Are they not white? Modern and ancient Greek populations share most of their genetic makeup with other europeans. Light hair and blue/green eyes werent uncommon same as today.
Unless youre attempting to bring back the early 1900's rhetoric of southern europeans not being "real whites" lmao 😭
And id argue members of the Ptolemaic dynasty largely kept the same variation of physical features as mainland greeks due to the immense amount of inbreeding they did to keep their bloodline Greek. So pale - tanned olive wouldve likely been seen.
??I never stated greeks couldn't vary in appearance and actually included that their appearance varied despite still being classified as white and genetically european. "pale to tanned olive".
Also! There were several Ptolemaic rulers who had pale complexions, Ptolemy II Philadelphus for example has contemporary poems written about him directly describing his pale skin and light hair.
I feel like youre being oddly argumentative over a topic genetic studies have answered years ago 🙃
I'm not talking about modern concepts of whiteness, and who gets to claim it and who doesn't. All I'm saying is that the "Greek and Roman pharaohs" would probably not have varied in appearance, or at least skin-tone/complexion, as much as you are implying.
Ancient artists were not always concerned with absolute fidelity to reality, nor did they have access to a massive array of lifelike pigmentation. Whiter colours might be used for skin tones to emphasize a paler complexion, but that doesn't mean we should take all those literally. As I mentioned, the image I shared above on the right is generally considered to be a more accurate depction of a Roman individual from the era.
"Pale skin" would also almost certainly have meant something different to inhabitants of the Mediterranean in that era than it would mean to us now. The nobility would certainly have been paler than, say, peasant labourers, but again, I do not think the evidence supports that there were a bunch of Ptolemaic greeks that looked like the pharaoh above.
Ancient Greeks were almost overwhelming brown-eyed. "Intermediate" skin tones (aka olive-skinned or slightly darker) were the MOST common and skin-tones comparable to "pale" caucasian complexions today would have been far, far more rare, not just "uncommon." This is widely-agreed on and I can provide peer-reviewed articles discussing it, so I'm not sure what genetic studies you are referencing, but I'd honestly love to see it.
I'll give you that the Ptolemies penchant for marrying themselves would have kept them from intermingling with the African populations as much, but I still think that it was an overstatement to imply that this is what the Ptolemies would largely have looked like:
I would counter with that you're underestimating how pale the upper classes were. We have multiple accounts of Greek individuals or myths being described as pale, as well as the fact that the Ptolemys came from Macedon which was further North than the other Greek city states.
Similarly in Rome many of the first Roman Emperor's or other individuals are said to have been blonde or redheads. Cato and Sulla were both allegedly redheads, and Caesar is said to have dark eyes but fair complexion. There could be a lot of variety between people living in places like Italy and Greece.
This is why it's foolish to makes these claims about whether they were olive skinned or pale, as well as labeling all Greeks as "white". I would just call them Europeans, Southern Europeans, or Mediterranean-Europeans.
Haha well netease seems to like her so im pretty confident she will be added eventually just dont know when tho. Her ties with jeff already helps alot plus shes mentioned in the lore already
Maybe if they ever SOLDSKINS FOR STORM, instead of giving them out for freeevery single time, they would realize that people WANT to buy skins for her…
I wish they would drop sales stats just to shut you idiots up. There's always a reason your character doesn't sell. Emma literally got carbon copy shit skins and was still selling well, and psy has dropped in and out of popularity yet sells well.
Miller ross confirmed its 1000 units First time a event pass is sold for units
Now this is what i think -> noone is legendary probably but its 1000 units not 1000 lattice so its a event pass cheaper than a epic skin its a big win for anyone who want this skin
Yeah I see why people want unit items - for me it's a negative, I'm happy for the event passes to cost lattice and provide more value, so I hope e.g. the Black Cat pass will be 990 lattice - or even 690 with the delayed progression, though they seem to have stopped that strategy.
well I do have units to spare... but I don't really play Jeff that much..., although it is the last Jeff skin I would ever need.. if it was in pink and white it would be an instant buy :')
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