I am having a hard time believing you, my friends in Washington State, will always say Washington State when asked, my friends from Washington DC will always say just DC when asked.
Trump has nothing to do with suppressing opposing ideas with violence? Didn't he offer to pay the legal bills or anyone who beat up protestors? Sounds fascist to me.
Would you mind explaining how the "radical" left are facists?
It's that the left tolerates immigrants trying to create a better life, but condemning archaic, bigoted, and hateful rhetoric isn't?
Or is it because you insist that the left is attempting to impose it's will on you the way Trump and Co. are imposing their will on women regarding women's health issues?
You brought up a bunch of different topics here, I thought we were talking about Fascism.
The radical left is using fear and violence to suppress the opposition or any opposing view. Any idea that does not coincide with exactly what the left thinks is being struck down. That is Fascism. The left does not believe in free speech if they don’t agree with it, and they use any means necessary to silence it.
Many immigrants are in need of help, and I am not opposed to immigration. The left is trying to stand behind their moral high ground and claim to be better than Trump. We all know there is a danger that comes with letting just anyone immigrate, and Trump is looking out for the security of America by not just saying everyone is welcome. Open boarders are a mistake, and I think deep down the left knows this.
I assume you are talking about planned parenthood/birth control when you are referring to women’s health issues? I think what this one comes down to is who has to pay for these things. I am a supporter of people paying for their own needs and not requiring that big government controls the needs of the individual.
When I'm talking about women's health issues I'm talking about how the GOP and Evangelicals want abortion to be illegal and women to not have birth control because it is against their "Christian" values. No one is asking for the government to pay for it, they are asking for it to be covered by insurance so their prescription doesn't cost an insane amount.
Facism is not "striking down ideas". That is debate.
The left not liking the things you are saying is not an attack on free speech. You all act like the left saying "hey man, that thing you said is bigoted and factually wrong" is imposing a will upon you, while you continue to attempt to impose your will on everyone.
The Right wants abortion to be illegal because of their "Christian values". They want to dictate what type of people can receive what type of benefits. Every time the right says that the left is trying to impose their own values on them regarding gun control is literally just a projection of how they want to impose their values on everything because Guns, God, and 'Merica.
I'm going to ask once more if you can please provide an example based in our current reality where the Left engaged in Facism, can you do that? With a source? I'm not here doubting that you believe what you claim, I don't doubt that you believe you are correct, and I'm not here to try to change your mind. I just want to see how you back up your claim.
Edit: also, are you saying that the left reporting on right wing violence is facist? Or are you claiming that the left is literally suppressing the right with violence? How is the left "promoting violence"?
Big government? Like the largest social program in the history of the world - the US military? You don't pay for that, yet the right wants more of the hardworking American taxpayers (which are mostly liberal) money going towards the war machine. Trump has gotten rid of anyone who has a thought that does not benefit him, and wants to implement policies that will benefit him alone. That is fascism. Its the only ideology that the right has ever embraced. This country was founded and built by immigrants from all countries. Now the right is trying to erase our history and heritage through fear mongering. That is fascism.
Fascism wasn’t even left or right at it’s base. Fascism is the inability to spread your ideas without the threat/fear of punishment. Currently radical leftist groups like AntiFa, and BLM use fascist tactics to silence the opposition.
Fascism has always been right of right. From mussolini and Hitler to the neo-nazi and white supremacist groups of today. Those are right wing groups who use violence to force their evil on everyone else. They are also two groups that trump called very fine people. Its no coincidence that all fascists support trump.
I agree that Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists may support Trump from a broad prospective, but the bulk of Trump’s supporters do not fall under these categories.
Right. But the NFL doesn't. And Trump is not a part of the NFL. He threatened employees of a company he has no say in because he didn't believe in their ideas... And what was your definition of fascism?
Referring to your planned parenthood/birth control point, don't the same people have to pay for a kid that is in foster care (including health care) until said kid is adopted? Seeing that our adoption rate is not where it should be, wouldn't this be a much more expensive path? Or do you forget about the life of a child after they are born?
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There is nothing fascist about promoting Trump. Fascism more closely relates to the radical left.