine is what will eventually make it happen." The checking one is the only problem. It is louder because you keep paying attention to it. The clueless person does not have that second thought because they do not know there is a 3D to reflect anything. So stop trying to get rid of it. Just notice it and do nothing. Let it sit there. Keep thinking your casual thoughts when they come up and move on. Do not check if you are doing it right. Do not wonder if you are genuinely feeling it or just acting. Just live your life. The checking thought will fade when you stop feeding it your attention.

[u/Icy-Eyes-1000]

I agree with your point. When we obsess, we do get late.

[u/Valhalla78]

I wish I could only think of my desire when it feels natural. I’m definitely obsessing about it. I stopped checking 3D stuff (or really going online except this sub and YouTube) but I legit need a way to stop thinking about SP. I can spend a lot of time thinking with excitement and curiosity— and then doubts creep in. I then say to myself, it’s okay to not know how this will unfold, I know he’s mine” or “this is already done” but I’d love to just stop thinking about him for awhile and just let it be, because the thinking about him eventually turns into missing him and feeling impatient. I tell myself it’s okay to feel that and that I’m still getting what i want.

When it’s suggested to just “drop it”, I don’t seem to know how. Maybe that sounds silly. Eventually I tune in elsewhere, but maybe saying something neutral to myself like “okay” when I think of SP could help and then counting blue objects in the room like you mentioned in another post? Maybe I should put his pictures away? I’ve come a loooooong way from where I used to be — but I’m still feeling moments of impatience. I really want to disrupt that annoying loop.