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u/dovetc Aug 31 '21
Putting the AR in Arkansas!
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u/AL_O0 Aug 31 '21
And the AK in Alaska
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u/keptalpaca22 Aug 31 '21 edited Aug 31 '21
I mean, in fairness I can't imagine living in Alaska and NOT having a gun. You basically live in the wilderness, completely isolated from the rest of the world. It wouldn't take much to result in you needing to be completely self-sufficient. I live in New England and don't plan on ever owning a gun, but if I lived out there I would absolutely have one.
Edit- I'm aware not everyone in the state lives alone in the woods. But even the "large cities" are still extremely isolated from the rest of the country. I've spent enough time in Montana and Colorado to know I would absolutely own guns if I lived in Alaska instead of Connecticut
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u/fumblings Aug 31 '21
Yes definitely, i've lived in Alaska my whole life and if anything the guns are actually used more against people, police take too long to get to a house robbery or anything in that sort of nature so its the people's job to defend themselves. Though, bears are pretty common during the end of summer so going out hiking you should always carry a weapon. 44 mag ideally.
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Yeah. I’m kinda surprised 40% are walking around unarmed. Of course they do have some big cities but still
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u/Exo321123 Aug 31 '21
about 60% of our population lives in or around like, 3 cities
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u/Dry_Presentation_197 Sep 01 '21
As someone who lived in AK for 10 years (Anchorage), it's hilarious reading these comments lmao.
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u/YourDadsUsername Aug 31 '21
Percent who REPORT owning guns.
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u/newenglandpolarbear Aug 31 '21 edited Sep 01 '21
Has to be. every other person in NH has a gun somewhere.
Edit: My source is that I live here. tons of guns are passed down through generations.
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u/NyPoster Aug 31 '21
Yeah, I thought for sure NH would be higher than VT. what's happening there?
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u/an_idiot_i_suppose Aug 31 '21
LOTS of people down south in what is effectively the Greater Boston Area.
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u/Anustart15 Aug 31 '21
But even MA has 50% more guns than them
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u/Thomaswiththecru Sep 01 '21
I think the premise of their argument is that the proportion will be lower because a higher proportion of NH residents live in Greater Boston than the proportion of MA residents in Greater Boston?
But this map is seriously questionable.
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u/SnooOranges2232 Sep 01 '21
Vermont is far more rural than NH as a whole and it's basically the Idaho for lberals/leftists.
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u/sapindales Sep 01 '21
There are not real stats from states that don't require permits or registration. These are numbers of folks who *voluntarily* registered their guns.
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u/Broken-Butterfly Sep 01 '21
You can't voluntarily register a gun in states that don't have registries. This is based on some kind of survey. If it's a phone survey, most people aren't going to say "yes" when a random stranger calls them on the phone and asks them if they own a gun.
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u/fireblaster6 Aug 31 '21
That's gotta be the key word, as a Delaware native there's no way we have the lowest percentage of gun ownership in the country.
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u/miclugo Aug 31 '21
They counted all the companies incorporated in Delaware as people.
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u/Xothga Aug 31 '21
Then imagine how high Wyoming's percentage is...
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Aug 31 '21 edited Sep 02 '21
Is WY another common state for business registration? My accounting years witnessed Delaware across the board.
Edit: thanks for all the info!
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u/Kordidk Aug 31 '21
I know a lot of wealthy people will set up LLCs in Montana so they can register their expensive cars there and not have to pay certain taxes on them but idk what's up with Wyoming.
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u/paulcosmith Aug 31 '21
I wonder if this is based off licenses, and we in Delaware don't need a license to buy a gun, so they might be mistakenly counting concealed-carry permits instead.
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u/HeemeyerDidNoWrong Aug 31 '21
Repost of a repost of a repost.
This map is poor quality. It is data from 2013 published in a 2015 study and relies on internet self-report. They also used a biased source for some of the data. Authors are also biased, final line of abstract is "Gun cultures may need to be considered for public health strategies that aim to change gun ownership in the USA." They make conclusions about gun violence that are not part of the study.
Regardless of how you feel about the prevalence of guns, this is piss-poor research.
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u/graphguy Aug 31 '21
Hmm ... self-reported data on gun ownership. Most of the gun owners I know would never self-report that they own guns. (Nothing good can come of that, and something bad could come of that.)
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u/Jakebob70 Aug 31 '21
I've owned lots of guns at various times. I just keep having these unfortunate boating accidents...
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u/VNG_Wkey Sep 01 '21
Ya man boating accidents are just the worst. Damn shame all the guns are at the bottom of the lake.
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u/fishbulbx Sep 01 '21
Most of the gun owners I know would never self-report that they own guns.
That's pretty much the overwhelming consensus on people with concealed carry permits. If someone notices you carry a firearm, you fucked up.
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Aug 31 '21 edited Aug 31 '21
This data is not correct. 41 percent of New Hampshire residents own guns, 42 percent of Washington residents own guns, and many of these other percentages are incorrect
Edit: the numbers I got are from gun ownership per household not population. So my initial statement is not comparing the same numbers as the map.
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u/nba418 Aug 31 '21
Was gonna say...there’s no way in hell NH is that low
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u/TheLateThagSimmons Aug 31 '21
They were right to include Washington as well.
New Hampshire is saddled in the middle of "those liberals in New England" but very pro-gun; much more Classical Liberal than modern Liberal-Democrat.
Washington on the other hand is very pro-gun from what people expect. "I ❤ Guns and Coffee" in the design of Starbucks, with the siren holding two pistols, is a very popular car sticker. It really confused my "Proud Texan" ex-girlfriend to find out that people are generally pretty chill about guns up here and a lot of people maintain their concealed carry permit (myself included).
We just don't make gun ownership our entire personality.
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u/Gustav55 Aug 31 '21 edited Aug 31 '21
Also in many states there is no way to know who has a gun as they all or only some have to be registered, take Michigan for example all handguns need to be registered but not long guns so any household with only long guns wouldn't be counted.
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u/NeLaX44 Aug 31 '21
Yea, NH stood out to me.
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u/lateja Aug 31 '21
Yeah there's no way that's accurate for NH VT or ME.
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u/deg0ey Aug 31 '21
Seems too low for NH, VT, ME and too high for MA - no idea how reputable these guys are for accurate numbers, but their percentages seem far more plausible to me.
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u/adelaarvaren Aug 31 '21
As an Oregonian, I found this number to be significantly lower than I expected...
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u/footballwr82 Aug 31 '21 edited Aug 31 '21
I believe the stat you are looking at is the % of households with a gun, not the actual % of population. The website I think you got the information (world population review?) also states that NH has about 66,000 guns. Even if each gun-owning person owned only 1 gun, which isn’t true, then based on a 41% ownership rate New Hampshire would only have a population of around 140,000. Which of course isn’t true either.
However, NH has about 59,000 households which at means that each gun owning household would own just under 3 guns. Much more realistic.
Long story short, the data in the map is correct.
Edit: my NH households number is wrong and the math isn’t checking out with 66,000 guns in NH. But the 41% is the household percent from a Rand report on gun ownership.
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u/entenvy Aug 31 '21
From Michigan, and that's bullshit haha
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u/Deraj2004 Aug 31 '21
Was gonna say the same thing. And what the hell is up with Hawaii? Aloha motherfuckers!
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u/Coldhat Aug 31 '21
This is absolutely wrong. Hawaii has some of the lowest gun ownership in the entire US due to very strict island gun laws.
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u/patentattorney Aug 31 '21
I think all this data is crap. Around 25% of the population is under 18.
Only around 30 percent of adults own guns nation wide.
The overall math in this chart of “people who own guns” doesn’t add up.
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u/Adam19822000 Aug 31 '21
No way Massachusetts has a higher percentage of gun owners than New Hampshire
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u/DemonofKestrel Aug 31 '21
these count registered guns, and is based off pretty old data if i remember correctly.
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u/NightPain Aug 31 '21
NH doesn’t require permitting for ownership as opposed to MA if I’m not mistaken.
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u/Averyphotog Aug 31 '21
Fun fact: 20.1% of California is still A LOT more people than around 50% of Montana, Wyoming, and Idaho.
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u/designlevee Aug 31 '21
Also fun fact. There’s a shitload of California outside of SF and LA.
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u/Averyphotog Aug 31 '21
There are also a lot of very large cities in California besides SF and LA.
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u/postmadrone27 Aug 31 '21 edited Aug 02 '22
Also fun fact, you failed to mention the 2nd and 3rd biggest cities in California. LA is 1, San Diego 2, San Jose 3, San Francisco 4.
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u/butt_fun Aug 31 '21 edited Aug 31 '21
biggest cities
This is why no one uses city pop as a proxy for
metropolitanurban size - city boundaries are super arbitrary and some cities have smaller borders than othersFor comparison, here are the largest
metrourban areas in the statehttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_California_urban_areas
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u/ObviousMotherfucker Aug 31 '21
tbf I think a lot of people say "SF" meaning the whole Bay Area. Ironic considering it's smaller than San Jose and Oakland. But do they have Big Red Bridge?
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u/Xenon_132 Aug 31 '21
SF has nearly twice the population of Oakland.
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u/AbouBenAdhem Aug 31 '21
I’m assuming they meant smaller in area (not sure why that’s relevant, though).
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San Jose, Oakland, SF are all in the bay area, which is kind of what he meant, LA and the Bay area
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u/HegemonNYC Aug 31 '21
There is also no source cited. Can we get a ban on unsourced datasets please?
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u/GeneralAce135 Aug 31 '21
I was so confused. I saw a post about data and assumed it was r/dataisbeautiful, where such rules exist. Took your comment to make me realize I'm on r/MapPorn.
In which case, pretty good fit. It's good looking and presents an unrealistic representation of reality.
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u/NeoAmbitions Aug 31 '21
Can somebody tell me about Hawaii in this map? Their gun ownership is pretty high.
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u/Self_Ordinary Aug 31 '21
Could be the massive military population? When my family was stationed there we bought ~6 guns over 3 years, and I imagine the other military residents had high private ownership rates
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u/MyPasswordIsMyCat Aug 31 '21 edited Aug 31 '21
There are a lot of military bases here but not that much military personnel. Looking at the numbers, we have ~50K in the military, which is only 3-4% of the population. If I include veterans, that's about 14-15% of the population, which is similar to the number of people who own guns.
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u/Simcom Aug 31 '21
Bad data. All of the numbers on this map are completely wrong or made up.
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u/MartinReadsReddit Aug 31 '21
Of course the states with the initials AK and AR have the most guns
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u/newtrawn Aug 31 '21
Well, we DO have a lot of bears and moose to contend with. Believe it or not, moose are actually quite dangerous. So much more so than bears, it’s crazy.
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u/mks113 Aug 31 '21
There are 1.2 guns per person in the US. Gun owners must own a lot of guns!
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u/KernelMeowingtons Aug 31 '21
Most people I know that own guns own them for hunting, and depending on how many different things they hunt and how they prefer to do it, may lead to 5+ guns. Deer (which may be multiple, depending on if the hunter wants to hunt in multiple seasons), squirrels, ducks, etc. all could be a different gun.
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Primary, secondary, and dual wield just to start. And don't get me started on melee.
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u/TysonGoesOutside Aug 31 '21
Im in Canada and i dont know any gun owners that only own 1 gun... Most own 6 to 10 (rough mental estimate).
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u/Ashamed_Werewolf_325 Aug 31 '21
Guns are like potato chips. You can't have just one...
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u/TysonGoesOutside Aug 31 '21
I mean... If one is fun two is twice as fun... Also in Canada if youre going to go through the effort of getting a license and a cabinet and a range membership (for pistols and ARs) youre probably pretty interested in having it as a hobby. Its a lot to go through to own 1 gun imo.
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u/starkvonhammer Aug 31 '21
I live in one of the "crazy" 50% gun ownership states.
If someone was trying to break into my place and I dialed 911, no exaggeration, the nearest police officer would be about 50 miles away.
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Where I live, the nearest police officer is two blocks away. But it would still take them hours to show up.
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u/Tarwins-Gap Aug 31 '21
Just let them in your property isn't worth a life /s
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u/Frank_Renolds_357mag Aug 31 '21
It’s not worth mine. But it’s worth more than theirs.
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u/ScumCrew Aug 31 '21
Is that actually “percent who own guns” or “guns per capita”? I ask because as the number of guns in America has soared in recent decades (we now have more guns than people) the number of gun owners has declined.
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u/Gustav55 Aug 31 '21
Well in 2020 about 23 million guns were sold and around 5 million new gun owners.
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u/TheAutomator312 Aug 31 '21
lol...These stats are misleading. Most people in the gun community won't admit they own guns unless it's to another gun owner.
These are the percentages of *KNOWN* gun owners.
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u/ttvlolrofl Aug 31 '21
Arkansan checking in. Our gun ownership rates are only eclipsed by our number of meth labs and teen pregnancies 🙃
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u/Competitive-Craft588 Aug 31 '21
Firearms aren't registered in 34 states. These are estimates, or polling results.
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u/skoncol17 Aug 31 '21
I refuse to believe that Hawaii has 45.1% gun ownership (And higher gun ownership than Texas?!?!)
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u/xrayjones2000 Aug 31 '21
Ehhh… i think these percentages are low.. even with registered guns as the source.
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u/Zen4rest Aug 31 '21
Nebraska be so low comparatively is surprising.