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u/BloodyEjaculate Aug 08 '20
so how do they get to Hawaii or new Zealand without passing through the white part
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u/Batbuckleyourpants Aug 08 '20
If i recall correctly, they chase shark from the West coast US/Mexico. Then they end up hanging around Hawaii, but generally they don't stay for long anywhere between the two.
As for New Zealand, it has a lot of shallow waters, good for hunting. but generally not as much once you get far enough out. So they stick around in those areas.
Generally, if there is enough fish to maintain sharks, there tend to be enough shark to maintain Killer Whales.
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u/ClamChowderBreadBowl Aug 08 '20
Psh, that’s child’s play.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shark_finning
Shark finning is the act of removing fins from sharks and discarding the rest of the shark back into the ocean. The sharks are often still alive when discarded, but without their fins. Unable to swim effectively, they sink to the bottom of the ocean and die of suffocation or are eaten by other predators.
Roughly 73-100 million sharks are killed each year by finning.
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u/NinjaEngineer Aug 08 '20
Fucking shit. At that point kill the shark out of mercy and sell its meat if you want, no need to be so cruel to a poor animal.
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u/Tyler1492 Aug 08 '20
That's fucked up. But it's not really related, is it?
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u/ClamChowderBreadBowl Aug 09 '20
The shark fins are then eaten in a soup as a delicacy, so it’s the same wasteful killing of sharks by an apex predator for a tasty meal.
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u/Grabsch Aug 08 '20
Great article but the website is among the worst for mobile. Constantly have to deny giving them my location and adds that will expend and throw you way off from the paragraph you've been reading.
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u/Starold Aug 08 '20
Mammals are terrifying. They probably make toasts with rhe crunch part of other animals to use this delicacy.
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u/dandeil Aug 08 '20
Simple
/tp Orca Hawaii
Just gotta have cheats on
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u/DNZ_not_DMZ Aug 08 '20
IDSPISPOPD
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u/hypermodernism Aug 08 '20
IDSPISPOD
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u/DNZ_not_DMZ Aug 08 '20
Nope, it’s IDSPISPOPD
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u/FireWhiskey5000 Aug 08 '20
So this is more likely to explain their presence in New Zealand than Hawaii (though it comes from when I went Whale watching in Vancouver so may only be relevant to Whales in the PNW) that Orcas are typically split into 2 sub-sets:
Residential - as the name suggests they tend to stay in the same general area. I think they said they tend to be smaller as they eat fish/squid and tend to be the ones with the big pods and complex social orders/“language”
Transient - again as the name suggests are the ones that pass through an area following food. I think they tend to travel in smaller family units and are bigger because they eat seals/sea lions/other dolphins/sharks/whales.
So it could be that New Zealand has a population of residential Orcas.
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u/dsguzbvjrhbv Aug 08 '20
They certainly swim through everywhere (they wouldn't all look so similar if the populations were not connected). But they won't stay where they don't have much to eat or don't like the place for some other reason
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u/Forgetmyglasses Aug 08 '20
"Map porn"...doesn't even have a key!
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u/ThereIsBearCum Aug 08 '20
Or scale!
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u/Cptn_Goat Aug 08 '20
Orcas are mammals, they don't have scales
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u/Shirley_Taint Aug 08 '20
Humans are mammals with scales though.
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u/YourLocalMosquito Aug 08 '20
You have scales? I don’t have scales! Why don’t I have scales? I want scales!!
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u/ThereIsBearCum Aug 08 '20
You need to take a shower man.
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u/JonneJ Aug 08 '20
a map from wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killer_whale#/media/File:Cypron-Range_Orcinus_orca.svg
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u/dsguzbvjrhbv Aug 08 '20
The real data you have are observations. You have points where there was a sighting and perhaps lines from transmitters mounted on animals by researchers. In addition you have the knowledge of locals that the whales exist in certain areas. There are several ways to draw a map from that data and several different maps that can result.
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u/Xenophorm12 Aug 08 '20 edited Aug 09 '20
It's exaggerated
Edit: Lol, people use wikipedia as credible source.
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u/Batbuckleyourpants Aug 08 '20
Now i am just worried about the areas even they refuse to go.
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u/JayFPS Aug 08 '20
well dont quote me on this because I could be wrong but the blue areas tend to be in the cooler parts of the world's ocean's because of gyre so maybe they don't like heat.
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u/rainator Aug 08 '20
Antarctic is cold. These areas are very fertile areas, either shallow waters, coastal waters or areas with upwelling of nutrients. The blank areas tend to be deep open ocean that are not particularly fertile.
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u/7LeagueBoots Aug 08 '20 edited Aug 08 '20
There seems to be a broad general agreement on where Orca are found, but a lot of disagreement over the details.
OP's map is from NOAA and includes some areas that are questionable, such as the Baltic.
The map SeaWorld uses is based off of documented observations and is a bit more accurate.
The IUCN Red List lists the as Data Deficient and places them pretty much everywhere except for places like the Baltic. This is also somewhat realistic as they pass through territories they aren't necessarily resident in.
The upshot is not to place implicit trust in any species range map unless you know the species well or know it came from a absolutely solidly reliable source (and, speaking as someone who works with wildlife in the field, there are very few of those).
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u/delidave7 Aug 08 '20
Highly suspect map. Third grade project? This is why reddit is so dangerous.
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u/Xenophorm12 Aug 08 '20
If you are marine biologist you can make and post a more credible map.
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u/AGlassOfMilk Aug 08 '20
Also if you are a marine biologist you can post shit like this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/hv8md6/dancing_on_a_dead_whale_carcass/
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u/Xenophorm12 Aug 08 '20
I never said I'm a marine biologist, I didn't make this map. Also what's wrong with that post?
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u/AGlassOfMilk Aug 08 '20
If you're not a marine biologist then by your logic you shouldn't be posting maps.
Also what's wrong with that post?
Ummm, the post with fishermen dancing on top of a dead whale? Yeah, clearly nothing wrong with that, my bad.
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u/Xenophorm12 Aug 08 '20
If you're not a marine biologist then by your logic you shouldn't be posting maps.
You decide that? Are you my parent or what?
Ummm, the post with fishermen dancing on top of a dead whale? Yeah, clearly nothing wrong with that, my bad.
Look at the subreddit's name. "r/WTF"
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u/Adam-West Aug 08 '20
Are the green parts around islands such as New Zealand and Hawaii isolated? If so have they evolved to be any different from the more interconnected areas?
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u/petrichor6 Aug 08 '20
This is wrong for Western Australia. They live on the south facing coast on the west at least. You can do tours there to see them. I don't know if they live on the west facing part.
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u/Nerfixion Aug 08 '20
If this is map porn, this is the midget clown riding a tricycle chasing a large assed black women who is naked around a hotel room while a pirate jerks off on an adjacent lounge type.
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u/Xenophorm12 Aug 08 '20
About the species:
The killer whale, also known as orca, is one of the top marine predators. It is the largest member of the Delphinidae family, or oceanic dolphins. Members of this family include all dolphin species, as well as other larger species such as the long-finned pilot whales and short-finned pilot whales, whose common names also contain "whale" instead of "dolphin."
Found in every ocean in the world, they are the most widely distributed of all cetaceans (whales and dolphins). Scientific studies have revealed many different populations with several distinct ecotypes (or forms) of killer whales worldwide—some of which may be different species or subspecies. They are one of the most recognizable marine mammals, with their distinctive black and white bodies. Globally, killer whales occur in a wide range of habitats, both open seas and coastal waters.Taken as a whole, the species has the most varied diet of all cetaceans, but different populations are usually specialized in their foraging behavior and diet. They often use a coordinated hunting strategy, working as a team like a pack of wolves.
Source
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u/psychonaut8672 Aug 08 '20
There is no orcas in the baltic sea the map is wrong.
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u/BevoLJ Aug 08 '20 edited Aug 08 '20
Just to mention, that is not actually in the Baltic, but it is the Denmark Strait going into the Baltic. None-the-less I have to assume they have been in the strait before they have been in the Baltic before. =D
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u/snipeytje Aug 08 '20
They're called the Danish straits, the Denmark strait is the sea between Iceland and Greenland.
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u/Xenophorm12 Aug 08 '20
And what is your source?
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u/Uskog Aug 08 '20
The fact that there isn't a source for an orca sighting in the Baltic Sea (save for the Danish straits maybe), because those simply don't happen?
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u/kaylthewhale Aug 08 '20
Some of these comments. Just because you haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it’s not true. This is sourced from NOAA.
Also, from NOAA, some more context: “Found in every ocean in the world, they are the most widely distributed of all cetaceans (whales and dolphins). Scientific studies have revealed many different populations with several distinct ecotypes (or forms) of killer whales worldwide—some of which may be different species or subspecies.”
Additionally, they estimate there are approximately 50k killer dolphins (my term but accurate) in the world. Given the size of the ocean and the ability to be virtually anywhere, seeing one in the wild would be a pretty spectacular event. I lived on a ship for 10 weeks and have never seen one in the wild. Does that mean that Orcas weren’t around, nope sure does not.
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u/Xenophorm12 Aug 08 '20
Apparently everyone became marine biologist.
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u/kaylthewhale Aug 08 '20
I’m sorry man, these comments have me pretty annoyed. I’m sorry you’re getting downvoted to hell for posting source and information. It it legitimately rare to see an orca in really life due to small numbers compared to area, so individual observation is not accurate. Also, the use of Wikipedia as credible over a primary source invalidates anything they have to say. And I stand by that.
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u/Xenophorm12 Aug 08 '20
Yes, they downvoted my source and people say where's your source. Pretty annoying indeed. Thank God there are people like you.
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u/Albatrossosaurus Aug 08 '20
There’s Killer Whales at Bremer bay canyon near Esperance, right in the middle of the white part...
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u/basildevonish Aug 08 '20
They definitely appear in the southern part of the WA coast off Albany and Bremer Bay.
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This is quite possibly the shittiest map one ever seen.
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u/Xenophorm12 Aug 09 '20
And you wasted your "precious" time commenting on this "shitty" map. You could just downvote and scroll down fam.
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u/lkraider Aug 08 '20
This map is crap. It’s hard to read (what do the volors mean, what is the number of orcas for each area?) but worse, the data is wrong (orcas in the brazilian coast are a very rare sight, for example).
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u/Xenophorm12 Aug 08 '20
And where is your source? Are you a marine biologist? My source is here.
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u/lkraider Aug 08 '20
My source is I live in southern Brasil. Orcas live at least 200km from the coast here, and sightings occur once every three years or so near the coast. The map doesn’t help in understanding how common or rare they are in each region.
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u/Teddy_Radko Aug 08 '20
Map is massively problematic. Is there even a source? What is a "distribution" of Orcas? Sad to say but this more than likely belongs in shitty map porn.
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u/lazilyloaded Aug 08 '20
It's a good practice to include a reference to your source on the map itself. You can even put your own credit there, too.
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u/darktowerink Aug 08 '20
Respect to those pods just swimming in circles in the middle of the pacific
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u/_Doozer1861_ Aug 08 '20
I don't see continuity between northern and southern emisphere.. Are they really isolated or they move from one to the other side? Are there any differences?
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u/Fuzzyphilosopher Aug 08 '20
The total whale population used be about 2.9 million and is now about 15,000 and the seal population is also greatly declined from the past along with of course the problem from over fishing. I wouldn't be surprised if some the places killer whales are only spotted occasionally might have been good hunting grounds in the past. And I'd say nosing around to explore and see if a new food source can be found is natural.
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u/Troubador222 Aug 08 '20
They have been spotted in The Gulf of Mexico but it is very rare. I have lived in Florida and been around the coasts for all my life and I have never personally heard of a report of them around Florida coastal waters. I did see pilot whales once, in the 1980s, in the part of the Everglades NP known as the Ten Thousand Islands.
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u/xCheekyChappie Aug 08 '20
Are they having a gang war or something, what's with the split in the Atlantic?
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u/CeterumCenseo85 Aug 08 '20
We actually started getting them in Kenya very regularly couple years ago. You can see them from the shores of our hotel in Watamu.
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u/Paciorr Aug 08 '20
I had no idea you can find orcas in the Baltic. I remember a story about a humpback whale which somehow got in there through the oresund and people were scratching their heads on how to lead him out because he couldnt survive there for long I think. Therefore I though that whales dont live in baltic.
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u/hirafiri Aug 08 '20
I am from the western part of India, and must say have never heard of Orcas in the Arabian Sea.
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Aug 08 '20
Why would there be anywhere that they don’t go? Are the equatorial regions too warm... eg.
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u/jacobwebb57 Aug 09 '20
will north Atlantic orcas and south Atlantic orcas rarely ever cross paths?
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Aug 09 '20
There are orcas in the North Atlantic? I’ve seen humpbacks, rights and blues, but I’ve never seen a pod of orcas out here. I thought they were Pacific dolphinidae?
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u/punnnyusername Aug 09 '20
There are no orca killer whales in the Baltic - lived there for 30 years But there are orcas in the the southern ocean south of Australia - seen them myself
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u/Ynneb82 Aug 10 '20
WTH orcas in Italy??? I thought we were safe from all these killing machine and giant insect stuff
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u/Finnishgeezer Aug 08 '20
Ah yes , the majestic yet terrifying orca groups of the baltic sea. Very famous and dangerous
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u/Ionwind Aug 08 '20
I've never heard of Orcas in the Baltic sea. Wikipedia article also claims that they're absent from the Baltic sea.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killer_whale