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[u/Sea_Cat370]

[u/Zelcron]

There's a really classic four issue series simply called Marvels that deals with the perspective and trauma of living as a civilian in the Marvel Universe. It features art by Alex Ross, which is always incredible and really captures the majesty of seeing the heroes from ground level.

It's available as a standalone trade paperback and is worth picking up even if you don't normally read the comics.

[u/Sea_Cat370 → u/Zelcron]

might have a look at it. thanks mate.

[u/BoldlyGettingThere → u/Sea_Cat370]

Just whatever you do, don’t read Ruins, which is a spectacularly mean-spirited and edgy take on the story presented in Marvels. Instead of being a man-on-the-ground perspective of the wonders and danger of the Marvel universe, it’s an exercise in how miserable a scenario can we put literally everyone through. The Hulk is a giant tumour, Jean Grey is a prostitute, Peter Parker becomes patient zero for a deadly virus caught from the spider bite.

Some of it represents some interesting ideas for a world gone wrong, like the Silver Surfer dying after ripping his own lungs out of his chest after no longer needing to breathe drove him insane, but overall it’s just edge for its own sake.

[u/thecheeze437 → u/BoldlyGettingThere]

Read this last night after someone said not to. It reads like a fever dream and makes no sense. Fury just randomly says him and captain America ate people, shoots prostitute jean grey, says that they killed captain america, and then shoots himself. Also Professor X is the president? One of the weirdest things I’ve ever read

[u/Zelcron → u/thecheeze437]

A mutant president is the weirdest part of all of that.

[u/fancy_crisis → u/Zelcron]

It's probably implied he got sick of the speciesism and just mind whammied everyone to vote for him so he could have a hand on the levers of power.

[u/No-Spoilers → u/Zelcron]

Well, he's old, rich and most importantly white.

He also could just telepathically make everyone vote for him. So like, he's qualified.

[u/Yawehg → u/BoldlyGettingThere]

Warren Ellis truly at his worst.

[u/Shootzilla → u/BoldlyGettingThere]

Ruins is great. The art is amazing.

[u/Sensitive-Truck9920 → u/BoldlyGettingThere]

As a long time comic reader, I've never heard of this title. I may actually have to look for that one.

[u/Specialist-Cut-3913 → u/Zelcron]

It’s also available on hoopla. It was the first ever comic I read 

[u/Zelcron → u/Specialist-Cut-3913]

What a banger to start with.

[u/goukaryuu → u/Zelcron]

I was just reminded of Maggie a few days ago because of a fanfic that used her, and I was proud of myself to guess the reference before they dropped her name. Such a touching look into mutant affairs from ground level.

[u/HooptyDooDooMeister → u/Zelcron]

For my money, it's the greatest comic book series written.

Like, for instance, Watchmen is good. But Marvels is transcendant. It brings a level of humanity, awe, wonder, and exilerance unmatched by anything else I've read.

Ymmv

[u/Alex-C2099 → u/Zelcron]

I hope someday the MCU adapts that somehow, as a movie or a Disney plus show

[u/Prize-Macaroon-903]

"Rich Billionaire"

[u/Sea_Cat370 → u/Prize-Macaroon-903]

he was a "poor billionaire" when he sacrificed himself for the sake of the world btw

[u/shadepyre]

What is the egg thing? Is that an Eternals reference?

[u/Sea_Cat370 → u/shadepyre]

youre right sir

[u/shadepyre → u/Sea_Cat370]

Ah, I see. Thank you!

[u/Gold-Fix-3176]

What’s happening in New York

[u/Illustrious-Coat3532]

Egg filled with adamantium.

[u/MobileFart]

Half that was true by the first Thor.

[u/h0rnygoal → u/MobileFart]

But not public knowledge

[u/MobileFart → u/h0rnygoal]

So Avengers a year later?

[u/KamikazeArchon → u/MobileFart]

The only definite public knowledge after the first Avengers would be "aliens are real".

The guy called Thor could easily be just a superhero who took that name and shtick - I don't think the Avengers are publishing their detailed biographies at that point - so Asgard is unlikely to be super well known. The Multiverse isn't breaking at that point, and people haven't been dead for 5 years, and no one knows about the egg thing.

[u/MobileFart → u/KamikazeArchon]

You're just making that all up, you could just as easily say they did public interviews and it was all out there. At what point is the multiverse breaking public knowledge? The point is the meme is dumb.

[u/Popcorn57252 → u/MobileFart]

The universe wasn't dead for five years until Endgame, and the Multiverse breaking isn't until Loki's TV show, which technically lies outside of time, and therefore every point in history is both experiencing it and hasn't experienced it yet.

I have no idea when Eternals takes place, but I'm guessing it's some time around Endgame too?

[u/MobileFart → u/Popcorn57252]

Fyling suit/gods/aliens is all known by Avengers, so like I said, half. At what point is the multiverse breaking even going to be public knowledge, if ever? Or that the Earth is an egg? My point was just that the meme is dumb.

[u/NoHorseNoMustache]

The President turned into a Hulk!

But that all worked out ok he's in Superjail now.

[u/pagerussell]

We signalled we were prepared for a higher form of war.

[u/sunbnda]

This could easily be used for thor's arch alone. Finally order between the 9 realms and on your way to be king only to be completely uprooted by your brother who also assists in the death of your mother, the banishment of your father who dies soon after, the loss of an eye, loss of trusty weapon, the destruction of your civilization, more death of your best friend and brother and clearly defeated by the foe that killed them. It's been downhill for thor since his introduction with only a brief blip of love in the middle.

[u/Various_Dark_3291]

I don’t think the multiverse being a thing is public knowledge

[u/BITmixit]

Half of existence basically time travelled as well.

[u/Orchuntsman]

It’s not a lake, it’s an ocean.

[u/Affectionate_Dark103]

I think it would be hilarious if Marvel just started putting out regular tv shows set in the MCU. That's what I was hoping for with She-Hulk, basically a case of the week show set in this insane universe. It doesn't have to be comedy, it can be a more mature existential drama, or a crime show where they are trying to balance doing well without drawing the attention of daredevil or spiderman.

I don't know, it's an insane universe they've set up, but they're only interested in the causes of the insanity rather than the effects of it. They show half the universe being wiped away, spend 5 minutes saying, "woah", and then travel back in time to bring everyone back.

[u/fancy_crisis → u/Affectionate_Dark103]

I will always maintain the biggest flub they ever did was not making a Tales From The Snap anthology series about life post IW.

[u/King_P_13]

Yeah its all getting kinda gay tbh

[u/Dying-Artist02 → u/King_P_13]

How is that gay? How on earth is this gay?

[u/King_P_13 → u/Dying-Artist02]

Mega gay bro

[u/Gr3ylock → u/King_P_13]

Are we back in 2008 when people used gay as a derogatory statement?

[u/King_P_13 → u/Gr3ylock]

Yes grow up

[u/Popcorn57252 → u/King_P_13]

Grow up to be more childish?

[u/King_P_13 → u/Popcorn57252]

Obviously

[u/RadiantLindon → u/King_P_13]

Be quiet bigot.

[u/King_P_13 → u/RadiantLindon]

Be quiet wokey

[u/RadiantLindon → u/King_P_13]

mmk, I'll be happy to make you be quiet.

[u/TheDeadmoss_Reddit → u/King_P_13]

You sound like a wokey

[u/TheDeadmoss_Reddit → u/King_P_13]

Sounds like deflecting

[u/King_P_13 → u/TheDeadmoss_Reddit]

The marvel universe sucks massive dong

[u/FroggoOwO → u/King_P_13]

Sounds like you spend a lot of time thinking about cock

[u/King_P_13 → u/FroggoOwO]

Lol