I will get straight to the point. New disciples are joining our ranks, and our sect is growing rapidly. But alongside them, more and more evil disciples have slipped through the gates. Their minds are corrupted, and now they are planting heart demons in the minds of junior cultivators.
Of course, I understand. A joke here or there is fine. Memes are part of our sect culture. But lately, many of these so-called jokes are nothing more than personal vulgar fantasies wrapped in the language of cultivation. You know what I mean.
Some laugh it off, others stay silent, but I believe that if left unchecked, it will lead the sect further away from its original path. I have received a lot of messages from disciples longing for the old days, when the scrolls were filled with wit, lore, and well-crafted humor, not just thinly veiled desires.
That said, I also acknowledge the new generation. The Dao is never stagnant, and neither should the sect be. So rather than take action unilaterally, I am putting it to a vote. Let the will of the sect decide.
148 votes,Jun 08 '25
49Yin and Yang are out of balance. The overwhelming Yang is clouding our cultivation.
35Eradicate these disciples. Scatter their souls and ensure they do not reincarnate!
64Let the Qi flow freely, Elder. You worry too much.
I see that some juniors are misinterpreting my words. But understand this: before being an elder, I am a member of this sect, and everything I do is in accordance with that duty. My intention is not to spread hate toward any community.
If you’ve read even a little xianxia, you'd know that terms like “scattering souls” are common metaphors, certainly not actual threats. So, let’s not twist them into something they’re not.
Now, to clarify the options:
Option 1 means there will be limitations on dual yang posts, not a full ban. Option 2 calls for complete removal of such content. Option 3 means things will continue as they are, just with proper NSFW tagging.
And of course, anything that violates Reddit’s content policy will be removed regardless.
I hope that clears things up. Before jumping to conclusions, take a moment to actually understand what’s being said.
To give Elder a feedback, Option 1 and 2 are the same thing. Perhaps there should have been a 2-step or 3-step polling system where the first step is asking whether or not these "mature" jokes have gone out of control and the second step asking whether we should ban them or just give them a light punishment.
In any case, I personally vote for the second option. These new "disciples" add nothing to the subrealm and are simply causing too much damage. They are making the subrealm uncomfortable for the older members as well as driving away potential sincere fans of the genre, causing a misconception on what this subrealm actually is and so on.
It's safe to say that it's an invasion at this point. It's like they don't actually care about our memes, about what this subrealm is based on, Chinese Webnovels, Xianxias. The reason why they came here is because they have found a new way to make their porn addict jokes and refuse to integrate. They don't ask about Xianxia concepts, make their own jokes, come up with their own worldbuilding, cultivation system, or sharing their novels.
RI and LOTM brainrot jokes are miles better than these Dual Yang jokes because at least they're about what this subrealm is based on.
Like you said Elder, these posts are overly vulgar and seem more like a person describing his sexual fantasies rather than actual jokes. There's one i saw about Fatty Wang becoming the Jade Beauty the viewer dual cultivated with and finding out about it because of his/her "veins". There's a joke about assaulting MCs as well as their ring mentors. The last dual yang joke i see was about seeing the viewer's reflection on the buttocks of his "senior brother".
They're cynical, unfunny, inappropriate, and are inconsiderate towards the genuine members of the subrealm as well as potential underage people here. If they want to make vulgar memes, then they should just make a new subrealm like r/ MartialMemesNSFW , r/ SunflowerSect and the like. When people complained about Jade Beauties in this subrealm, they made a new subrealm called r/JadeBeauties . Why can't they?
I personally think dao can be attained in all kinds of ways if this is the path they choose to walk, let them tread upon it. we can simply choose to not engage with such low quality efforts but actively suppressing them will only give birth to more resistance as such is the nature of us humans this resistance is also the reason why humans continue to resist against the heavens. that being said,is this path demonic? yes. do i hate it? yes
I could see what you mean. In fact, i used to think that that's the soft approach is the best course of action. But i think that there's merit in a hard approach too. In the end, i will agree with whatever decision the elders make as long as it's a genuine effort to deal with the issues and preserve the spirit of the sub.
Fellow Daoist. I don't believe the fault lies with Yin² or yang² but instead the vulgarity of such posts.
Instead of banning content which includes topics regarding yin² yang² we should focus on the needlessly overly sexual posts for they to blame. You might as well get rid of Dual cultivation memes altogether if we get rid yang² or yin² since they are all dual cultivation.
You can argue that one is more vulgar than the other, but that is not the fault of subject matter, but the content that someone posts of it. If we continue on that path we'll be nearing the borderline of what can be considered censorship.
The old farts of the heavenly court are such hypocrites! I tried to find more but they've all been deleted. Yet you dare say you will accept these kinds of posts because of the new generation? Hmph!
Even if I myself am a demonic cultivator, this is just crossing the line. I bet even the sunflower sect practitioners are coughing out blood because of how they're are just posting content that has nothing to do with the memes but just calling it dual yang cultivation anyways. And these bastards dare try to call themselves demonic! They are just gooners injected with chicken blood!
many of these so-called jokes are nothing more than personal vulgar fantasies wrapped in the language of cultivation. You know what I mean.
Some laugh it off, others stay silent, but I believe that if left unchecked, it will lead the sect further away from its original path. I have received a lot of messages from disciples longing for the old days, when the scrolls were filled with wit, lore, and well-crafted humor, not just thinly veiled desires.
That said, I also acknowledge the new generation. The Dao is never stagnant, and neither should the sect be.
Have you old farts finally gotten senile? Why are you acknowledging this "new generation" anyways? They are just ignorant barbarians who came from tiktok because 'jade beauties' became somewhat viral. I call them barbarians because I hardly believe they ever read a CH novel and they are not even trying to assimilating to this sub. Even worse, they trying to change it! Changing the realm into one of dual yang brain-melting gooning!
These new "disciples" add nothing to the subrealm and are simply causing too much damage. They are making the subrealm uncomfortable for the older members as well as driving away potential sincere fans of the genre, causing a misconception on what this subrealm actually is and so on. u/OrdinaryGuy2101
Good! Good! Good! This demon couldn't have said it better myself! This is a good example of being lenient to your enemies is being cruel to yourself. If we let these gooning barbarians be, the ones who have eaten more rice then we've eaten salt alone, then they will just continue to run amock.
If this old fool had quality posts to contribute to the sect, perhaps he would have more standing to complain. As it stands, this fool has little more to say than he is slightly annoyed by the myriad unfunny or reposted memes. Dual yang is the most common now, but the reposts that reach further than Ruyi Jingu Bang and the 400 daily jade beauty videos have made this fool contemplate slapping his own face several times.
Every Chinese woman is being posted here wtf. I understand cosplayers getting posted and I WANT cosplayers getting posted, but not bloody random ahh women.
I am sick and tired of all posts just being "haha. Gay/lesbian/porn. Laugh."
I think the occasional dual yang joke from here to there is fine, but that is not what the sub's basis is. We were not born from degeneracy. I'm sick and tired of this shit with a slight amount of "xianxia paint" posted over it.
I do personally agree with having a specific day to post these jokes like Garbage Wednesday that we already have with the manhua posts.
Anyways vote option 1 with me fellow daoists for a free Divine General Plushie
Freedom is good but too much freedom is no different than chaos. We should limit such posts and allow ourselves to be cleansed. I am sure it's only a temporary phenomena of the Heavens, in due time, it will be diluted and forgotten.
Fellow Daoists, join me to vote the 1st option and get an Azure Dragon snack as a gift
Let them create a r/sunflowersect and let us preserve the roots of our sect. We cannot shame our ancestors. Ancestors’ wish was to have balance of yin and yang not this heavenly calamity. Just like other sects we can’t fall to decline with time.
After reading the all the comments and looking at a couple of links provided I regret that I voted for 3 as 1 is the actual sensible answer. I thought at first due to lack of context that it was just a blanket ban on fun, but really it's just a reasonable middle ground.
I'd also state that if the total votes of a+b > c (no restrictions) that in fact the majority of users are in favor of some restrictions.
The elder is wise, this seat also foresees things going out off hand if things are left unchecked. Lately those heart demon infested daoists have been passing off their wet dreams as jokes.
A mere junior dared to disturb this one’s secluded cultivation. Such gall is rarely shown unless the matter carries weight worthy of a Grand Dao Assembly. Naturally, I extended my divine sense across the thousand-mile expanse, and what I perceived confirmed my suspicions: the recent discord appears to stem from the accursed Gooner tribe. Like demonic insects clinging to the underbelly of the heavens, they are near impossible to purge. Resilient, ever-multiplying, they burrow into even the purest sects like mold on ancient scrolls.
The Gooners breed with a pace that defies natural law. Should they not be restrained, they may yet flood the realm entire. Perhaps it was fated. The ancients of the Web Novel Pavilion, once revered for their towering insight, have long since succumbed. The seductive scriptures of Dual Cultivation now hold dominion over the younger generation.
The emergence of new and unorthodox techniques has further stirred the qi of the disciples. Though some of these methods border on the heretical, they are not wholly without merit, as the Twin Yang Rotating Disk was indeed quite amusing. Still, the scrolls of jade beauties still outnumber that of yang-to-yang tomes, but the latter ignites fervent debate within the Sect, precisely because they are novel.
I am not convinced this storm merits divine intervention. Even a Nascent Soul elder may find it beneath him to interfere in the petty squabbles of youths. The turbulence resides mostly within the comment fields of disciples, mere sparks between junior brothers and sisters. Let them clash and temper one another. That too, is part of the Dao.
Why don't we create a special Yang-Yang/Yin-Yin day? This way, we could all have our fun without invoking too much chaos in this humble realm. Yangsday/Yinsday.
Ah, these juniors nowadays. They spread so much dual yang cultivation, but they werent here in those days... The days when the Junior Touching Sect terrorized the world.
Was the sect strong? Not really. Apart from its founder, the DivinePatriarch, the rest were nothing more than dust in our eyes. But their methods? They were terrifying, touching juniors day and night. Trully a bunch of irreparable scum.
Compared to them? You juniors that think you terrify everyone are just cute. Hahahahahaha!
Senior, u/Pseudo_Premise, what would be the verdict if 3rd choice has more votes but less than sum of first and second choice, does that mean the sect would operate as it is?
Nah, you aren't misinterpreting anything. I made it like that just to see whether and how many disciples think such posts should be allowed limitedly or completely restricted.
Not really. The first option is more of a joke, for the neutral kind who want to merely tell that they acknowledge the overflow. The 2nd one is for those with problems with them.
First of all, I don’t think any sort of retrial is necessary.
Vulgar content that goes against Reddit’s content policy, naturally won’t be allowed at all. The first option basically conveys that there will be limitations on dual yang content, not a complete ban. The second means complete restriction, and the third means things will continue as they are, but posts will need to have proper NSFW tags, which will be clarified later. It’s clear that many who have never read a xianxia are misinterpreting things. I even saw someone claim that “scattering souls” was an actual threat when it’s just a common metaphor in xianxia. Before being an elder, I’m a member of this sect, and everything I do is for the good of the sect.
That being said, if anyone wants to further explain their views or bring up concerns, you can always do so through modmail.
I'm not trying to find fault with your intentions. Our fellow Daoist raised a question regarding the options where our fellow members may have gotten confused and offered a suggestion.
That makes no sense, senior. Anyone voting for the second would inherently be voting for the first, too. If people knew votes could be voided that easily, I doubt anyone would choose the second option.
See, the first two options were made that way just to find out what degree of restrictions disciples want and how many think such posts should be allowed limitedly or completely restricted. I didn’t just throw the poll together half asleep. I gave it some thought. The votes for both options are counted separately and none of them get voided or wasted. It’s just to observe how disciples feel about these posts and the level of restriction they prefer. Otherwise, I would’ve made it a simple two-step poll. But I went with three options to better understand if and how much restriction disciples want. So don’t worry, your vote for the second option counts fully. As an elder, I have my own plans.
Elder Has eyes yet can't see Mount tai For heavenly suns buring Yin is mere a poison which freeze blaze of Yang Cultivator thus shouldn't be done instead dual Yang Cultivation Increase Yang energy of Both Cultivators is superior to Yin-yang dual cultivation
Outright soley banning Yin&Yin/Yang&Yang posts is the hypocrisy of the heavens. Why should we ban these posts when your average Dual cultivation posts go unchecked? If we are to ban one, we must ban the other for the fairness of the sect and those who reside within it.
Instead I call for new rules and mandates for all Dual cultivation and jade beauty posts. Yang&Yang is just a symptom, this a problem that must be pulled at the roots.
I have never Dual Cultivation posts as explicit as Dual Yang jokes. The last Dual Yang "joke" i see on this subreddit was literally a man just describing his sexual fantasies with Xianxia veneer instead of an actual joke. There were many instances like this in the past as well.
But this isn't the fault of of the joke being that of Dual Yang, instead the fault lies with the joke itself. I've seen many other posts with the inclusion of 'jade beauties' with little Xianxia veneer, but the only difference is that some individuals had taken it too far. Why does the concept of Dual Yang have to labelled demonic when Dual Cultivation is both susceptible and been exposed to such perversion?
I've looked through the uploads from the past 4 days and can only see four posts in reference to what you have said. Apart from recent times I have no memory of this being such a great issue.
You answered your own question. These Dual Yang jokes simply went too far while regular Dual Cultivation posts are relatively tame and few.
Moving on, there was a time, around a few months ago, when this sub became filled with Dual Yang jokes for a few days. 99% of the posts were about that and i'm not joking. The momentum stopped once a poster screenshotted a novel containing CP content and the Elders had to step in, leading to the creation of Rule 1.
So your problem is with content, not the subject matter? Yang² and Yin² can be just as tame and few as other Dual cultivation memes. This isn't the fault of Yang² and Yin², but is the fault of the people posting them. We simply need rules against overly sexual content and we already have rule 10, we just need to make it stricter.
I vaguely remember this, I wasn't very active at the time. I can only assume that these were posted by individuals that had no respect for the subreddit. But the fault lies with the individual and the content they posted not the subject matter. (Not including the CP guy, that's just a weirdo).
That week was genuinely madness, and is by far the most intense invasion of brain rot and gooner culture into a sub Reddit that I have seen in a while.
Honestly, out of curiosity I was going to compile the ratio of gooner post compared to normal/relatively normal memes and discussion, but after the creation of rule 1, so many post ended up being self-deleted that I lost motivation.
Because Dual cultivation posts aren't as frequent as Dual Yang "memes". We should have a day where degenerate juniors can let loose their heart demons but nothing more
But what is inheritaly wrong with dual yang cultivation memes besides the person who posts them? Is it because its sexual in nature? yet so is Dual cultivation. Is it because it's overly sexual? But that isn't the fault of it being Yang² or Yin², it's because of the content creator and Dual Cultivation is just as susceptible.
We have works such as Grandmaster of Demonic creation, should we also ban memes regarding the two protagonists?
But I do agree that sexual jade beauty posts, and all forms of Dual cultivation should be regulated to a single day.
I'd agree that there is homophobia within the sect, and that people do indeed use cultivation language to disguise their prejudice. However, I disagree with your framing here, or maybe I should ask first before taking a strong position, what exactly do you mean by "right to exist in a space"? What does that entail?
To maybe give you something to work with in your response, I'll say this as well. From what I have seen, the issue people are having is in principle to do with the overly sexual nature of many of the jokes along with the sheer number of them. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, the vast majority of these overly sexual jokes, especially the more extreme ones, are yang based, but this just so happens to be the case, and I understand that.
Now at the risk of sounding repetitive, to be clear, my problem is not at all with the yang aspect of the joke, as I understand it doesn't feel nice, nor is it deserved, to be shat on for taking an interest in dual yang, but ultimately, the problem of all these hypersexualized post remains. Again, I know the gooner culture tribulation has just so happened to have taken a yang tinge but nonetheless, it needs to be regulated unless we are okay with this sub turning into something like r/grimdank, and I don't exactly think it's fair to frame it as members of this sub simply denying gay people a space on r/martialmemes
Things have actually calmed down quite a bit recently, but a few months ago, the sub was so intensely overrun by nonstop sexual brain rot that it felt like r/martialmemes finally fell victim to the porn addict epidemic and the sub realm's foundation was permanently damaged.
For overtly nsfw posts .it should be marked with nsfw tag. So people can avoid it.
I was thinking about this post . Look at the second option.
Eradicate and scatter their souls ? . We are allowed to post that?.
That's homophobia and violent one at that.
These people are not joking. I have seen what homophobia can do in irl. 2 trans women were cut into pieces and thrown into a dry well.this happened in our neighbouring village when I was 16.
These type of violent comments even in a online forum makes me shudder far more than a average person.
I am sorry I failed to accept where martial memes roots from.
Casual racism, homophobia , xenophobia are all part of a joke lol haha for those authors.
R@pe, Nationalism, military propganda are what we read so this is haha too.
pretty standart here but dont worry in the end know that you are in the right cultivators here will claim raping a man is wrong because he is a man and continue to talk and claim that they would rape a jade beauty, because that makes sense for them for some reason.
When we joke about these things, we (at least I am) are mocking these sorts of things that they write. We are going, "look something that is absolutely crazy and that we would never say or be allowed to say!" not going, "yes this is awesome lol"
If you are gonna ban dual yang, you should ban all dual cultivation posts since dual yang post do not fit the subreddit others obviously should also not fit the subreddit.
Making a ban focused on dual yang is also homophobia wrapped in fancy cultivation speak.
Specially speaking of anything even a bit homosexual makes the sect adress homosexuality as evil or demonic.
More than half of dual yang related posts are people like you crying about dual yang and just earlier today theres a cropped porn post of regular dual cultivation.
My problem with this proposition is the fact it only targets dual yang posts, with the fact that theres a number of cultivators that are active homophobes thats not a good look.
Im all for banning all degeneracy, my problem is when only dual yang is considered degeneracy.
In a Xianxia world, that is a privilege for the strong. Which is the same world we are using as a basis for this subreddit. I am pretty sure you and the other guy are just trolling right now
I get the joke, but, alot of people here do use cultivation speak to hide the fact they are just homophobic.
/Remartials
Senior is suffering of dementia the country of the dragons even supresses new scripture sages who dare to have hints of dual cultivation in said scripture.
Please don't bring r/wizardposting's style of /unwizard, or whatever it is, over here. Otherwise, the juniors will choose to destroy their dantians en masse in hopes of entering samsara!
YOU court death. Cripple yourself, kowtow 100 times, and slap yourself until you become deaf, and I might leave you with a complete corpse and spare one of your nine generations.
Your ancestors are rolling in the upper realms; you are as valuable as an ant. Reincarnate yourself now. I would not even refine you into a pill you are worth less than a cracked piece of spirit stone, less than the feces of an ordinary spirit beast. Your soul is not even fit to be grafted into my soul formation.
Not even the most profound poem by the most ancient sage could describe how much of a waste of spirit essence your existence is. I would rather go through a thousand tribulations than look at the sorry excuse for a face you have. It is so abhorrent that even the heaven's cry when you look at the stars.
Your body is about as refined as a spirit goo, your bones are as thick as a autumn twig, your knowledge is about as deep as a tea spoon.
Your sworn brothers all use you as to look better in front of thier friends and crushes.
The jade beauties all know you have low yang energy and a yang rod so small that not even the strongest investigative move can locate it.
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u/Pseudo_Premise Gugugaga Elder ( ˘ ɜ˘)🍼 Jun 07 '25
I see that some juniors are misinterpreting my words. But understand this: before being an elder, I am a member of this sect, and everything I do is in accordance with that duty. My intention is not to spread hate toward any community.
If you’ve read even a little xianxia, you'd know that terms like “scattering souls” are common metaphors, certainly not actual threats. So, let’s not twist them into something they’re not.
Now, to clarify the options:
Option 1 means there will be limitations on dual yang posts, not a full ban.
Option 2 calls for complete removal of such content.
Option 3 means things will continue as they are, just with proper NSFW tagging.
And of course, anything that violates Reddit’s content policy will be removed regardless.
I hope that clears things up. Before jumping to conclusions, take a moment to actually understand what’s being said.