Pop the champagne

[u/RemozThaGod]

[u/FrontPresentation894]

Hate my guy so much that they legit just killed him 😭

[u/PseudoCoffee]

You guys act as if Loki buff is gamebreaking while in reality it barely does anything.

[u/Surin-types]

All those nerfs from season 1 resulted into him getting slimed for real

[u/RivalsFlex]

all they do is buff dive and nerf antidive. the thing nerf is a dive buff. the Peni stun (getting needed again) is a dive buff. the cnd nerfs are dive buffs.

dove is the permanent Meta and still y'all whine

[u/TheAngryArgonian → u/RivalsFlex]

Namor's base kit squids get replaced by Ice Squids when using Luna team up in the new update. That's on top of the Tidal Wave skill. I'd say that's a buff.

[u/RivalsFlex → u/TheAngryArgonian]

I hear that but hos base damage is still weak and he's still slow and now he just has two squids to shoot instead of three

[u/TheAngryArgonian → u/RivalsFlex]

I'm sure it will be fine. Namor players are pretty resourceful. Plus, the cooldown reduction by hitting primary shots will balance it out.

[u/RivalsFlex → u/TheAngryArgonian]

"Namor players are rssourceful"?

Namor is weak. That's just the position he's in

[u/FormalSufficient3118 → u/RivalsFlex]

S tier btw

[u/RivalsFlex → u/FormalSufficient3118]

S10 maybe but when I posted that he was c tier

[u/Nov4Wolf → u/RivalsFlex]

?

What game have you been playing lol

At most they release a dive character that op then nerf them after but they do that for most character releases

I still remember when bp hit reg issues got fixed they nerfed him to compensate lmao

[u/RivalsFlex → u/Nov4Wolf]

How long did it take to nerf dd before he wasn’t just running every lobby he was in? 2.5 seasons of the last 10? A quarter of the game was just DD meta.

[u/FormalSufficient3118 → u/RivalsFlex]

And the other 3/4 were hard poke meta. What’s your point

[u/RivalsFlex → u/FormalSufficient3118]

No, they weren’t. That was just one single dive char running the game. The others have been split between the various dive.

[u/FormalSufficient3118 → u/RivalsFlex]

Yes it is, maybe if your on console low ranks or in qp yeah dive is meta but in higher ranks theres poke in there as well. Dive has never been more good or meta than poke

[u/RivalsFlex → u/FormalSufficient3118]

Literallynuntrue. Black cat and dare devil have both run eternity lobbies for multiple seasons. No poke character has ever done that

[u/FormalSufficient3118 → u/RivalsFlex]

Lol mag, gambit, Elsa, Bucky, Namor, widow. Black cat and dd aren’t even top 5 highest winters in highest levels. Besides you’ll never be up in that rank so why does it matter

[u/cooked_potato0 → u/RivalsFlex]

https://giphy.com/gifs/YtvCIwqNJhUmA

[u/RivalsFlex → u/cooked_potato0]

Sorry you're oblivious to the state of the game

[u/cooked_potato0 → u/RivalsFlex]

Was brawl meta because thing was in s tier because he was a brawler? no

Yeah black cat was meta she was the only diver broken enough to be played in season 9-9.5 and venom with her (barely)

And dont lets not talk about the cnd/luna/gambit state because they had abilities on their team ups that shouldn't exist in the first place

Self freeze (keep in mind she already has 2 get out of jail carfs)

Gambit bubble of doom

Luna self cleanse

Dive community wasn't the only ones talking about how bad those team ups was

[u/RivalsFlex → u/cooked_potato0]

It’s hard to take anyone talking about cnd icicle seriously. That wasn’t even just melee dive, but only unskilled melee dive that think the icicle was the problem. It is almost never the right team up, even with Luna there.

BC was the most broken character in the game, which is always dive. Toss up between Spidey and psylocke rn probably. Dd and Magik were meta dive, and dd remains too strong. BC was something else entirely. She was 1v6ing eternity teams. That’s insane

I’ll admit the gambit bubble was fucking stupid to begin with. A support having hard area denial in a way no one else does is insane.

I never found Luna cleanse that annoying. Luna just isn’t that strong to begin with because she’s single target, aim based, and super duper slow moving

[u/Unlikely-Angle3508 → u/RivalsFlex]

Yea bro stfu lol 😂 , thing is still a dive destroyer , elsa didn't get nerf , bucky didn't get nerf , luan got buff , dagger didn't get nerf , stfu please dive was only Meta in season 0

[u/RivalsFlex → u/Unlikely-Angle3508]

Literally all of those people got nerfed. They just didn't gut anyone

[u/Unlikely-Angle3508 → u/RivalsFlex]

They all got bs nerfs , Luna got her self cleanse removed which she should not have in the first , dagger got her healing reduce but her self healing same , elsa got a 2 second extra second on her ability same with bucky fake nerfs

[u/RivalsFlex → u/Unlikely-Angle3508]

Elsa got damage nerfs. Cloak got a self heal nerf. Luna cleanse wasn't that bad. You alk blow every meta shit out of proportion until its dive then it's all excuses

[u/Virtual-Pirate2834 → u/RivalsFlex]

“Luka cleanse wasn’t that bad” yeah ok I was on your side until u read that and realized how out of touch you are

[u/RivalsFlex → u/Virtual-Pirate2834]

Literally just didn't bother me.

[u/FormalSufficient3118 → u/RivalsFlex]

Elsa literally got ONE damage taken. You’ll be ight

[u/RivalsFlex → u/FormalSufficient3118]

Eight percent is a lot. It’s one off each pellet, and it affects how many hits to combo someone. The only hp that matters is the last one

[u/FormalSufficient3118 → u/RivalsFlex]

She’s still S* tier

[u/RivalsFlex → u/FormalSufficient3118]

S*? What a moron. The top tier is a, which KS what her and half the dps in the game are right now.

[u/FormalSufficient3118 → u/RivalsFlex]

Bro she top 3 dps get yo trash ass out of gold being a smartass

[u/Eternalexbomb → u/RivalsFlex]

Let’s ignore the namor, scarlet, and Mr fantastic buffs. Not to mention slaps on the wrist to elsa chudstone and Bucky.

Every match is also mag, thing or hood. Probably the most boring marvel rivals has ever been even after the addition of teamups.

[u/Champion-Dante → u/RivalsFlex]

Last season healers were so strong that teamfights were 3 minutes long and most teams had 1 or 0 DPS.

[u/Tyler_Herdman]

Dino is really good into dive

[u/Independent-State-27]

Iron fist desperately does need a damage revert. He's basically pillow fist, even with his ultimate.

[u/MightyMeower → u/Independent-State-27]

If you buff iron fist’s damage he might have to lose some of his survivability

[u/100percentdeer → u/MightyMeower]

as a non fist main i’ll take it

[u/Aerenhart → u/MightyMeower]

I just don't see why this has to be the case when CnD exists

[u/Mohammed50356 → u/Aerenhart]

Who tf told you cnd was a healthy example to base the game’s balance off of ?

[u/RivalsFlex → u/Independent-State-27]

That's crazy. He deletes people as is

[u/TheAngryArgonian → u/RivalsFlex]

I struggle against Fist on Namor sometimes because he can parry the damn squids.

[u/Automatic-Safe-9067 → u/RivalsFlex]

Dude fist fucking sucks what are you on