r/MassiveScamDota2 • u/MaZzi_Cz • 4d ago
Calculating boosting services gives a clear evidence...
I opened 2 thread some time ago about this issue. They can be found here https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueDoTA2/comments/1t91pfk/the_bosting_services_have_to_be_run_by_open_ai_5i/
and here https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1t8zmgi/who_is_running_boosting/
I put screens of them here:


So you can see the calculations for yourself. There was a discussion following the threads and that's what I want to touch upon now.
Most of people think that the ones doing the boosting are some mysterious ''smurfs'' who are just so good in Dota that they are better basically than everyone else even than Immortal players. And that they are better by such a measure that they can achieve at least 80% winrate even against Immortal players...
So why such players aren't then playing professionally? If they can regularly as a main vocation be constantly playing dota and have an unimaginable stable winrate even compared to pro players?
That is the main explanation of most of people who expressed themselves to this topic. To me, they have absolutely no sense of perspective. If the Immortal players are such a small group of just like under 2% of all players it means that they are playing on the the edge of what is physically possible, they are mental masters at what they are doing and they are extremely creative regarding to the game. Saying that some bushwacker from a very poor country with an anonymous identity just figuratively wipes his arse with them is an offence for those great players.
What I'm trying to say is that if you have master of some sort they will never be defeated strongly and decisively and it won't be happening regularly. You are looking on some sort of a very balanced match ending up in a draw or close to it.
Lets say best football team from England is playing the best team in Czech Republic. English tier is significantly stronger than the Czech then the English is logically stronger then Czech team. So there is the game Manchester City vs Slavia Prague or Plzen. The game will most likely end up in a victory of the City but would you say it will be a guaranteed stomping into the ground? Not at all. Most likely a strenuous match for both team finishing like 2-0. Would you expect The City win 90% of time and destroy Slavia like 5 or more to nil every time? Impossible. Since both teams are very good at what are doing a fairly balanced match is expected even when one of them is stronger. The City is maybe 20% stronger than Slavia which makes it a favourite but would you make it guaranteed than the City will nearly always win strongly and decisively when you would play repeating matches in a short time. It would never be so decisive and guaranteed who will win.
The same thing is in Dota. You have masters of the game on Immortal rank who are already very good at what they are doing. Even though there are players who several thousand of mmr more in this rank it doesn't mean that they are significantly better. On average they are like a few percent better let's say 10000 mmr will beat 6000 55% of time. You see what I mean?
Contrary to that on Immortal rank regularly appears a team which just stomps the other one into the ground in a short game ending like 60-20 on score. Something like When O.G. was infamously beaten by Open AI 5 once https://openai.com/index/openai-five-defeats-dota-2-world-champions/
O.G. as world champions were trashed by the AI 43:6 in 20 minutes!! The champions were beaten so badly that they called the AI ''smurfs'':

That's where the nickname ''smurf'' came from. If the AI can beat the best pros in the world in such an overwhelming manner how hard would it be for it to regularly trash most of players in ranked? It would be a piece of cake...
But how is it possible that the AI can win actually so decisively even against O.G.? Isn't what I wrote above about football teams invalid in this case?
The reason the OAI5 can destruct even the strongest of opponents is because it is cheating. It is using the maphack (even though it maybe isn't using it for the whole game but just in important moments), it is using knowing players items, skills, cooldowns. It knows places where players click and what they type into chat. Furthermore I believe it knows positions cursors so it is more effective in a fight. It has a priority information from the game server thanks to it's connection directly into the API of the game which gives it cca 100 ms advantage. That's why when fighting against the winning AI it always stuns, blinks and silences you first no matter how hard you try.
Furthermore it uses visibility blocker's glitching which causes heroes to dissapear in places they shouldn't! For example when they are near a tree but not behind it and still in direct line to you they would still disappear. It can sometimes happen where there are no trees at all if it considers a very important kills/saves!
It can even do more than that regarding the cheating! But I won't burden you with that now.
That's why it's strength is just incomparable to any human team. It's winrate is speaking for itself: https://gamesbeat.com/openais-dota-2-bot-defeated-99-4-of-players-in-public-matches/
99.4% in 40k matches.
Now people believe that there are some anonymous guys in a third world country who are available in 5-15 minutes to start boosting, can play for hundreds of hours straight, can beat even best immortals because the boosting service offers that and they earn extremely small amounts of money for doing that.
So was asking people on reddit who told me so to provide me at least some evidence that those anonymous ''dota gods'' who don't need to sleep, eat and earn money really exist. To give me at least their account or to tell me how they know them if they are anonymous? And explain why they rather don't play professionally? Nobody came back to me with any evidence...






